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Something’s Rugged in Denmark

If anyone thinks that Western Europe has not opened its eyes to the threat of militant Islam with the same degree of intensity that we ourselves have in America, they could chided and then forgiven – the question is less whether or not radical Islamists in Europe were recognized as problematical than what was to be done about them while still keeping true to foundational principals and western notions of justice.

Perhaps people who had thought so should only be lightly chided though: It seemed until lately that even Britain, our first partner in a military sense, had not quite come to grips with the Islamist viper it was nurturing to its bosom. Not that is, until after the subway attacks in London this summer ended the devil’s bargain under which the UK had allowed radical imams, often fugitives from “justice” in their native lands, to preach anti-western diatribes in urban mosques so long as the products of their passions were directed elsewhere, outside Britain. In France, large suburban areas (les zones sensibles, or “sensitive areas”) ringing the capital and other urban centers largely remain no-go areas to police and social workers, while non-assimiliating parallel societies also exist in Holland and Germany.

Where you stand on this issue depends of course on where you sit: Immigration is a social necessity for Europe, and integration can be difficult to force. Generous welfare programs make it rather easier for Western Europeans not to work than to do the necessary but unappealing maintenance tasks that first generation immigrant workers often take on gratefully. Too, the social democracies on the continent are not reproducing at a replacement rate – as more and more retirees leave the labor force, their benefits packages are being supported by fewer and fewer workers. In order to even have a prayer of maintaining the same level of services as native populations age the social democracies will require re-vitalization through immigration. Much of that immigration has come from Muslim regions like Turkey and Northern Africa, areas having social customs, mores and foundational philosophies often very much at odds with those they find in their new homes. These new people don’t always fit in – and many of them, coming as they do from deeply conservative societies and appalled by what they see as continental libertinism, don’t want to.

To maintain the social safety networks that have made life on the continent so pleasant, Europe has therefore been asked to swallow a rather greater degree of immigration without a concomitant degree of integration. This has come with significant social costs of which Europe is now keenly aware: As non-assimiliated second generation immigrants have grown into their adulthood, many of them take for granted the freedoms of the lands that gave their parents refuge, while simultaneously being acutely aware of social and income disparities as contrasted with the native population. These disparities, generated at least in part by the immigrant society’s lack of cultural assimilation, create an degree of unhealthy race- or origin-based envy which has caused some in the immigrant populations to respond to the siren’s song of religious radicalism. Radicalism offers simple, guilt-free solutions to a whole gamut complex personal issues. These combine in the proximate case with an opportunity to vengefully strike back at the perceived authors of the convert’s injustice – the Decadent West. Reports from the field say that something also there is about 72 virgins. For those thus easily swayed.

All of this is made very much worse by the fact that the host countries’ social safety nets keep immigrants from having to do much of anything about their straightened circumstances – those who are so inclined may be kept in funds just sufficient to ensure that they need not work at improving their lives, but not nearly sufficient to remain content – they form instead smoldering islands of resentment in a sea of native prosperity. These social pressures build upon themselves in a kind of reinforcing loop – in the end, the need of ostensibly egalitarian European democracies to support their comfortable ways of life threatens both that way of life itself and the underlying philosophy of egalitarianism. A dilemma.

Interesting to me is the rather direct way in which Denmark has chosen to approach the issue of non-assimilated minorities and radicalism. The queen herself used rather direct language to frame the issue last April:

(Q)uoted in a new authorised biography, (Queen Margrethe) said people had to take the “challenge” of Islam seriously.

“We have let this issue float around for too long, because we are tolerant and rather lazy,” she said.

The queen said Muslims should learn Danish properly, so they would not feel excluded from society.

In the book Margrethe, written by journalist Annelise Bistrup, the queen is quoted as voicing disapproval of “these people for whom religion is their entire life”.

Calling for opposition to radical Islam, she said: “We have to run the risk of being labelled in an unflattering way, because there are some things for which we should display no tolerance.”

All that while unravelling what was apparently a terror cell with links to Bosnian extremists, taking a hard line with religious head gear, restricting the right of entry of extremist preachers and declining the proffered opportunity to pay blood money in the case of a night club shooting:

(I)mmigration minister (Rikke Hvilshoj) rejected the idea as “medieval”.

“Nor do we trade camels in Denmark”, was Mrs Hvilshoj’s response to the idea.

For which stance Mrs Hvilshoj apparently had her house firebombed.

Color it, “pushback.”

Denmark has a rather small immigrant community so the impact of policy here may not prove much of an example for the rest of Europe either way. Even so, when taken as a whole this seems like a pretty full swing of the pendulum away from the “sin of excessive tolerance” position, at least insofar as concerns Northern Europe. What remains to be seen is how much patience is left in these non-integrated societies for the “others” on both sides. It would be a shame if a continent but lately weaned from pogroms of one sort were to embark on a new wave of blanket oppression targeted at a different minority.

It would an even greater shame if the descendants of people who left their homelands in search of the personal liberties and economic freedoms available only in the west allowed a different sort of tyranny to grow unchallenged from within their own ranks, exchanging one set of masters for another.

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8 comments to Something’s Rugged in Denmark

  • SeniorD

    Cap’n,

    If I understand you, Northern Europe’s socialized safety net requires more workers to replace the retiring labor force. At the same time, immigrants from Muslim countries are inceasing the load on the safety net, but are not significantly contributing to supporting the safety net’s weakening financial future. Apparently, these new immigrants are entering the countries, but are either reluctant or refusing to integrate into the society they have willingly entered.

    This begs two questions:

    1. Why would an ultra-conservative, obedient Muslim want to integrate into a society that, according to their religion, is too liberal and secular?

    2. Would a socialized society as found in Northern Europe be willing to become more conservative to attract Muslims to truly integrate?

    The cultural societies inherent in the ‘libertine’ Northern Europe and paleo-conservative Southwest Asian/Northern Africa are diametrically opposed to one another. The economies of Northern Europe are very attractive to impoverished immigrants. The safety net, as you point out, is only capable of maintaining a bare existance in those economies. Granted, that bare existance is sigificantly better than what they left, but the other aspects of those societies offer only temptation.

    Seems to me the problem exists on both sides of the equation.

    Is a ‘Sea Change’ underway in Europe?

  • lex

    Pretty close to my mark SeniorD – First gen immigrants did do those jobs that natives didn’t want to do, it’s some among their progeny that grew up with the benefits of western social democracy that have opted out entirely. Apart from a very few high profile imams unwelcome in their homelands, they are the ones forming a burden on the state.

    The new immigrants coming in (like their first wave predecessors) came to Europe to find a better life for themselves and their families. Better jobs, working conditions and social benefits. Although conservative (in the sense that they hold on to national traditions and religion) most weren’t radicals in any sense.

    As to your second question and conclusion, I guess that’s what we’re about to see. I suspect that rather than reforming their own societies, a more natural – and frightening – response would be some form of national xenophobia.

  • SeniorD

    Cap’n,

    We could say the same thing with the Hispanic immigration we see in this country. The big difference would be the role Imams play in the Islamic world.

    I grew up in Buffalo; city where a very large segment of the population was immigrant from Italy, Poland, Ireland and some other countries. I learned very quickly that the first gen immigrants were willing to do whatever they needed to do to give their progeny a leg up. Many second and third gen descendents warmly embraced the American dream.

    I don’t see European countries, notably Sweden, Denmark, Norway and the Baltic countries accepting immigrants as warmly as we do. Don’t get me wrong, the people I know from those countries are some of the friendliest people I know. But they can be a bit ‘obstinate’ when outsiders try to change their society.

    I fear a xenophobic reaction. In some cases, such as France, Germany, Denmark and Poland, a violent xenophobic reaction. This could get ugly.

  • oldgeek43

    What you are describing seems to me to be the “seeds of its own destruction” that every socialist scheme carries. Socialism provides a safety net that provides survival for larger and larger numbers of its members (either through reproduction or immigration). Supporting this increasing population requires a larger and larger base of productive members, but there seems to be little personal incentive to become more productive. It never ceases to amaze me that leftists, liberals, socialists, etc. continue to harp on how great an idea this is and demand that everyone jump on board with this great social experiment. As SenorD has said, it can get ugly. The problem is that those who have the power to effect reasonable change are the ones most vested in maintaining the status quo.

  • badbob

    Glad to see the Danes doing something.

    Check out what has been happening in France last couple of nights. Civil War.

    B2

  • Mark

    I received this quote the other day, it is attributed to Theodore Roosevelt and I believe shows great fore sight on imigration (Although he is speaking specifically of America, I think the same tenets apply)”In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man’s becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American… There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the Anerican flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is loyality to the American people.” If you intend, as national policy, to bring in aliens to meet temporary demands and send them home when those demands cease, that is one thing, but if they are going to become “permanent” anything short of their total assimulation into your society will require a price to be paid sooner or later. Lex I think your “right of entry” link missed the mark.

  • lex

    Thanks, Mark – fixed!

  • SeniorD

    Cap’n,

    Check out Thomas Lifson at The American Thinker. Interesting essay that touches tangentally on this topic.

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