Comments on: Big decks, and others http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/06/14/big-decks-and-others/ The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy! Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:46:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: sid http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/06/14/big-decks-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-8147 sid Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:21:54 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/06/14/big-decks-and-others/#comment-8147 Fixed link to pic of early ops on Pensacola Bay: http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h02000/h02243.jpg Fixed link to pic of early ops on Pensacola Bay:
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h02000/h02243.jpg

]]> By: sid http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/06/14/big-decks-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-8145 sid Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:11:28 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/06/14/big-decks-and-others/#comment-8145 Well, I couldn't leave it alone. This shot is perhaps the best example of Small deck vs. Big deck there may be and dovetails into what Theodore mentioned above: http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/040317-N-0000N-058.jpg You have to look close, but see the little blunt nosed craft off the starboard quarter of the JFK moored bow out at the pier? That is the IX-514, which plys Pensacola Bay deck qual'ing various helos from TH-57s from Whiting to Army MH-6s. The deck replicates that of a 1052(IIRC): http://www.angelfire.com/fl/crazydave/images/hlt.jpg Can't think of a bigger contrast in "decks" than the JFK and her! (and here is an acknowledgement of the gent's site from which I purloined the above pic) http://www.angelfire.com/fl/crazydave/page7A.html Anyways, this brings up a more fundamental observation. Now, more than ever, helos are taking on an ever larger part of the warfighting as fixed wing assets diminish in number. However, the Rotor Heads have never been able to fully shake the vague sense that they were all as peculiar as the Mickey Rooney character in "The Bridges At To-Ko-Ri" Reading this interview here: http://www.aviationtoday.com/reports/natham.htm I see that is finally changing and they are now being accorded full Warrior status. While one may argue the demise of carrier borne fixed wing ASW is not the right way to go, finally giving the helo drivers their just due is a Good Thing. And a couple of historical notes. P-cola bay is one of the Finest in the World and the navy has used it for flight ops from the very beginning: http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h02000/h02243.jpghttp://www.aviationtoday.com/reports/natham.htm And Michner patterned his helo driver character after this guy: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/preservation/journals/pegasus/preface.html Well, I couldn’t leave it alone. This shot is perhaps the best example of Small deck vs. Big deck there may be and dovetails into what Theodore mentioned above:

http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/040317-N-0000N-058.jpg

You have to look close, but see the little blunt nosed craft off the starboard quarter of the JFK moored bow out at the pier?

That is the IX-514, which plys Pensacola Bay deck qual’ing various helos from TH-57s from Whiting to Army MH-6s. The deck replicates that of a 1052(IIRC):

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/crazydave/images/hlt.jpg

Can’t think of a bigger contrast in “decks” than the JFK and her!

(and here is an acknowledgement of the gent’s site from which I purloined the above pic)
http://www.angelfire.com/fl/crazydave/page7A.html

Anyways, this brings up a more fundamental observation.
Now, more than ever, helos are taking on an ever larger part of the warfighting as fixed wing assets diminish in number. However, the Rotor Heads have never been able to fully shake the vague sense that they were all as peculiar as the Mickey Rooney character in “The Bridges At To-Ko-Ri”

Reading this interview here:
http://www.aviationtoday.com/reports/natham.htm

I see that is finally changing and they are now being accorded full Warrior status. While one may argue the demise of carrier borne fixed wing ASW is not the right way to go, finally giving the helo drivers their just due is a Good Thing.

And a couple of historical notes. P-cola bay is one of the Finest in the World and the navy has used it for flight ops from the very beginning:

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h02000/h02243.jpghttp://www.aviationtoday.com/reports/natham.htm

And Michner patterned his helo driver character after this guy:

http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/preservation/journals/pegasus/preface.html

]]> By: Glenn Cassel, AMH1(AW) Retired http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/06/14/big-decks-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-8122 Glenn Cassel, AMH1(AW) Retired Fri, 16 Jun 2006 03:11:55 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/06/14/big-decks-and-others/#comment-8122 Served in Independence, Ranger, Kitty Hawk, Nimitz and George Washington. Nice shot. Anchors Aweigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Served in Independence, Ranger, Kitty Hawk, Nimitz and George Washington. Nice shot. Anchors Aweigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

]]> By: badbob http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/06/14/big-decks-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-8093 badbob Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:38:57 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/06/14/big-decks-and-others/#comment-8093 Sid, Roger that. Mea culpa. I took the bigger jets to be Intruders and went on...single track mind I reckon. With the detail I can see the old the old nuclear attack-centric CVAs. Attack whales and Vigi's as discussed. Cool. Just the thing for Quemoy-Matsu and the Cuban missile crisis, eh? Sara & Indy have a nominal 40 F/A aircraft on the roof with more below. Were they ~75 aircraft airwings then Sid? No JDAM, but then again, a 20 kiloton silver bullet doesn't require accuracy to single digit meters! B2 B2 Sid,

Roger that. Mea culpa. I took the bigger jets to be Intruders and went on…single track mind I reckon.

With the detail I can see the old the old nuclear attack-centric CVAs. Attack whales and Vigi’s as discussed. Cool. Just the thing for Quemoy-Matsu and the Cuban missile crisis, eh?

Sara & Indy have a nominal 40 F/A aircraft on the roof with more below. Were they ~75 aircraft airwings then Sid? No JDAM, but then again, a 20 kiloton silver bullet doesn’t require accuracy to single digit meters!

B2

B2

]]> By: sid http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/06/14/big-decks-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-8077 sid Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:46:13 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/06/14/big-decks-and-others/#comment-8077 And oh yeah. While the Intrepid was redesignated as a CVS, she was used in Vietnam as a "limited attack carrier". And oh yeah. While the Intrepid was redesignated as a CVS, she was used in Vietnam as a “limited attack carrier”.

]]> By: sid http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/06/14/big-decks-and-others/comment-page-1/#comment-8076 sid Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:35:28 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/06/14/big-decks-and-others/#comment-8076 "I did make the 75th anniversary party in P-Cola though. Got to meet Brooke Shields, who was still quite the thing at the time." Who knows Captain, we may have crossed wakes... And Lord knows I would still include Brooke in the Hot Babe category! “I did make the 75th anniversary party in P-Cola though. Got to meet Brooke Shields, who was still quite the thing at the time.”

Who knows Captain, we may have crossed wakes…

And Lord knows I would still include Brooke in the Hot Babe category!

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