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	<description>The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy!</description>
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		<title>By: Gain Muscle Mass and Weight Tips</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/09/06/homework-2/comment-page-1/#comment-71472</link>
		<dc:creator>Gain Muscle Mass and Weight Tips</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: badbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>badbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote an entry and then lost it!

Nice analysis Lex. I would only add to remember that mixing legal opinions and the facts based on inquiry. Your appraisal rightfully assigns blame for both sides. Check this document for that inquiry:

http://www.suu.edu/faculty/christensend/beacha-1.pdf#search=%22navy%20a-12%20case%20study%22

In retrospect, like you, I think the A-12 program was in the wrong place for all the right reasons to be chopped notwithstanding all the technical issues that weren&#039;t resolved at CDR (nothing insurmountable) and the schedule slide.

Personally, I wish we had chopped some heads and continued to fund the program.   Today&#039;s nominal airwing would have a different look &amp; capability...

B2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote an entry and then lost it!</p>
<p>Nice analysis Lex. I would only add to remember that mixing legal opinions and the facts based on inquiry. Your appraisal rightfully assigns blame for both sides. Check this document for that inquiry:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.suu.edu/faculty/christensend/beacha-1.pdf#search=%22navy%20a-12%20case%20study%22" rel="nofollow">http://www.suu.edu/faculty/christensend/beacha-1.pdf#search=%22navy%20a-12%20case%20study%22</a></p>
<p>In retrospect, like you, I think the A-12 program was in the wrong place for all the right reasons to be chopped notwithstanding all the technical issues that weren&#8217;t resolved at CDR (nothing insurmountable) and the schedule slide.</p>
<p>Personally, I wish we had chopped some heads and continued to fund the program.   Today&#8217;s nominal airwing would have a different look &amp; capability&#8230;</p>
<p>B2</p>
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		<title>By: Nose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know much about aquisition programs, don&#039;t know nothin about contract law but I know this- in the mid 90&#039;s, I was working at LSO school and some Gubmint lawyers came by, had us sign lots of papers, and briefed us on the mobility aspects of the program (basicially, what it&#039;s preformance was going to be around the carrier.)  After looking at the specs, we all giggled a little, then laughed, then guffawed.  The lawyers said &quot;Thanks very much,&quot;  Packed up and left.

Cancellation might have hurt Naval Aviation, but I&#039;m not sure buying into that luh-suh wouldn&#039;t have hurt more.

Look at the other aviation programs that we have bought into in the past 20 years - not sure they were really what we needed, but they are what we&#039;ve got!  (Throws that gernade into the conversation and then backs out quietly and waits - hoping B2 or another Grumman loyalist weighs in...)

Nost</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know much about aquisition programs, don&#8217;t know nothin about contract law but I know this- in the mid 90&#8242;s, I was working at LSO school and some Gubmint lawyers came by, had us sign lots of papers, and briefed us on the mobility aspects of the program (basicially, what it&#8217;s preformance was going to be around the carrier.)  After looking at the specs, we all giggled a little, then laughed, then guffawed.  The lawyers said &#8220;Thanks very much,&#8221;  Packed up and left.</p>
<p>Cancellation might have hurt Naval Aviation, but I&#8217;m not sure buying into that luh-suh wouldn&#8217;t have hurt more.</p>
<p>Look at the other aviation programs that we have bought into in the past 20 years &#8211; not sure they were really what we needed, but they are what we&#8217;ve got!  (Throws that gernade into the conversation and then backs out quietly and waits &#8211; hoping B2 or another Grumman loyalist weighs in&#8230;)</p>
<p>Nost</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lex,

There is a half way decent book written by a former Pentagon insider about the A-12 fiasco. It is called &quot;The $5 Billion Dollar Misunderstanding: The collapse of the Navy&#039;s A-12 Stealth Bomber Project&quot; by James P. Stevenson. He is pretty critical of how the whole operation was mis managed and mentions in pretty good details of some of the laws, regulations, and just general mistakes made by those inside the 5-sided wind tunnel and over at Cyrstal City with trying to get a stealth aircraft project started with the Navy. 
Some of the things he mentions is how the Navy was still funding an R&amp;D project that hadn&#039;t fully meet its R&amp;D goals yet before rushing head long into low rate inital production, how by General Dynamics and Northrup/Grumman were forced to re-invent the wheel with regards to a flying wing since the USAF was unwilling to share thier lessons learned with the B-2A project, how the Navy hid its failures to meet major acqusition milestone reporting to congress under the guise of &quot;National Securtity&quot;. 
This book was written in 2000 so it was written before the final set of court cases was decided. Also if you do read this, understand that the author had a minor axe to grind with some of the politicos over at the 5-sided wind tunnel that forced him out of a job after blowing the whistle on the F-16 and F-18 and B-1B projects. So for a few people like the under SecDef for Acqustion under Weinberger he doesn&#039;t really paint in a good light. 

This whole project in my opinion did more to put a dent into the Naval Aviation budget. Since it was an example used by the anti-defense politicos of fraud/waste/abuse of taxpayer moneys and a good reason to cut back on the defense department budget. We are paying dividends because of this, on top of this project is what has keep people from doing more then debate and draft ideas for requirements on what to replace other aircraft such as the C-2A, E-2C, S-3, ES-3A, etc on the carrier decks.

I feel sorry for a few of the mid-level folks that were caught up in this project and now have a tarnished repudation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lex,</p>
<p>There is a half way decent book written by a former Pentagon insider about the A-12 fiasco. It is called &#8220;The $5 Billion Dollar Misunderstanding: The collapse of the Navy&#8217;s A-12 Stealth Bomber Project&#8221; by James P. Stevenson. He is pretty critical of how the whole operation was mis managed and mentions in pretty good details of some of the laws, regulations, and just general mistakes made by those inside the 5-sided wind tunnel and over at Cyrstal City with trying to get a stealth aircraft project started with the Navy.<br />
Some of the things he mentions is how the Navy was still funding an R&amp;D project that hadn&#8217;t fully meet its R&amp;D goals yet before rushing head long into low rate inital production, how by General Dynamics and Northrup/Grumman were forced to re-invent the wheel with regards to a flying wing since the USAF was unwilling to share thier lessons learned with the B-2A project, how the Navy hid its failures to meet major acqusition milestone reporting to congress under the guise of &#8220;National Securtity&#8221;.<br />
This book was written in 2000 so it was written before the final set of court cases was decided. Also if you do read this, understand that the author had a minor axe to grind with some of the politicos over at the 5-sided wind tunnel that forced him out of a job after blowing the whistle on the F-16 and F-18 and B-1B projects. So for a few people like the under SecDef for Acqustion under Weinberger he doesn&#8217;t really paint in a good light. </p>
<p>This whole project in my opinion did more to put a dent into the Naval Aviation budget. Since it was an example used by the anti-defense politicos of fraud/waste/abuse of taxpayer moneys and a good reason to cut back on the defense department budget. We are paying dividends because of this, on top of this project is what has keep people from doing more then debate and draft ideas for requirements on what to replace other aircraft such as the C-2A, E-2C, S-3, ES-3A, etc on the carrier decks.</p>
<p>I feel sorry for a few of the mid-level folks that were caught up in this project and now have a tarnished repudation.</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just think how good it would be if the A6F had been bought instead. Good gas mileage, bomb load and an NFO in the right seat. ( Something every pilot needs! :-)   )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just think how good it would be if the A6F had been bought instead. Good gas mileage, bomb load and an NFO in the right seat. ( Something every pilot needs! <img src='http://www.neptunuslex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />    )</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember being in the 4-week fire-hose PM course in DC back in 1993 when I first checked into NAVAIRSYSCOM. The A-12 program was being picked apart in the classes as the classic example of how not to control your project. I don&#039;t remember a lot of details about it any more, but I clearly remember the sick feeling I got when I learned how far the contractor had gone in making it appear like something was really being built, and how poor the government oversite was. If you&#039;re studying it in depth I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll get the same sick feeling. What a waste.

And I agree with SJS on the impact the A-12 had on Naval Air - budget battles for the E2 program were fierce in the days I was there. Watching the A6 die and seeing that the F14 struggle was disheartening to say the least. By the time I left it was all F18 all the time. I felt the tac towards a single multi-mission platform was narrow-minded, but the A-12 seemed to have forced that on us. Oh, and the political fallout from Tailhook at that time didn&#039;t help either. Tough times, those were...

Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember being in the 4-week fire-hose PM course in DC back in 1993 when I first checked into NAVAIRSYSCOM. The A-12 program was being picked apart in the classes as the classic example of how not to control your project. I don&#8217;t remember a lot of details about it any more, but I clearly remember the sick feeling I got when I learned how far the contractor had gone in making it appear like something was really being built, and how poor the government oversite was. If you&#8217;re studying it in depth I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll get the same sick feeling. What a waste.</p>
<p>And I agree with SJS on the impact the A-12 had on Naval Air &#8211; budget battles for the E2 program were fierce in the days I was there. Watching the A6 die and seeing that the F14 struggle was disheartening to say the least. By the time I left it was all F18 all the time. I felt the tac towards a single multi-mission platform was narrow-minded, but the A-12 seemed to have forced that on us. Oh, and the political fallout from Tailhook at that time didn&#8217;t help either. Tough times, those were&#8230;</p>
<p>Brian</p>
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