Comments on: Little not enough air?

By: badbob

badbob — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:24:58 +0000

Agree w/Zane. Hard for me to tell what kind of CAS is being supported here. Close ground combat means different things. “Perimeter and compound” doesn’t sound like SOF were involved to me…

CAS in a response role is different. Snakeaters shouldn’t need CAS except as cover for an exfil or a mission gone sour. In that case I would imagine you’d take what you get. So it all comes down to how good you can control the aircraft or describe the enemy disposition.

Thats where knowing the capability of the CAS platform and what type weps deliver he/she has is paramount…A UK Harrier with iron bombs and Aden is all visual. Just like WWII…

By: Snake Eater

Snake Eater — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:08:15 +0000

Zane, You are right…”…in most cases when the aviators are called in, the snake eaters are facing a serious problem…”…. mission compromised time to fight it out or run(esacpe and evade,as the manuals say). The presence of any friendly air asset, be it chopper or fast mover, is most welcome especially the slick(transport) choppers that will hopefully haul your woe-be-gone ass out of indian country. Best

By: Ima Fake

Ima Fake — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:30:55 +0000

A “dog’s breakfast” would be a buch of slop in a bowl. If a “dog’s nighmare” is when the legs are twiching, it does not seem too bad. Do dogs dream in color?

By: Snake Eater

Snake Eater — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:11:29 +0000

Bomber Guy, CAS is always a very “dicey business” and can take on nightmarish qualities especally when your the dog soldier/jarhead on the benefitting and or receiveing end. Best

PS,”All girl” F-14/Harrier crews…no problem here, just don’t shoot me up on a CAS mission.

By: Zane

Zane — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:44:44 +0000

I would think the number of Canadians and US Marines killed by the USAF and its auxiliaries in recent years would have the major thinking carefully, because sometimes you get what you wish for. I know a “snake eater,” AF type, who rages at his service brethren because they’ve killed far more of his men just flying into obstacles like mountains, clearly marked on charts, than the enemy ever has. But when they weigh out murderous f***-ups in combat versus what air support gives them, the balance is still overwhelmingly in favor of having the air support and taking the risk of blue-on-blue, because in most cases when the aviators are called in, the snake eaters are facing a serious problem, pretty much a certain casualties versus possible casualties calculus. For all the major is justified in his complaint, he didn’t ask to cancel the air support.

By: SGT Jeff (USAR)

SGT Jeff (USAR) — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:01:58 +0000

“A Dogs Something” seems to be a very British slang for “bad.”

I’ve heard “A dogs breakfast” used to describe a situation that fits the definition of “adventure” – someone far away having a very bad time.