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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Bout time</title>
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	<description>The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy!</description>
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		<title>By: Byron Audler</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/10/01/bout-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17785</link>
		<dc:creator>Byron Audler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 22:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son-in-law will be at that party, Justthisguy ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son-in-law will be at that party, Justthisguy <img src='http://www.neptunuslex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Justthisguy</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/10/01/bout-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17745</link>
		<dc:creator>Justthisguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 04:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody here who was around when she was new and shiny? Just askin&#039;.

I think of a (very) unofficial website I&#039;ve looked at from time to time, owned by a guy who used to manage some of the neutron-emitting parts of USS Enterprise.  

That ship is going to be de-commissioned in a few years.  

I imagine they&#039;ll have a party. Think of everybody who ever served aboard her, since nineteen-sixty-something, showing up for that party.

I would like to observe that party, from a safe distance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody here who was around when she was new and shiny? Just askin&#8217;.</p>
<p>I think of a (very) unofficial website I&#8217;ve looked at from time to time, owned by a guy who used to manage some of the neutron-emitting parts of USS Enterprise.  </p>
<p>That ship is going to be de-commissioned in a few years.  </p>
<p>I imagine they&#8217;ll have a party. Think of everybody who ever served aboard her, since nineteen-sixty-something, showing up for that party.</p>
<p>I would like to observe that party, from a safe distance.</p>
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		<title>By: Byron Audler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Byron Audler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 22:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, I feel your pain. I really, really hate it when I have to work a decom. It&#039;s like putting a round in your dogs head. I&#039;m a dino myself, having started this way of life in 1971, and I love building and repairing ships. I could have done a lot of things, but this is what I love. I understand, on a gut level, that a ship is a living thing, unlike any aircraft, or train, or motor vehicle. There is a REASON why they are called &quot;she&quot;. But the Kennedy is not the same ship you remember, not at all.

Re the Philly Mafia: I hear you. Was a good thing when they closed that hellhole. I talked to guys that had to go up to Philly to finish the Kennedy ESRA, such as it was, because as soon as the civil service yard workers found out the yard was closing after the Kennedy left, they just clocked in, sat around, played cards, and didn&#039;t hit a lick at a snake. I got no respect for people like that, and they are NOT craftsmen. It&#039;s not always about the money.

I&#039;m real sorry I can&#039;t feel the same way about the JFK that I did about the Sara. None of us old yardbirds are going to miss the JFK, not one bit, and you believe there is a reason for that. It&#039;s not the ship, gentlemen, it&#039;s the crew. And it&#039;s been like that for several years now. Time to put her down, and past time for it. Lastly, I&#039;d rather see a warship go down fighting, than cut up in a salvage yard like a carcass being stripped to the bones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, I feel your pain. I really, really hate it when I have to work a decom. It&#8217;s like putting a round in your dogs head. I&#8217;m a dino myself, having started this way of life in 1971, and I love building and repairing ships. I could have done a lot of things, but this is what I love. I understand, on a gut level, that a ship is a living thing, unlike any aircraft, or train, or motor vehicle. There is a REASON why they are called &#8220;she&#8221;. But the Kennedy is not the same ship you remember, not at all.</p>
<p>Re the Philly Mafia: I hear you. Was a good thing when they closed that hellhole. I talked to guys that had to go up to Philly to finish the Kennedy ESRA, such as it was, because as soon as the civil service yard workers found out the yard was closing after the Kennedy left, they just clocked in, sat around, played cards, and didn&#8217;t hit a lick at a snake. I got no respect for people like that, and they are NOT craftsmen. It&#8217;s not always about the money.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m real sorry I can&#8217;t feel the same way about the JFK that I did about the Sara. None of us old yardbirds are going to miss the JFK, not one bit, and you believe there is a reason for that. It&#8217;s not the ship, gentlemen, it&#8217;s the crew. And it&#8217;s been like that for several years now. Time to put her down, and past time for it. Lastly, I&#8217;d rather see a warship go down fighting, than cut up in a salvage yard like a carcass being stripped to the bones.</p>
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		<title>By: badbob</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/10/01/bout-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17718</link>
		<dc:creator>badbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SJS,

Thanks for commiserating. You know what I&#039;m talking about..Us Dinos understand that old stuff gotta make way for new stuff but it doesn&#039;t have to be a wetting down party when an Irish wake is more appropriate!

Plus anything they save will go to NMCI or that new travel system...(I won&#039;t bring up LCS....) BFD.
;-)

re sinkex- we just did that. I know absolutely nothing official about that test but tell me, what more can we learn?

b2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SJS,</p>
<p>Thanks for commiserating. You know what I&#8217;m talking about..Us Dinos understand that old stuff gotta make way for new stuff but it doesn&#8217;t have to be a wetting down party when an Irish wake is more appropriate!</p>
<p>Plus anything they save will go to NMCI or that new travel system&#8230;(I won&#8217;t bring up LCS&#8230;.) BFD.<br />
 <img src='http://www.neptunuslex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>re sinkex- we just did that. I know absolutely nothing official about that test but tell me, what more can we learn?</p>
<p>b2</p>
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		<title>By: Steeljaw Scribe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steeljaw Scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 15:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, I watched in agony over the course of months as &quot;The Ageless Warrior&quot; (Coral Sea) was reduced to scraps in the boneyard on the south branch of the Elizabeth River.  I don&#039;t want to see JFK reduced to that.  If museum isn&#039;t an option, then a sinkex where, like America, we can learn something that will ensure survivability for the next generation of carriers will certainly be a final and fitting end to her service.

B2 -- Empathize w/you.  As one who has participated in way too many disestablishments/ decomms over the past decade plus (including taking my squadron to shuttered doors), I don&#039;t take enjoyment or demonstrate glee in the passing of an organization or ship.  For me, it has been too personal to do so... 
-SJS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, I watched in agony over the course of months as &#8220;The Ageless Warrior&#8221; (Coral Sea) was reduced to scraps in the boneyard on the south branch of the Elizabeth River.  I don&#8217;t want to see JFK reduced to that.  If museum isn&#8217;t an option, then a sinkex where, like America, we can learn something that will ensure survivability for the next generation of carriers will certainly be a final and fitting end to her service.</p>
<p>B2 &#8212; Empathize w/you.  As one who has participated in way too many disestablishments/ decomms over the past decade plus (including taking my squadron to shuttered doors), I don&#8217;t take enjoyment or demonstrate glee in the passing of an organization or ship.  For me, it has been too personal to do so&#8230;<br />
-SJS</p>
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		<title>By: badbob</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/10/01/bout-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17690</link>
		<dc:creator>badbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Byron- look at the whole record of service NOT just the last decade is all...

Those Mafia shipyard workers in Philly should be exterminated ala Tony Soprano, I tell ya!

re Sinkex- not if I can help it...

I know what&#039;s gotta be done but I can&#039;t stand all the friggin &quot;GLEE&quot;.

B2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Byron- look at the whole record of service NOT just the last decade is all&#8230;</p>
<p>Those Mafia shipyard workers in Philly should be exterminated ala Tony Soprano, I tell ya!</p>
<p>re Sinkex- not if I can help it&#8230;</p>
<p>I know what&#8217;s gotta be done but I can&#8217;t stand all the friggin &#8220;GLEE&#8221;.</p>
<p>B2</p>
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