Thank you for pointing out how unfair Saddam’s hanging was. Next time, we’ll use an older rope. It stretches more and you’ll choke before your neck breaks.

Did I really say that? Yup.

I’m with Chap. Which one of you crazy sunzabitches is next?

Subsunk

http://tainted-in-uae.blogspot.com/

Just in case you don’t want to click through, I would like to post some of the comments (I am Westernguy):

Western Guy:
**If the US appealed the date of execution, why did they hand Saddam over to the Iraqis in the first place? Surely they must have known that he would have been executed at the first chance.

And why hand him over to be executed for killing 148 people when there were far worse other crimes that he should answer to? Was it because the Dujail killings were the only ones in which there was no assistance from other countries? Is that why this charge was trialled first, knowing that he’s receive the death penalty for it and they could get rid of him before he implicated others in the other trials?

***You mention 6 million people voted in the Iraqi elections. How many of those were Sunni in relation to Shia? Want to bet that there were more Shia voting than any other sect?

Democracy can only be successful when there are enough swing voters that will choose to vote either way with their conscience, or because they believe in a candidate, or in the values which a party is representing. This means that there have to be no other dominating factors such as a powerful religion to further divide the voting public, and sway their decisions.

****If it had been as simple as coming in and taking control of Basra for the oil shipments they would have done that for sure.

But it wasn’t about the oil supply, it was about controlling the price of the oil.

If there’s one thing that the US, Iran and Saudi Arabia have in common, it’s that they’re controlled by oil cartels. The higher the price of oil, the happier those in control will be.

The oil cartel needed to get rid of Saddam because he was causing oil prices to greatly fluctuate up and down. He would cut production or suddenly boost it, or play the UN with its oil-for-food campaign.

Saddam was controlling the oil prices and not the oil cartels. As well as that, he was selling oil in Euros, not US$, so there was another reason for the US cartels not to like it. They were pissed off!

The first thing that the US did was, through the State Department, launch a disastrous coup d’etat in Venezuela in 2003 in an attempt to gain more monopoly. They struck at the oil supply lines to stop production of oil in Venezuela, and in doing so, alienated themselves from the likes of Chavez and the Venezuelan people.

When that strike failed to get the desired result, the oil cartels pushed the US into getting into Iraq to eliminate Saddam. Who did they get to do the pressuring? Who was closest to Bush Jr? Why, Bush Snr of course, who hadn’t done the job properly in the first place!

When there is conflict anywhere in the world, we have to look past the “obvious” that’s been thrown at us (WMDs, terrorism control, unstable leaders, cruel regimes), and follow the trail to where the money is.

Nothing is done by governments, companies, organisations, cartels or similar unless there’s monetary gain or an advantageous tradeoff. Good deeds for nothing are only performed by individual human beings and philanthropists!

In most cases, the money is linked to oil or arms/weaponry deals with a sprinkling of health companies in African nations using their money to gain access to an uneducated population of guinea pigs on which to test their new medicines.

# posted by nzm : 12:02 AM, January 05, 2007

nzm – You are a complete paranoid. Take two thorzein and lie down…

# posted by westernguy : 2:17 AM, January 05, 2007

HL&H

He died before dawn Saturday in Iraq

the day Saddam was hanged shortly before dawn.

The execution took place after 6:10 in the morning outside the Green Zone

Saddam’s conviction and execution before sunrise

So I have read and read and read some more. And just for your information HL&H, All of my sunni friends who lost relatives at the hands of Saddam were glad it was all over, wether it was the right or wrong way to do it, wether it was justice or revenge, they are just glad it is over and done with.
And since the majority of muslims in Iraq are Shiia and the ruling party are also Shiia, I think it is a safe bet to say that the majority of muslims were NOT celebrating Eid on that day. If you don’t like the fact then that really is tough luck. The sooner you accept it then the sooner you can get over it. And you really do need to get over this if you plan on being a psychiatrist. If you cannot resolve these differences in your own head, how on earth are you planning on understanding what goes on in others heads? You have very dogmatic views which you should seriously address.
Do not for one second try to second guess me. I am very rarely wrong, as I do my homework. But if I am wrong, then I will admit it.
And by the way, in Balushi’s blog I did not accuse you of being a racist…I accused you of dissing the Shiia. bad bad bad move. READ before you write such nonsense.

# posted by CG : 4:56 AM, January 05, 2007

And now…

You all see why I didn’t counter a single comment initially made by WesternGuy.

WesternGuy,

I’m incredibly disappointed with your response to nzm, but believe I could say the same in response to you concerning a number of debates we’ve attempted in the past.

# posted by Tainted Female : 11:49 AM, January 05, 2007

TF – I invite you any time to point out what you perceive as my paranoia. Or, are you just playing to your core audience with this statement:
I could say the same in response to you concerning a number of debates we’ve attempted in the past.

nzm – Sorry to disappoint you but, I didn’t think your comments worthy of rebuttal. I do think you are totally paranoid but I am sorry I actually said it. I shouldn’t have. Sorry again.

# posted by westernguy : 5:31 PM, January 05, 2007

My ‘core audience’ is welcome to browse through the Secret Arabian archives, or even some of my older posts here, but they needn’t bother. You’ve shown this reality here.

Your paranoid belief’s send you on American Defense tangents that always stray from the point, no matter what you’re commenting on. Your responses are always a combination of confused questions concerning other arab/islamic things and even entirely different countries. I believe in my last debate with you concerning Iraq, you were telling me to research Sudan.

Here… for example, you’ve failed to see that I agree with capital punishment, and asked me who is at fault for Saudi Arabian executions. This is of course among other things that just seemed to go over your head.

This all stems from your pro-American paranoia as far as I’m concerned. It’s also the reason why I decided debating with you was useless and I wouldn’t waste anymore time on it.

# posted by Tainted Female : 5:57 PM, January 05, 2007

And, on and on it goes. I don’t know why I keep getting sucked in… The thing about Venezuela really struck me. Who knew that the State Dept. tried to strike the pipelines. Never mind the coup. I thought old Jimmey went down there to certify the rigged election!

My point here is that I think anyone that is willing to buy into the “western drug companies are using Africans as guinea pigs” meme is irredeamable… Remember the polio epedemic that ensued after the crazy imams told their followers not to allow their children to be innoculated because the west was secretly causing AIDS? Very hard to have a sane discussion with people that believe this type of thing.
I will say that I am sorry for my comment calling the guy paranoid. I shouldn’t have done it. I did insult him…
This is a fairly mild blog out of the U.A.E. you should check it out.

“We prefer dead martyrs to live ones.”

It’s interesting to see them trying to make the execution about America – as you said here – http://www.neptunuslex.com/2006/12/30/killing-the-beast/ – it’s not about us. Yet somehow the world will MAKE it about us, which is infuriating.

Yes I know, tilting at windmills am I.