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Wave Off, FNKUA underlined!!!
Whoa… shows a nice bit of maneuverability there, but it would have been rather icky if he’d caught a wire in the middle of that.
I dunno — distinctly recall *lots* of color on the ball courtesy the likes of A-3s and S-3s…
-SJS
Bill,
FNKUA?
Hmmm, I made up a lot of comments, I’m still working on that one!
Jeff,
Ever seen Tomcat vs. Arresting gear? Gear usually wins!
N
Lex,
Was that the LSO’s area he just banked over top of??
V5
I could get gray hair waving Tomcats. Oh, that’s right, I already have gray hair…
V5, it sure was. I can bet they had some choice things to say about it afterwards, too!
I know it must be frowned upon, if not outright forbidden, but for the pilot that has GOT to be fun.
Wow!
I was looking forward to the audio on that, though… LOL!
Seriously, would that likely have beeen a situation where there was a wave-off for a fouled deck?
I’d love to hear the recording from the cockpit…
Fuzzy,
If that was a WOFD, it was pretty late in the game.
The LSO is supposed to wave off the plane so that the hook passes 100ft over the highest obstacle in the landing area if there is a person or equipment fouling the deck.
That 100 feet goes down to 10 feet if the landing area is clear, but the deck is foul for some other reason (gear or lens not set, winds out of limits, etc)
BUT, anytime the deck goes foul after it has been clear, you hit the waveoff lights. Those are usually the ugly ones – a guy runs into the landing area or it turns out something is wrong with one of the arresting gear engines or something like that.
If no one here knows the deal on that one, I’ll try to find out what happened. Looked like pretty low vis.
Hey Lex, did you ever see the PLAT tape of Size’s Mode III “uncouple”? YOWZA!
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Nose,
Early to mid 60’s LSO write-up. Usually reserved for Viggies or F-8’s at night. “Freaking near killed us all”, but we didn’t use the term freaking…
Seems like perhaps a “Clara” “Sounds good, keep it coming” went bad. Kris, I doubt sincerely that fun was used by anyone involved in that.
Nose-
No broadband here- can’t see it. Is it a Tom going high A trolling da wires in burner?
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re “The LSO is supposed to wave off the plane so that the hook passes 100ft over the highest obstacle in the landing area if there is a person or equipment fouling the deck.”
Shiver. Except CVN-65 1998. The most egregious and unaccountable deck mishap I have ever known about in carrier aviation.
b2
Handy-wipes for all my friends!! That was UGLY and only mere inches from REALLY UGLY.
“The most egregious and unaccountable deck mishap I have ever known about in carrier aviation.”
b2 – what happened?
Badbob, could you provide a pointer or video to the mishap on The Pig? That ship has a special place in my heart. Near the cockles, actually.
– Max
Nose–
You wouldn’t happen to be an E-2C driver, would you?
Zane
Hey, at least he turned left. Many years ago on JFK a Hawkeye lost an engine in close and had guys in the tower and the bridge diving for the deck! True story.
Skippy:
And that CAPC would be the same one who was in the right seat IIRC for a dual-flameout on Ike, dribbled off the end w/one spooling back up and the other down. After the one on JFK didn’t he hang up his spurs?
- SJS
P.S. BTW, understand one of the moles came up on the ICS with a “swim call” in the midst of the flail trying to get one relit – bad form at that point and would’ve been a recepient of a flashlight smack from yours truly…
ProwlerGuy: please don’t misunderstand me. I’m not that saavy on the aviator “stuff” around here – to my uneducated eye it just looked like a cool move. Guess not – my apologies to anyone I offended in these parts.
One and the same. I think after his third time almost getting killed…he decided it was time to move on………
I can’t believe somebody in the back would say that-obviously he had no idea how close to giving his wife a 200,000 payday he was.
Looks like at least 2 flightsuits and several sets of flight deck khakis were thrown over the side instead of being sent to the ship’s laundry.
Oh, I’m pretty sure no one got offended, Kris. ProwlerGuy was seeking to inform.
See, the pilot here threw the “snap action switch” at a time in his flight where smoothness is required. He’s lucky his RO didn’t punch him out.
Bill C –
LOVE IT! Thought I knew all the good shorthand. We came up with two voice calls on Saratoga that were pretty good, but not adopted in the Standard Phraseology:
1. (For the A-6 guys) “Stuff’s falling off, keep it coming.”
2. “I said ‘A little’” (Usually preceeded by “Bolter Bolter”)
Also, PATTAFU – Pattern All Fouled Up, is officially in LSO NATOPS. I always thought that was a nice touch.
Bob, Low Vis, Low Tomcat, late waveoff, big (PNU) and a big LWD right at the ramp. LSO’s got the F-110 hair dryers that day.
Zane,
I used to was. Not any more! I’m reformed.
Do I know you?
Nose
Kris, Don’t beat yourself up on this…most of these guys have been there…maybe know of or done something like it. This video is a unsettling reminder to them of the ever present life threating danger surrounding carrier operations.
What really impressed me was how quickly an almost sure disaster was avoided by some super flying and possably a bit of luck. While on a more superficial level…my impressions of the Tomcat, as one big-assed, hulking, infernal flying machine were confirmed. Best
Nose,
I do if you were a VAW-78 guy, and CAG LSO for CVWR-20.
Reformed? What could pay better than endless CN dets?
Zane
Gee Snake,
You sound a little impressed by the aerial feats and those that make them. You feeling OK?
Zane,
That’s me.
Drop me a line. Got a good old e-mail:
vaw78mo -at- cox.net
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Nose,
One time I was -4 in a gaggle ovhd, zip lip and peaceful like, thinking my own thoughts, when the radio came to life with “familiar” voices at 200 db yelling at a Tomcat (w/old P&W engines) doing the same tailwalking routine.
As -4, I went up 500′ and came down 500′ pretty fast responding out of sympathy to that rather loud, seemingly endless, “POWER-POWER-POWER” call! Pavlov, I tells ya!
Flatlander,
re mishap: Happened just in front of “Monica’s War” and was soon forgotten…not by me though. I stick by egregious, too. Got to and scroll down to Nov 1998:
http://www.ejection-history.org.uk/CARRIERS/USS_ENTERPRISE/uss_enterprise.htm
B2
That made my heart skip, that’s for sure.
Is it possible the manouevre was inadvertant, caused by a freak gust or stalling wing drop?
Chris.
Nope.
Best.
Nose
Nose.
1.I remain more than a “little impressed”…
2.Your concern for my health is obviously disingenuous…
3.You guys are still nuts to fly those infernal flying machines…and
4.Suggest you drop the use of the exclamation “Gee” from your comments…its uber un-manly…Best
Flatlander,
I remember they showed us this video in one of my aviation classes.
Hi guys,
pretty sure that the Pilot is a former squadron mate, VQ-6 guy, transitioned to 14s upon our decom. Great guy. Good stick too. Loved flying with him, because although not a “natural” guy, he was good and worked at it. “Country” always would try to brief that in a single engine takeoff/slow cat, to stick with him and he’d fly it in ground effect. For those that don’t know, ES-3As were extremely heavy suckers and single engine rate of climb in August Persian Gulf Wx was pretty much negative. Our answer was usually “we’ll dump the stores, give you a nanosecond to say GOT IT” and then we go for a swim. Always very thorough and great guy. Had another pilot friend who had great natural ability, but it tended to get him in a little trouble due to overconfidence.
Re: FNKUA
Entered it into Google and got the following (this is no sh!t)!:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=FNKUA&btnG=Google+Search
Re: FNKUA
Entered it into Google and got the following (this is no sh!t)!:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=FNKUA&btnG=Google+Search
Google’s keeping its eye on y’all out there, that’s for sure!
B-2,
Now I remember that mishap. As I have heard it refered to it was organized mass murder. I forgot that the Prowler landed on top of the S-3……….
Egregious seems a mild word in my book.
F**kin inexcusable is there somewhere I am sure……….
Nose,
I never knew you were a Slug…..
That explains a lot.
Not just a Slug… a Fightin’ Slug!
I thought that was an oxymoron……….