Comments on: Unbalanced http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/04/17/unbalanced/ The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy! Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:39:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Michelle http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/04/17/unbalanced/comment-page-1/#comment-71126 Michelle Fri, 20 Apr 2007 02:29:56 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/04/17/unbalanced/#comment-71126 Therapist, I like the differing perspective you bring to the discussion(s). B2, I think we all belong to the W.T.F.D.I.K. Club. Question is just whether or not we realize it. Yeah, I know the <strike>Canadian</strike> guy you were referring to. As I recall I believe he had dual citizenship which was why they said they "had to" let him cross the border. So I guess we get to share the joy on that one. I must beg to differ on your self-characterization though ... perhaps sheepdog (ret) philosopher might be more apt? ICSFTH Therapist, I like the differing perspective you bring to the discussion(s).

B2, I think we all belong to the W.T.F.D.I.K. Club. Question is just whether or not we realize it. Yeah, I know the Canadian guy you were referring to. As I recall I believe he had dual citizenship which was why they said they “had to” let him cross the border. So I guess we get to share the joy on that one.
I must beg to differ on your self-characterization though … perhaps sheepdog (ret) philosopher might be more apt? ICSFTH

]]> By: Therapist1 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/04/17/unbalanced/comment-page-1/#comment-70974 Therapist1 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:52:22 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/04/17/unbalanced/#comment-70974 I believe in evil, and I make no excuses for his actions. They were wrong and effected numerous families directly and other indirectly. Having dealt with the criminally insane and seen how some of them can be full of guilt for their past actions, we cannot know until we are able to cure the illness that sometimes terrorizes them. For example, a former client of mine brutally killed his cousin while paranoid, psychotic and delusional. He spent 11 years in a hospital and was released to a residential program, and makes sure he takes medication that gives him diabetes, chronic bowel obstruction, and involuntary movements because it is the only thing that works for him and he, "feels so bad for what I've done". Clearly an evil act to stab someone 32 times, but not an evil man. Unfortunately the shooter's decision will never permit us to discover the good these other people could bring, or the person he could be. Free will is sometimes a terrible burden. I believe in evil, and I make no excuses for his actions. They were wrong and effected numerous families directly and other indirectly. Having dealt with the criminally insane and seen how some of them can be full of guilt for their past actions, we cannot know until we are able to cure the illness that sometimes terrorizes them. For example, a former client of mine brutally killed his cousin while paranoid, psychotic and delusional. He spent 11 years in a hospital and was released to a residential program, and makes sure he takes medication that gives him diabetes, chronic bowel obstruction, and involuntary movements because it is the only thing that works for him and he, “feels so bad for what I’ve done”. Clearly an evil act to stab someone 32 times, but not an evil man. Unfortunately the shooter’s decision will never permit us to discover the good these other people could bring, or the person he could be. Free will is sometimes a terrible burden.

]]> By: Kris, in New England http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/04/17/unbalanced/comment-page-1/#comment-70955 Kris, in New England Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:50:56 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/04/17/unbalanced/#comment-70955 B2 says: "...The question is. When do you suspend those civil rights? I say when you arn? B2 says: “…The question is. When do you suspend those civil rights? I say when you arn?

]]> By: Kris, in New England http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/04/17/unbalanced/comment-page-1/#comment-410015 Kris, in New England Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:50:56 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/04/17/unbalanced/#comment-410015 B2 says: "...The question is. When do you suspend those civil rights? I say when you arn’t behaving like a civilized human being..." And I couldn't agree with you more! Especially when it comes to pedophiles and those who commit any kind of sexual assault. They may be "emotionally broken" but that doesn't give them a free pass... To Lex's larger point (and in agreement with Michelle in #30 above) - I don't particularly care if your family was dysfunctional (mine was), or if you suffered as a child or even as an adult. It doesn't give you a lifelong excuse for bad judgment and behavior. And to Lex's point on another post - if you don't want to seek help to get past these experiences, if there are perceived injustices in your life that you can't reconcile, and you make the decision to end your own life - do it ALONE. B2 says: “…The question is. When do you suspend those civil rights? I say when you arn’t behaving like a civilized human being…”

And I couldn’t agree with you more! Especially when it comes to pedophiles and those who commit any kind of sexual assault. They may be “emotionally broken” but that doesn’t give them a free pass…

To Lex’s larger point (and in agreement with Michelle in #30 above) – I don’t particularly care if your family was dysfunctional (mine was), or if you suffered as a child or even as an adult. It doesn’t give you a lifelong excuse for bad judgment and behavior. And to Lex’s point on another post – if you don’t want to seek help to get past these experiences, if there are perceived injustices in your life that you can’t reconcile, and you make the decision to end your own life – do it ALONE.

]]> By: lex http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/04/17/unbalanced/comment-page-1/#comment-70950 lex Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:26:32 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/04/17/unbalanced/#comment-70950 On choices and dysfunctionals - it's amazing how many people say they couldn't control themselves, and how few have said that when they were standing next to a policeman. On choices and dysfunctionals – it’s amazing how many people say they couldn’t control themselves, and how few have said that when they were standing next to a policeman.

]]> By: badbob http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/04/17/unbalanced/comment-page-1/#comment-70930 badbob Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:52:11 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/04/17/unbalanced/#comment-70930 Michelle, Jessica's Law saga refers to the attempt to lobby the states to enact tougher laws on pedophile criminality. Even those MONSTERS have civil rights here..They being severly "broken toys" who can NEVER be reformed/cured. Never. The Canadian nut I refer to is that monster who made it from the Maritimes (N.B.?) to Massachusetts a few years back after a mass murder, who had that wild looking Mohawk and a Charlie Manson gleam... The question is. When do you suspend those civil rights? I say when you arn't behaving like a civilized human being. I can define what those limits should be, judgemnental S.O.B. that I am, but a real citizen debate without lawyers/judges, greasy politicians should define those limits. re "Not always (ever?) easy to do but that doesn? Michelle,

Jessica’s Law saga refers to the attempt to lobby the states to enact tougher laws on pedophile criminality.

Even those MONSTERS have civil rights here..They being severly “broken toys” who can NEVER be reformed/cured. Never.

The Canadian nut I refer to is that monster who made it from the Maritimes (N.B.?) to Massachusetts a few years back after a mass murder, who had that wild looking Mohawk and a Charlie Manson gleam…

The question is. When do you suspend those civil rights? I say when you arn’t behaving like a civilized human being. I can define what those limits should be, judgemnental S.O.B. that I am, but a real citizen debate without lawyers/judges, greasy politicians should define those limits.

re “Not always (ever?) easy to do but that doesn?

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