Drift, hell! I am the rudder of the thread jammed hard-over person! You guys will have to steer with the screws if I get close to the helm.

I also found the gratutious slap at the President and his administration pretty damned revolting. It amazes me that after four years and an amazing amount of evidence that there are still some people out there that don’t see Iraq as a front in the war on terror. It’s even more revolting that this apparent blindness is more due to blind partisanship than a lack of understanding the facts.

Jim C

Your thoughts were interesting and provoking. And irrelevancy and thread drift did in fact enter in, through mostly my fault than yours. But thank you. The opposing concepts we discussed are still both vitally important.

Indeed we seem to have some very shared interests, albeit from perhaps diametrically opposed positions and philosophies. Nevertheless, thanks for the thought stimulation, and the historical Roman references. Fertile ground there for us all.

Best regards ?

Your thoughts were interesting and provoking. And irrelevancy and thread drift did in fact enter in, through mostly my fault than yours. But thank you. The opposing concepts we discussed are still both vitally important.

Indeed we seem to have some very shared interests, albeit from perhaps diametrically opposed positions and philosophies. Nevertheless, thanks for the thought stimulation, and the historical Roman references. Fertile ground there for us all.

Best regards – except and until we lock horns again . . .:-)

Civilizations wax and wane throughout history – that is the order of things. No big deal, just interesting to observe.

The rest of what you wrote was nice. Enjoyed it a bit, even. Keep up the good work. But you’ll understand if I found it irrelevant to the topic at hand and have other pressing concerns that need attention.

Now if you’ll pardon me, I’m off to iron my toaster cozy…

– Max