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Who are you going to believe?Politicians committed to national defeat for narrow partisan purposes? Or your own lying eyes? The worst possible outcome for those who have prematurely declared the war in Iraq lost – even as America’s soldiers surged overseas in support of a new strategy – is that we just might win. A non-trivial possibility, according to Michael E. O 18 comments to Who are you going to believe? |
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A perfect storm for Harry Reid and crew? A hopeful Iraq op-ed, written by two critics of the war, who happen to work at America’s leading left-leaning think tank…
Unfortunately, no amount of evidence will convince the most ardent anti-war activists or reverse politicians like Reid, who has cast his lot with the anti-war left and has a vested political interest in seeing the U.S. fail in Iraq, to support the war effort.
The Democratic leadership is seen to own defeat. If they keep it up, and progress continues, extricating themselves from that perception will be the real “quagmire.”
Cap’n
I’m already on record as having an extremely low opinion of politics in general and the Socialist-Democrat Party in particular. Quite frankly, I sort of prefer them to keep beating their collective heads against a brick wall.
At least that way, my ever-shrinking wallet is safe for the time being.
re – The Democratic Party and their “…..properly losing a war” strategy.
It’s the small razor cuts that add up such as this-
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/29/AR2007072901219.html
Bastards and Bastardesses.
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Knowing this is not a popular line, I will remind all here that the Republican administration set the expectations game from the start. Namely that we would go in and be able to get out in relatively short order. Now that it is four years later the public patience is used up. That’s present on both sides of the aisle and its not just the Democrats who have been poorly led in both houses of Congress.
And that is, as I see it, the major problem here. “Victory” for the Iraqis requires a long term US troop presence-at a time that that idea is not popular at home. As far as victory or defeat goes I would submit the US won its victory when Saddam went to the gallows. We’ve accomplished what we set out to do. It will be the Iraqis winning or losing-not the US.
And people know that deep down-that inside all of this the Iraqis still are not stepping up the way they should. And no one can promise the American people when the US forces can come home. Without that promise-the anger on both sides is going to continue to build. Its more than just a simple partisan thing.
Skippy,
I think the Iraqis are stepping up, albeit slower than we’d like. But we’ve burned them once after the first Desert Storm, so it isn’t surprising that they’d be reluctant to believe us this time.
We’re finally proving to be reliable partners in routing the bad guys, and they are finally getting fed up with them too, so cooperation is the new word for the day.
I just hope that all the talk in Washington about giving up doesn’t mess up the good work our troops are doing there and cause more doubt on our resolve to help and support them.
I fully expect to have troops there for the next decade, just as we have had to have troops based all over the world for various reasons. Not a good thing, not a bad thing — just a fact.
I imagine that if I was one of the family members of the many thousands of Iraqi security forces that have died trying to secure their country – and their folks have died in far, far greater numbers than our own – I might take a little umbrage at the notion that they, as a people, aren’t “stepping up.”
It’s an almost attractive calumny, because it allows us to play Pontius Pilate when and if it all falls apart.
But history was as unkind to Pilate as it was to those he governed. And, in fact, those in whose name he governed.
Flawed biblical analogies aside, (33 CE is not the correct analogy-70 CE is) its not the umbrage of the Iraqis that any American should be concerned about. As long as the Iraqis have the yoke of Islam around their neck, their nation will continue to wallow in conflict. Iraqi umbrage is not my concern. American umbrage is.
I will caution folks again that people should not delude themselves, the clock has been ticking on the patience of the American people. Take away all the partisanship and spin, there is still deep down a frustration that “Win we stay-lose we stay”.
The President will get his wish to hand this war off to another administration. However the administration that we get in 2009 is going to be determined by American anger over Iraq.
Better explanation here.