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	<description>The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy!</description>
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		<title>By: Snake Eater</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/08/05/2664/comment-page-1/#comment-102697</link>
		<dc:creator>Snake Eater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thread... good points by most...even my new best friend Casca is an unusual position for him of being, as the Brits say, &quot;spot on&quot; re the Tommy Lee Jones/Ty Cobb movie...well worth a look...ahhh baseball as it used to be.

Suffering the effects of terminal ennui...I find it impossible to get interested let alone exercised over this Barry Bonds matter... so I won&#039;t...except to say that a desturbing number of professional athletes are morphing into side-show freaks... and I refuse to watch. 

Finally... all this baseball talk has reminded me of a uber-lame groaner of a  joke that was all the rage in my junior high school locker room in the mid-fifties...it goes like this...

&quot; I use to be a Dogger fan...but when they moved to Los Angeles I became an... Athletic supporter...&quot; da da dum...great peals of laughter followed...very different and  innocent times indeed.

Best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thread&#8230; good points by most&#8230;even my new best friend Casca is an unusual position for him of being, as the Brits say, &#8220;spot on&#8221; re the Tommy Lee Jones/Ty Cobb movie&#8230;well worth a look&#8230;ahhh baseball as it used to be.</p>
<p>Suffering the effects of terminal ennui&#8230;I find it impossible to get interested let alone exercised over this Barry Bonds matter&#8230; so I won&#8217;t&#8230;except to say that a desturbing number of professional athletes are morphing into side-show freaks&#8230; and I refuse to watch. </p>
<p>Finally&#8230; all this baseball talk has reminded me of a uber-lame groaner of a  joke that was all the rage in my junior high school locker room in the mid-fifties&#8230;it goes like this&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8221; I use to be a Dogger fan&#8230;but when they moved to Los Angeles I became an&#8230; Athletic supporter&#8230;&#8221; da da dum&#8230;great peals of laughter followed&#8230;very different and  innocent times indeed.</p>
<p>Best</p>
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		<title>By: Theodore</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/08/05/2664/comment-page-1/#comment-411452</link>
		<dc:creator>Theodore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every baseball record since World War II is a product of the performance-enhancing drug era.

I speak not of steroids - a latecomer to the performance-enhancement party - but of amphetamines.  They were introduced to the game after the war and were a far bigger part of the culture for far longer than steroids - amphetamines have been a controlled substance since 1970, but baseball outlawed them only in 2006.

I think Bonds took steroids.  I think Aaron took amphetamines.  I don&#039;t see a whole lot of difference.

It makes me glad I cover college sports, where the only scandal you have to worry about much is good old-fashioned bribery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every baseball record since World War II is a product of the performance-enhancing drug era.</p>
<p>I speak not of steroids &#8211; a latecomer to the performance-enhancement party &#8211; but of amphetamines.  They were introduced to the game after the war and were a far bigger part of the culture for far longer than steroids &#8211; amphetamines have been a controlled substance since 1970, but baseball outlawed them only in 2006.</p>
<p>I think Bonds took steroids.  I think Aaron took amphetamines.  I don&#8217;t see a whole lot of difference.</p>
<p>It makes me glad I cover college sports, where the only scandal you have to worry about much is good old-fashioned bribery.</p>
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		<title>By: FbL</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/08/05/2664/comment-page-1/#comment-102625</link>
		<dc:creator>FbL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Those comparison pics are amazing.  I knew from my own memory that he looked different, but that side-by-side is startling.

As far as A-rod, the sad thing is that he reportedly has not always been clean.  The hope among those who knew him &quot;back when&quot; is that at least he is clean &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt; and will continue to be as he goes after the record...

I recently had an interesting conversation with someone in a position to know about the sport, and he said that he believed that 95% of professional baseball players &quot;had&quot; to use steroids at some point in their careers in order to be competitive.  This was said in the context of high schoolers using steroids (I assumed it was in reference to the different rates of physical maturity in teenage years and early adulthood (up to mid-twenties).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Those comparison pics are amazing.  I knew from my own memory that he looked different, but that side-by-side is startling.</p>
<p>As far as A-rod, the sad thing is that he reportedly has not always been clean.  The hope among those who knew him &#8220;back when&#8221; is that at least he is clean <i>now</i> and will continue to be as he goes after the record&#8230;</p>
<p>I recently had an interesting conversation with someone in a position to know about the sport, and he said that he believed that 95% of professional baseball players &#8220;had&#8221; to use steroids at some point in their careers in order to be competitive.  This was said in the context of high schoolers using steroids (I assumed it was in reference to the different rates of physical maturity in teenage years and early adulthood (up to mid-twenties).</p>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/08/05/2664/comment-page-1/#comment-411454</link>
		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonds has always denied &quot;knowingly&quot; using steroids or performance enhancing drugs of any kind. It was all the fault of his trainer, see. Or that massage he got that one time.

How he developed from a lean but powerful hit and run player at Pittsburgh into the musclebound slugger he is today, is, alas, a mystery to him.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://r_harrison.tripod.com/Agonist/BarryBonds.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;*Cough*&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonds has always denied &#8220;knowingly&#8221; using steroids or performance enhancing drugs of any kind. It was all the fault of his trainer, see. Or that massage he got that one time.</p>
<p>How he developed from a lean but powerful hit and run player at Pittsburgh into the musclebound slugger he is today, is, alas, a mystery to him.</p>
<p><a href="http://r_harrison.tripod.com/Agonist/BarryBonds.jpg" rel="nofollow">*Cough*</a></p>
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		<title>By: LT Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>LT Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juxtapose the two HoF inductees last week.  Cal Ripken and Tony Gwynn.  I stopped being a fan after Cally Cal left the game.  Bonds just proved my point.  And for those that say he didn&#039;t cheat because there wasn&#039;t a rule against anabolic steroids, aren&#039;t they illegal?  I mean, murder and cocaine aren&#039;t in the rule book, but they are illegal.  If someone shot another on the field, it wouldn&#039;t be called cheating, it would be a crime.  I believe that is why the Feds are after them.  Do I have that right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juxtapose the two HoF inductees last week.  Cal Ripken and Tony Gwynn.  I stopped being a fan after Cally Cal left the game.  Bonds just proved my point.  And for those that say he didn&#8217;t cheat because there wasn&#8217;t a rule against anabolic steroids, aren&#8217;t they illegal?  I mean, murder and cocaine aren&#8217;t in the rule book, but they are illegal.  If someone shot another on the field, it wouldn&#8217;t be called cheating, it would be a crime.  I believe that is why the Feds are after them.  Do I have that right?</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skippy-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 02:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The good news is Bonds won&#039;t keep it long. A-Rod is only 31...........

I&#039;ve hated Bonds since he left the Pirates in a lurch back in 1990.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news is Bonds won&#8217;t keep it long. A-Rod is only 31&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve hated Bonds since he left the Pirates in a lurch back in 1990&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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