Comments on: General Turgidson!

By: Albany Rifles

Albany Rifles — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:58:58 +0000

“Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here! This is the War Room. ”

“Mr. President, I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed, but I do say no more then ten to twenty million killed, tops. Depending on the breaks.”

“Mr. President, we must not allow a mineshaft gap! ”

Okay, that’ s enough.

By: NSC

NSC — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:14:39 +0000

That’s one wing commander who will never make General. If he keeps his job at all.

By: Therapist1

Therapist1 — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:39:21 +0000

Great post, I love that movie!!

By: Nose

Nose — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:13:59 +0000

Just as the captain of the ship is responsible for everything that goes on on the ship, the Aircraft Commander (or whatever the USAF term is) is responsible for what is in/on his jet.

I’m thinking if I’m doing a walk-around and I see what MIGHT be an ALCM hangin on my wing or in my bomb bay, I’m gonna get within Mike K’s 6 inches and make damn sure I got what I think I got.

Mike Kozlowski: you said {Yes, the trainers are indistinguishable from the real thing (until you get about 6 inches away), and the transport crews had no reason to look.}

I’m gonna think that they DID have a reason to look. It was proved on this flight. Nobody is blameless, every single person that had anything to do with weapons on this aircraft, from the lowest airman to the knucklehead that flew it is responsible.

Nose

PS Mike, love the name. Good luck with the girl with the eyeballs in her hair…

By: Mike Kozlowski

Mike Kozlowski — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:05:11 +0000

MaxDamage -

Actually, the ordnance guys – USAF Ammo – are blameless. They were told to grab a trailer with six dummy missiles on a pylon and haul it to the flightline. They never looked to see if they were live because the trailer number was shown in Ammo Control as carrying dummy weapons. Yes, the trainers are indistinguishable from the real thing (until you get about 6 inches away), and the transport crews had no reason to look.

Mike Kozlowski

By: MaxDamage

MaxDamage — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:47:36 +0000

Well, think about it — the warhead is inside the missile, and once the thing is assembled a pilot or ordinance tech isn’t going to unscrew the thing, check the color of the weight in front, then screw it back together again. For all intents, to the flight crew a dummy and a real weapon are all the same — training has to be realistic after all.

The foul-up here was clearly with the crew doing the ordinance handling prior to it being placed aboard the aircraft.

– Max