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	<title>Comments on: Only in George W. Bush&#8217;s Amerika</title>
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	<description>The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy!</description>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/09/18/only-in-george-w-bushs-amerika/comment-page-2/#comment-413543</link>
		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason some of Tailspin&#039;s comments got sucked into a spam trap. I&#039;ve recovered them, but I&#039;m entirely too tired of the discussion to try to determine which among them, or which inside them, are inadvertant dupes and therefore edit.

Cops, jackasses and tasers. I believe that is what we were discussing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason some of Tailspin&#8217;s comments got sucked into a spam trap. I&#8217;ve recovered them, but I&#8217;m entirely too tired of the discussion to try to determine which among them, or which inside them, are inadvertant dupes and therefore edit.</p>
<p>Cops, jackasses and tasers. I believe that is what we were discussing.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterGunn</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/09/18/only-in-george-w-bushs-amerika/comment-page-2/#comment-413544</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterGunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re describing &quot;Intelligent Design&quot;, Max; the guiding hand of God the Creator, it was He who caused the elements to come together and injected them with life itself. Not the remotest of chances one molecule may meet another, perhaps an entire world apart, but Him, at work.

Your point is exactly the same my biology and chemistry profs espoused in college: God was there and created where there had been a void. 

BTW, Genesis 1:27 says, &quot;God created Man in His own image...&quot; just so you know, that&#039;s what it says. Man&#039;s form was, indeed, established by the Creator.

The time period? Unimportant! 6 days, but what is the length of God&#039;s day? No one knows.  The scripture doesn&#039;t say, nor does it fly in the face of geological or zoological science. Eons of time, millions of years, trillions of fossils; it wasn&#039;t evolution but rather all in God&#039;s time and plan.

I&#039;m just saying... as long as you asked, that&#039;s what I &quot;understand&quot;!


PS: Max, what happened to that long standing military cliche? You know the one... &quot;there aren&#039;t any athiests in foxholes.&quot; For me, the affirmation of God is a necessary trait! You know it&#039;s benefits because you use it every time you fly! It&#039;s called FAITH.

PSS: I loved your Leghorn bit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re describing &#8220;Intelligent Design&#8221;, Max; the guiding hand of God the Creator, it was He who caused the elements to come together and injected them with life itself. Not the remotest of chances one molecule may meet another, perhaps an entire world apart, but Him, at work.</p>
<p>Your point is exactly the same my biology and chemistry profs espoused in college: God was there and created where there had been a void. </p>
<p>BTW, Genesis 1:27 says, &#8220;God created Man in His own image&#8230;&#8221; just so you know, that&#8217;s what it says. Man&#8217;s form was, indeed, established by the Creator.</p>
<p>The time period? Unimportant! 6 days, but what is the length of God&#8217;s day? No one knows.  The scripture doesn&#8217;t say, nor does it fly in the face of geological or zoological science. Eons of time, millions of years, trillions of fossils; it wasn&#8217;t evolution but rather all in God&#8217;s time and plan.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just saying&#8230; as long as you asked, that&#8217;s what I &#8220;understand&#8221;!</p>
<p>PS: Max, what happened to that long standing military cliche? You know the one&#8230; &#8220;there aren&#8217;t any athiests in foxholes.&#8221; For me, the affirmation of God is a necessary trait! You know it&#8217;s benefits because you use it every time you fly! It&#8217;s called FAITH.</p>
<p>PSS: I loved your Leghorn bit!</p>
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		<title>By: MaxDamage</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/09/18/only-in-george-w-bushs-amerika/comment-page-2/#comment-413545</link>
		<dc:creator>MaxDamage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Gunn wrote: &quot;You imply that evolution is the way we came to be, whether we believe it or not, it’s just that we “don’t understand”. Pish, Posh!!! It’s a difference in our experience, training and beliefs.&quot;

Not to interject logic into this discussion, but Genesis is quite silent on the form of Man that was created, not to mention completely silent on the other animals inhabiting this mud-ball spinning about the comos, with the exception of what we believe is a snake and some vague reference to fishes.

So what?  Can anybody here read Genesis and honestly state that the Creator didn&#039;t create Man via a long evolutionary process and started the whole chain of events with a single-celled organism in that primordal ooze eons ago?

Now one might have to be A Believer to think that the planet was created in 6 days and life as we know it now existed from that time forward, and I&#039;d do nothing to dissuade you from those beliefs.  Such beliefs are harmless enough, they do not serve to interfere with my life in any way or form, in fact all in all they&#039;re only fodder because somebody else thinks them a point of ridicule.  As if believing in Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy were suddenly Important.  Doesn&#039;t matter what you&#039;ve done in this world, doesn&#039;t matter who you are, you believe in Santa?  Well, color you an idiot, and we&#039;ll ignore all that other evidence indicative to the contrary.

Which brings me back to religion, and I understand Lex is a believer.  In practical matters, all this means is that I cannot fly with him.  I do not want to fly with anybody who beleives in an after-life.  When it&#039;s engines-out, flight control only a fond memory, and ejection seats a mere wish, I want an athiest at the controls, so he knows he only has one shot...

:-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Gunn wrote: &#8220;You imply that evolution is the way we came to be, whether we believe it or not, it’s just that we “don’t understand”. Pish, Posh!!! It’s a difference in our experience, training and beliefs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not to interject logic into this discussion, but Genesis is quite silent on the form of Man that was created, not to mention completely silent on the other animals inhabiting this mud-ball spinning about the comos, with the exception of what we believe is a snake and some vague reference to fishes.</p>
<p>So what?  Can anybody here read Genesis and honestly state that the Creator didn&#8217;t create Man via a long evolutionary process and started the whole chain of events with a single-celled organism in that primordal ooze eons ago?</p>
<p>Now one might have to be A Believer to think that the planet was created in 6 days and life as we know it now existed from that time forward, and I&#8217;d do nothing to dissuade you from those beliefs.  Such beliefs are harmless enough, they do not serve to interfere with my life in any way or form, in fact all in all they&#8217;re only fodder because somebody else thinks them a point of ridicule.  As if believing in Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy were suddenly Important.  Doesn&#8217;t matter what you&#8217;ve done in this world, doesn&#8217;t matter who you are, you believe in Santa?  Well, color you an idiot, and we&#8217;ll ignore all that other evidence indicative to the contrary.</p>
<p>Which brings me back to religion, and I understand Lex is a believer.  In practical matters, all this means is that I cannot fly with him.  I do not want to fly with anybody who beleives in an after-life.  When it&#8217;s engines-out, flight control only a fond memory, and ejection seats a mere wish, I want an athiest at the controls, so he knows he only has one shot&#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.neptunuslex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tailspin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tailspin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Gunn:  &lt;blockquote&gt; . . .  saying that we just “don’t understand” is to be-little a widely held, complex and scholarly point of view.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Everything in the quote above is wrong, as matters of fact. Not sure where you&#039;re getting your information, but you&#039;d better double check your claims. ID is a view held by a very few hard core miscreants who have lied under oath about their substance-less ideas and have contributed nothing to scholarship. That&#039;s not my opinion, that easily discovered fact.

If you&#039;re interested in learning more head over to &lt;a href=&quot;http://pandasthumb.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Panda&#039;s Thumb&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Gunn:<br />
<blockquote> . . .  saying that we just “don’t understand” is to be-little a widely held, complex and scholarly point of view.</p></blockquote>
<p>Everything in the quote above is wrong, as matters of fact. Not sure where you&#8217;re getting your information, but you&#8217;d better double check your claims. ID is a view held by a very few hard core miscreants who have lied under oath about their substance-less ideas and have contributed nothing to scholarship. That&#8217;s not my opinion, that easily discovered fact.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested in learning more head over to <a href="http://pandasthumb.org" rel="nofollow">Panda&#8217;s Thumb</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: doorkeeper</title>
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		<dc:creator>doorkeeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sim, #50, they&#039;re there if you choose to look, but I stand with PeterGunn, #58 (well said, sir) on this one.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sim, #50, they&#8217;re there if you choose to look, but I stand with PeterGunn, #58 (well said, sir) on this one.<br />
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		<title>By: Bou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I&#039;ve spent too much time in Alachua County/Gainesville.  UF may have had the best football team and basketball teams and may be an outstanding university (it is), but it is still in Gainesville which is redneck like you would not believe.  I&#039;d not mess with a Gainesville cop anymore than I would mess with any other small town redneck cop.  That would go hand in hand with the campus police as well.  

Ya just... don&#039;t.  If you are smart anyway.

Second, my husband and I both watched this on the news, he having received his doctorates from said fine institution, and we both said,&quot;Wow, that seemed kind of excessive, didn&#039;t it?&quot;  I would think that going to speak at a college campus automatically lends itself to the thought you are going to get boorish behavior, over privileged children who think they are right all the time, the &#039;man&#039; is out to get him, and who think they are doing everything for the FIRST time ever... having the FIRST THOUGHT ever.  Because... you know... we&#039;ve never been in those young shoes.

I just figured that would be expected and it would be lined out already on how to handle that and I just didn&#039;t expect tazing would be in the manual.

Third, and I hate to admit this, but when I heard the play back as they&#039;re playing it on ALL our radio stations in the morning, I called my sister and laughed.  She did not laugh like I did, as I suspect she is higher on the evolutionary scale than I, but I still thought the &quot;Don&#039;t taze me, bro!  OW!    OW!&quot; was funny, in a childish black humored way.  Ow?  Heh. 

The whole thing is very gray to me.  Idiot college kid and cops in Gainesville... wish I could say it surprised me, but it did not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I&#8217;ve spent too much time in Alachua County/Gainesville.  UF may have had the best football team and basketball teams and may be an outstanding university (it is), but it is still in Gainesville which is redneck like you would not believe.  I&#8217;d not mess with a Gainesville cop anymore than I would mess with any other small town redneck cop.  That would go hand in hand with the campus police as well.  </p>
<p>Ya just&#8230; don&#8217;t.  If you are smart anyway.</p>
<p>Second, my husband and I both watched this on the news, he having received his doctorates from said fine institution, and we both said,&#8221;Wow, that seemed kind of excessive, didn&#8217;t it?&#8221;  I would think that going to speak at a college campus automatically lends itself to the thought you are going to get boorish behavior, over privileged children who think they are right all the time, the &#8216;man&#8217; is out to get him, and who think they are doing everything for the FIRST time ever&#8230; having the FIRST THOUGHT ever.  Because&#8230; you know&#8230; we&#8217;ve never been in those young shoes.</p>
<p>I just figured that would be expected and it would be lined out already on how to handle that and I just didn&#8217;t expect tazing would be in the manual.</p>
<p>Third, and I hate to admit this, but when I heard the play back as they&#8217;re playing it on ALL our radio stations in the morning, I called my sister and laughed.  She did not laugh like I did, as I suspect she is higher on the evolutionary scale than I, but I still thought the &#8220;Don&#8217;t taze me, bro!  OW!    OW!&#8221; was funny, in a childish black humored way.  Ow?  Heh. </p>
<p>The whole thing is very gray to me.  Idiot college kid and cops in Gainesville&#8230; wish I could say it surprised me, but it did not.</p>
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