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	<description>The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy!</description>
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		<title>By: badbob</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/10/17/small-world-2/comment-page-1/#comment-415409</link>
		<dc:creator>badbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right fbl, the USMC naval air auxiliary assisted that effort NOT the USN (thank &#039;em at Miramar for me).....On the other hand, some folks are Naval Aviation teammates ONLY when they get white knuckles &quot;in the barrel&quot;,  like in that story the exGriffoon  and Lex wrote about that sandstorm.....

As far as the &quot;significant naval target&quot; and &quot;warranting attention&quot;- I simply don&#039;t know and don&#039;t need to know - I just saw pics.  I just brought it up as a fond memory Lex surfaced in me and I simply gave the deep-sixed Griffoons their due...Only fittinn me being the sentimental type. ;-).

As far as the the rest of it, and references to 650 nm diverts, are best left to insiders who will have to confront &#039;the reality&#039; IF they are still on AD (hopefully not on the road...),  or more likely, spin, mitigate and risk manage the &quot;shortcomings&quot; all resulting in a loss of &quot;capabiltity&quot;....Lex wouldn&#039;t do that o&#039;course but others? Unfortunetly, gladly and believe every word they write or speak...

Do I dwell on this to resurrect the nearly dead Viking or artificial reef Intruder?...not a chance.

I only do it to show Naval Aviation &quot;Paradise Lost&quot;.  I detest a bright shining lie and doublespeak, even if it&#039;s a relatively small one compared to other USN buffoonery-like shipbuilding...Sure I could take all this to &quot;Proceedings&quot; and be tedious but even I know when to quit (plus it ain&#039;t good for my day job...Hornet Sharia and all). 

Some forms of &#039;institutional mendacity&#039; (tm) are simply too big to overcome.  Someday!  On Pancho!

b2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right fbl, the USMC naval air auxiliary assisted that effort NOT the USN (thank &#8216;em at Miramar for me)&#8230;..On the other hand, some folks are Naval Aviation teammates ONLY when they get white knuckles &#8220;in the barrel&#8221;,  like in that story the exGriffoon  and Lex wrote about that sandstorm&#8230;..</p>
<p>As far as the &#8220;significant naval target&#8221; and &#8220;warranting attention&#8221;- I simply don&#8217;t know and don&#8217;t need to know &#8211; I just saw pics.  I just brought it up as a fond memory Lex surfaced in me and I simply gave the deep-sixed Griffoons their due&#8230;Only fittinn me being the sentimental type. <img src='http://www.neptunuslex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>As far as the the rest of it, and references to 650 nm diverts, are best left to insiders who will have to confront &#8216;the reality&#8217; IF they are still on AD (hopefully not on the road&#8230;),  or more likely, spin, mitigate and risk manage the &#8220;shortcomings&#8221; all resulting in a loss of &#8220;capabiltity&#8221;&#8230;.Lex wouldn&#8217;t do that o&#8217;course but others? Unfortunetly, gladly and believe every word they write or speak&#8230;</p>
<p>Do I dwell on this to resurrect the nearly dead Viking or artificial reef Intruder?&#8230;not a chance.</p>
<p>I only do it to show Naval Aviation &#8220;Paradise Lost&#8221;.  I detest a bright shining lie and doublespeak, even if it&#8217;s a relatively small one compared to other USN buffoonery-like shipbuilding&#8230;Sure I could take all this to &#8220;Proceedings&#8221; and be tedious but even I know when to quit (plus it ain&#8217;t good for my day job&#8230;Hornet Sharia and all). </p>
<p>Some forms of &#8216;institutional mendacity&#8217; &#8482; are simply too big to overcome.  Someday!  On Pancho!</p>
<p>b2</p>
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		<title>By: FbL</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/10/17/small-world-2/comment-page-1/#comment-415408</link>
		<dc:creator>FbL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 03:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B2, I understood your references to OPSO and &quot;lucky.&quot;

Lex was kind of enough to enlighten me on the rest.  Yes, I know who would likely own a yacht.  I was just confused by trying to figure out why it would warrant the kind of mention it got in news stories.

And if I understood correctly, the Griffoons weren&#039;t solely responsible.  :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B2, I understood your references to OPSO and &#8220;lucky.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lex was kind of enough to enlighten me on the rest.  Yes, I know who would likely own a yacht.  I was just confused by trying to figure out why it would warrant the kind of mention it got in news stories.</p>
<p>And if I understood correctly, the Griffoons weren&#8217;t solely responsible.  <img src='http://www.neptunuslex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: badbob</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/10/17/small-world-2/comment-page-1/#comment-415407</link>
		<dc:creator>badbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fbl,

Every S-3 on that ship during OIF was on the roof most days because operations demanded they be. 30 sorties a day for a ten plane squadron is a lot. For an 8 plane squadron- a real lot.

Having enough gas in the air is the Operations dept responsibility led by the Operations Officer.

Therefore the Operations Officer was lucky to have S-3&#039;s is all...

If that&#039;s windmills sobeit! And yes, my simple mind hasn&#039;t forgotten the &quot;Story of the 650 mile Divert&quot;. Can&#039;t wait to read the spin....

Look Pancho, another Knight!

Re that &quot;ship&quot; sunk/damaged. How many folks in Iraq in 2003 could own a yacht that could also be a ship? Geez.

Pogo.

b2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fbl,</p>
<p>Every S-3 on that ship during OIF was on the roof most days because operations demanded they be. 30 sorties a day for a ten plane squadron is a lot. For an 8 plane squadron- a real lot.</p>
<p>Having enough gas in the air is the Operations dept responsibility led by the Operations Officer.</p>
<p>Therefore the Operations Officer was lucky to have S-3&#8242;s is all&#8230;</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s windmills sobeit! And yes, my simple mind hasn&#8217;t forgotten the &#8220;Story of the 650 mile Divert&#8221;. Can&#8217;t wait to read the spin&#8230;.</p>
<p>Look Pancho, another Knight!</p>
<p>Re that &#8220;ship&#8221; sunk/damaged. How many folks in Iraq in 2003 could own a yacht that could also be a ship? Geez.</p>
<p>Pogo.</p>
<p>b2</p>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I have windmills of my own to tilt against. I don&#039;t begrudge any man his ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I have windmills of my own to tilt against. I don&#8217;t begrudge any man his <img src='http://www.neptunuslex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: FbL</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/10/17/small-world-2/comment-page-1/#comment-415405</link>
		<dc:creator>FbL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw this (catching up on reading comments)...

B2, you&#039;re a tease to hang all that out there without giving the details.  :P  And Lex showed an irritating amount of restraint by not replying, too.

*flouncing off in a huff*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw this (catching up on reading comments)&#8230;</p>
<p>B2, you&#8217;re a tease to hang all that out there without giving the details.  <img src='http://www.neptunuslex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />   And Lex showed an irritating amount of restraint by not replying, too.</p>
<p>*flouncing off in a huff*</p>
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		<title>By: badbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>badbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ain&#039;t it?

Ah the &quot;Red Griffoons&quot;. An OPSO on that ship was surely lucky (knowingly or not) that he had &#039;em aboard. ;-)

Too bad they lost that S-3 over the side that cruise to.... well.... buffoonery in that &quot;out of the wires thang&quot;! (caught on CNN to boot). Knew the Skipper. A real good feller named Bones.  Became lightening rod and took all the static hisself. 

They did good that cruise though during- &quot;shock &amp; awe&quot;. As I remember it- 30+ sorties a day! Think about that. 6 jets- all on da roof....A luxury we ain&#039;t got now with the &quot;All-Hornet&quot; wing.

That being said, the now decomissioned &quot;Griffoons&quot; MOST notable achievement on that cruise is that incident where they damaged/sunk that big ol&#039; personally owned yacht..er... no....&quot;naval target&quot; with a laser mav.

Read between the lines at:
http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=1100&amp;tid=1500&amp;ct=1
&amp;
http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=6499

Don&#039;t know that feller flying aboard- I&#039;d give &#039;em the Callsign &quot;Hoss&quot; for Hoss Cartwright...It musta been like landing inthat movie&quot;Final Countdown&quot;. I&#039;ll bet them TF34 blades got a good &quot;honing&quot;!

b2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ain&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Ah the &#8220;Red Griffoons&#8221;. An OPSO on that ship was surely lucky (knowingly or not) that he had &#8216;em aboard. <img src='http://www.neptunuslex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Too bad they lost that S-3 over the side that cruise to&#8230;. well&#8230;. buffoonery in that &#8220;out of the wires thang&#8221;! (caught on CNN to boot). Knew the Skipper. A real good feller named Bones.  Became lightening rod and took all the static hisself. </p>
<p>They did good that cruise though during- &#8220;shock &amp; awe&#8221;. As I remember it- 30+ sorties a day! Think about that. 6 jets- all on da roof&#8230;.A luxury we ain&#8217;t got now with the &#8220;All-Hornet&#8221; wing.</p>
<p>That being said, the now decomissioned &#8220;Griffoons&#8221; MOST notable achievement on that cruise is that incident where they damaged/sunk that big ol&#8217; personally owned yacht..er&#8230; no&#8230;.&#8221;naval target&#8221; with a laser mav.</p>
<p>Read between the lines at:<br />
<a href="http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=1100&#038;tid=1500&#038;ct=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=1100&#038;tid=1500&#038;ct=1</a><br />
&amp;<br />
<a href="http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=6499" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=6499</a></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know that feller flying aboard- I&#8217;d give &#8216;em the Callsign &#8220;Hoss&#8221; for Hoss Cartwright&#8230;It musta been like landing inthat movie&#8221;Final Countdown&#8221;. I&#8217;ll bet them TF34 blades got a good &#8220;honing&#8221;!</p>
<p>b2</p>
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