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		<title>By: MaxDamage</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaxDamage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one amused that *months* go by before some passing soul thinks they can contribute in a worthy fashion to the discussion, then feels obligated to do so?

David, you can&#039;t afford to be a Communist.  Given your age you&#039;re going to be paying the social security for at least two, possibly three, retirees.  That&#039;s four folks to support on your single income, and you can&#039;t very well tell them to spend less because they&#039;ve two more votes than you and they collect their share of your paycheck with a gun pointed at you courtesy of the people they voted for.

I suggest you start now for a career in finance., and become exceedingly good at it.  It&#039;s the only way you&#039;re going to be able to afford the taxes my generation will lay on you.  And the generation before me.  And given our life expectancy rate, the generation before them.

So yeah, we vote, and we vote in our self-interest.  Our self-interest is to pass the bill on to you.  The best part is, under Communism and Socialism we also get to tell you how you earn your money with the same vote.

Ain&#039;t that a gas?  You&#039;re going to love it.

Oh, and you forgot to consider Fascism.  It&#039;s an interesting system which takes all the bad things from Socialism and all the bad things from Capitalism and combines them into a single self-imploding economic model.

Good luck kid -- you&#039;re going to need it.

  - Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one amused that *months* go by before some passing soul thinks they can contribute in a worthy fashion to the discussion, then feels obligated to do so?</p>
<p>David, you can&#8217;t afford to be a Communist.  Given your age you&#8217;re going to be paying the social security for at least two, possibly three, retirees.  That&#8217;s four folks to support on your single income, and you can&#8217;t very well tell them to spend less because they&#8217;ve two more votes than you and they collect their share of your paycheck with a gun pointed at you courtesy of the people they voted for.</p>
<p>I suggest you start now for a career in finance., and become exceedingly good at it.  It&#8217;s the only way you&#8217;re going to be able to afford the taxes my generation will lay on you.  And the generation before me.  And given our life expectancy rate, the generation before them.</p>
<p>So yeah, we vote, and we vote in our self-interest.  Our self-interest is to pass the bill on to you.  The best part is, under Communism and Socialism we also get to tell you how you earn your money with the same vote.</p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t that a gas?  You&#8217;re going to love it.</p>
<p>Oh, and you forgot to consider Fascism.  It&#8217;s an interesting system which takes all the bad things from Socialism and all the bad things from Capitalism and combines them into a single self-imploding economic model.</p>
<p>Good luck kid &#8212; you&#8217;re going to need it.</p>
<p>  &#8211; Max</p>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hat&#039;s off to our emerged Drew! Play on, sir.</description>
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		<title>By: Drew C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

   Normally it is my policy not to feed trolls, especially when I am nothing more than an anonymous guest, but oh well.  Here goes:

1.  Caps Lock may be cruise control for cool, but you still have to steer.

2.  Communism does not work on a large scale.  I give you, as Exhibit A, Soviet Russia.  If that isn&#039;t enough, what happened to the precious revolution that occurred in the free-market FLAILEX now known as, and if it might please the court, Exhibit B, China?

3.  You cite the &quot;subprime mortgage mess&quot; as causing a ripple effect in the world economy, and thereby dooming us all to another Great Depression, the WPA and TVA, until Franklin Delano Roosevelt (and wife Elanor too,) rise from the grave and save us all.   Okay slick, explain why the markets in nearly every other country in the world are doing just fine?  Perhaps you might want to listen to your own rhetoric and look outside the borders of the U.S. for specific information before regurgitating half-baked malarkey that will surely cause you to slap yourself in the forehead after you&#039;ve matured a wee bit.  Most of the economists outside this country are concerned about the crisis because their own countries hold so much U.S. debt.  We are, however, incapable of causing the ruin you seem to so love, or there would be visible signs of it already.

4.  We are not a superpower.  We are a hyperpower.  We&#039;re the only one around that can do what we do in the way that it is being done.  I believe this term was coined by someone who speaks French.  Again, you may want to check your facts before posting.  Do not believe everything you get out of Wikipedia.

5.  Berkley police department beat a 13-year-old kid and numerous others?  Pics or it didn&#039;t happen.  I believe someone, including you, would have photographed this with the cellular telephone / Imperialist Tracking Device you surely possess.  (My question is, does it play Rage Against the Machine, Propaghandi, or Bob Marley when it rings?)

6.  &quot;Using this country as a base area for world revolution.&quot;  Oh wow.  I&#039;d like you to know my entire office laughed at this statement for fifteen minutes.

6.a.  I&#039;M IN UR BASE AREA REVOLTIN UR WORLDZ.

7.  &quot;Thoroughly corresponds with reality and scientific outlook.&quot;  Do you understand the words coming out of your own mouth?  Really?  What science might that be?  Like a Thomas Dolby based approach, which might actually blind you?  Or perhaps something weirder as proposed by R. and D. Elfman?

8.  I&#039;m glad you have strong beliefs.  When I was six I strongly believed that Harvey the Pooka was real.  In time, I was eventually dissuaded of that notion.  I am sure you feel that Karl Marx was a very smart man.  In time, well, you can figure out the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>   Normally it is my policy not to feed trolls, especially when I am nothing more than an anonymous guest, but oh well.  Here goes:</p>
<p>1.  Caps Lock may be cruise control for cool, but you still have to steer.</p>
<p>2.  Communism does not work on a large scale.  I give you, as Exhibit A, Soviet Russia.  If that isn&#8217;t enough, what happened to the precious revolution that occurred in the free-market FLAILEX now known as, and if it might please the court, Exhibit B, China?</p>
<p>3.  You cite the &#8220;subprime mortgage mess&#8221; as causing a ripple effect in the world economy, and thereby dooming us all to another Great Depression, the WPA and TVA, until Franklin Delano Roosevelt (and wife Elanor too,) rise from the grave and save us all.   Okay slick, explain why the markets in nearly every other country in the world are doing just fine?  Perhaps you might want to listen to your own rhetoric and look outside the borders of the U.S. for specific information before regurgitating half-baked malarkey that will surely cause you to slap yourself in the forehead after you&#8217;ve matured a wee bit.  Most of the economists outside this country are concerned about the crisis because their own countries hold so much U.S. debt.  We are, however, incapable of causing the ruin you seem to so love, or there would be visible signs of it already.</p>
<p>4.  We are not a superpower.  We are a hyperpower.  We&#8217;re the only one around that can do what we do in the way that it is being done.  I believe this term was coined by someone who speaks French.  Again, you may want to check your facts before posting.  Do not believe everything you get out of Wikipedia.</p>
<p>5.  Berkley police department beat a 13-year-old kid and numerous others?  Pics or it didn&#8217;t happen.  I believe someone, including you, would have photographed this with the cellular telephone / Imperialist Tracking Device you surely possess.  (My question is, does it play Rage Against the Machine, Propaghandi, or Bob Marley when it rings?)</p>
<p>6.  &#8220;Using this country as a base area for world revolution.&#8221;  Oh wow.  I&#8217;d like you to know my entire office laughed at this statement for fifteen minutes.</p>
<p>6.a.  I&#8217;M IN UR BASE AREA REVOLTIN UR WORLDZ.</p>
<p>7.  &#8220;Thoroughly corresponds with reality and scientific outlook.&#8221;  Do you understand the words coming out of your own mouth?  Really?  What science might that be?  Like a Thomas Dolby based approach, which might actually blind you?  Or perhaps something weirder as proposed by R. and D. Elfman?</p>
<p>8.  I&#8217;m glad you have strong beliefs.  When I was six I strongly believed that Harvey the Pooka was real.  In time, I was eventually dissuaded of that notion.  I am sure you feel that Karl Marx was a very smart man.  In time, well, you can figure out the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Idaho Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Idaho Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the parents, for not helping their children see the difference between what they are taught at school and reality.

Just my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the parents, for not helping their children see the difference between what they are taught at school and reality.</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refer the gentleman to the comments I made before. 

I don&#039;t find you the least bit threatening. Nor am I fully persuaded that you are stupid. Although if the &quot;substance&quot; that you&#039;re so proud of in your argument is that, despite its manifest economic, material and moral failures, communism still represents a workable model for government I&#039;ll be forced to a conclusion. 

I am, however, quite certain that you&#039;re deluded.

I blame the school system.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refer the gentleman to the comments I made before. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t find you the least bit threatening. Nor am I fully persuaded that you are stupid. Although if the &#8220;substance&#8221; that you&#8217;re so proud of in your argument is that, despite its manifest economic, material and moral failures, communism still represents a workable model for government I&#8217;ll be forced to a conclusion. </p>
<p>I am, however, quite certain that you&#8217;re deluded.</p>
<p>I blame the school system.</p>
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		<title>By: David Santos</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Santos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, it&#039;s amazing how so many of you have commented on me, that 15 year-old, yet you think I&#039;m just stupid. If I were really THAT stupid, why would I be such a threat to the status quo? Why would Melanie Morgan and all these &quot;Blue Star&quot; moms and vets find me insulting? 

The point is that I have substance to my argument. Otherwise, I wouldn&#039;t keep coming out to these demonstrations. I wouldn&#039;t keep fighting the power, and transforming the people, for revolution.

And, yes, I AM A COMMUNIST. What of it? I am on the side of humanity, while a lot of you are on the side of &quot;America the beautiful&quot;. I don&#039;t believe the solution lies in this &quot;Jeffersonian democracy&quot;. I do think we need a communist revolution in the belly of this imperialist beast. And, on that note, are you really so narrow-minded and, frankly, blind to the FACT that the good ol&#039; USofA is an empire (the last remaining superpower on Earth, for that matter)? Just look at the invasion of Iraq as one perfect example. The very fact the rulers of the US were able to so EASILY overpower Saddam&#039;s (yes, brutal, tyrannical, oppressing regime) is because of the imperialist nature of the US economy and its relation to the rest of the world. It starved the Iraqi people of basic resources (like food, water, medicine, etc.) for the decade before the invasion.

This is just ONE example of the imperialist nature of the US. There are numerous others (look now at the subprime mortgage crisis in the US and the tremendous and brutal ripple effect it has caused to the world economy; the cost of oil, pointing to the global dependency on oil that the US has been the leader in since the 1800s, leading to a DOUBLING OF BASIC FOOD STUFFS IN THE MATTER OF LESS THAN A WEEK).

All of these relations in the capitalist-imperialist economic mode of production give disgusting and brutal expressions that take shape in war for empire, torture, police brutality (which, by the way, the BPD was not passive as you make it seem; they beat and arrested a 13 year-old anti-war activist on Feb. 12, along with countless other acts of brutality committed by the police against demonstrators), white supremacy and American chauvinism (&quot;America #1), etc., etc. All these things can be overcome with making communist revolution in THIS COUNTRY as a base area for the WORLD REVOLUTION!

So, now... isn&#039;t that something from this &quot;stupid little 15 year-old&quot;. Take us serious, ya&#039;ll. We&#039;re young but we got substance. Whether you agree with us or not, you can&#039;t be mistaken around the fact that we are strong, articulate and, yes, developing young people with strongly held beliefs. 

I&#039;m sure some of you know PRO-WAR YOUNG PEOPLE with the same type of fierceness and boldness in their approach to taking out their ideas. The only difference: my outlook (and that of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA and its youth Bay Area Revolution Club) thoroughly corresponds with reality and the scientific outlook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, it&#8217;s amazing how so many of you have commented on me, that 15 year-old, yet you think I&#8217;m just stupid. If I were really THAT stupid, why would I be such a threat to the status quo? Why would Melanie Morgan and all these &#8220;Blue Star&#8221; moms and vets find me insulting? </p>
<p>The point is that I have substance to my argument. Otherwise, I wouldn&#8217;t keep coming out to these demonstrations. I wouldn&#8217;t keep fighting the power, and transforming the people, for revolution.</p>
<p>And, yes, I AM A COMMUNIST. What of it? I am on the side of humanity, while a lot of you are on the side of &#8220;America the beautiful&#8221;. I don&#8217;t believe the solution lies in this &#8220;Jeffersonian democracy&#8221;. I do think we need a communist revolution in the belly of this imperialist beast. And, on that note, are you really so narrow-minded and, frankly, blind to the FACT that the good ol&#8217; USofA is an empire (the last remaining superpower on Earth, for that matter)? Just look at the invasion of Iraq as one perfect example. The very fact the rulers of the US were able to so EASILY overpower Saddam&#8217;s (yes, brutal, tyrannical, oppressing regime) is because of the imperialist nature of the US economy and its relation to the rest of the world. It starved the Iraqi people of basic resources (like food, water, medicine, etc.) for the decade before the invasion.</p>
<p>This is just ONE example of the imperialist nature of the US. There are numerous others (look now at the subprime mortgage crisis in the US and the tremendous and brutal ripple effect it has caused to the world economy; the cost of oil, pointing to the global dependency on oil that the US has been the leader in since the 1800s, leading to a DOUBLING OF BASIC FOOD STUFFS IN THE MATTER OF LESS THAN A WEEK).</p>
<p>All of these relations in the capitalist-imperialist economic mode of production give disgusting and brutal expressions that take shape in war for empire, torture, police brutality (which, by the way, the BPD was not passive as you make it seem; they beat and arrested a 13 year-old anti-war activist on Feb. 12, along with countless other acts of brutality committed by the police against demonstrators), white supremacy and American chauvinism (&#8220;America #1), etc., etc. All these things can be overcome with making communist revolution in THIS COUNTRY as a base area for the WORLD REVOLUTION!</p>
<p>So, now&#8230; isn&#8217;t that something from this &#8220;stupid little 15 year-old&#8221;. Take us serious, ya&#8217;ll. We&#8217;re young but we got substance. Whether you agree with us or not, you can&#8217;t be mistaken around the fact that we are strong, articulate and, yes, developing young people with strongly held beliefs. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure some of you know PRO-WAR YOUNG PEOPLE with the same type of fierceness and boldness in their approach to taking out their ideas. The only difference: my outlook (and that of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA and its youth Bay Area Revolution Club) thoroughly corresponds with reality and the scientific outlook.</p>
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