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	<description>The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy!</description>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/11/21/the-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-417877</link>
		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who will not content themselves with half (or two thirds) a loaf may be forced to content themselves forever to wrangling over the whole - and never get to enjoy it.

&lt;em&gt;Selah.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who will not content themselves with half (or two thirds) a loaf may be forced to content themselves forever to wrangling over the whole &#8211; and never get to enjoy it.</p>
<p><em>Selah.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/11/21/the-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-417876</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what do you think of Obadiah Shoher&#039;s arguments against the peace process ( samsonblinded.org/blog/we-need-a-respite-from-peace.htm )?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what do you think of Obadiah Shoher&#8217;s arguments against the peace process ( samsonblinded.org/blog/we-need-a-respite-from-peace.htm )?</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/11/21/the-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-417873</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mahmoud Abbas: Called for Jerusalem to be the Palestinian capital
In a brief speech, Abbas pledged to reclaim part of Jerusalem for his people
&quot;We will continue on the path of the martyred President Yasser Arafat to be reburied in Jerusalem, which we loved . . . . Jerusalem, which he tried to make, and which all our people are trying to make, the capital of the Palestinian state.&quot;
11/11/07

Hudayabiya Treaty &amp;  Prophet Muhammad
:the Prophet Muhammad has set the classic example by concluding a (628 A.D.) treaty with the Makkans, known as the Hudayabiya Treaty (whereby) a peace treaty with the enemy is a valid instrument if it serves Muslim interests…the Prophet and his successors always reserved their right to repudiate any treaty or arrangement which they considered as harmful…Muslim authorities might come to terms with (the enemy), provided it was only for a temporary period…a temporary peace with the enemy is not inconsistent with Islam’s interests….”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mahmoud Abbas: Called for Jerusalem to be the Palestinian capital<br />
In a brief speech, Abbas pledged to reclaim part of Jerusalem for his people<br />
&#8220;We will continue on the path of the martyred President Yasser Arafat to be reburied in Jerusalem, which we loved . . . . Jerusalem, which he tried to make, and which all our people are trying to make, the capital of the Palestinian state.&#8221;<br />
11/11/07</p>
<p>Hudayabiya Treaty &amp;  Prophet Muhammad<br />
:the Prophet Muhammad has set the classic example by concluding a (628 A.D.) treaty with the Makkans, known as the Hudayabiya Treaty (whereby) a peace treaty with the enemy is a valid instrument if it serves Muslim interests…the Prophet and his successors always reserved their right to repudiate any treaty or arrangement which they considered as harmful…Muslim authorities might come to terms with (the enemy), provided it was only for a temporary period…a temporary peace with the enemy is not inconsistent with Islam’s interests….”</p>
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		<title>By: David M</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/11/21/the-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-417881</link>
		<dc:creator>David M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the - &lt;a href=&quot;http://thunderrun.blogspot.com/2007/11/web-reconnaissance-for-11232007.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Web Reconnaissance for 11/23/2007 &lt;/a&gt; A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the &#8211; <a href="http://thunderrun.blogspot.com/2007/11/web-reconnaissance-for-11232007.html" rel="nofollow"> Web Reconnaissance for 11/23/2007 </a> A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy-san</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2007/11/21/the-peace-process/comment-page-1/#comment-417875</link>
		<dc:creator>Skippy-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 23:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Israelis should give nothing more. I&#039;m of the opinion that the border of Israel should run to the Jordan River.

The Israelis are there to stay. The Arabs need to go on to Arab lands and move on with their lives.

Please remember that Trans-Jordan was originally to be a part of the Palestinian mandate, until the British broke it off to support the Hashemites. All that aside, I stand by my conviction that a Palestinian state west of the Jordan River is not economically viable. It will be ward of Israel forever. So get over with other Arabs and move on.

Except-no other Arab wants the Palestinians. I wonder why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Israelis should give nothing more. I&#8217;m of the opinion that the border of Israel should run to the Jordan River.</p>
<p>The Israelis are there to stay. The Arabs need to go on to Arab lands and move on with their lives.</p>
<p>Please remember that Trans-Jordan was originally to be a part of the Palestinian mandate, until the British broke it off to support the Hashemites. All that aside, I stand by my conviction that a Palestinian state west of the Jordan River is not economically viable. It will be ward of Israel forever. So get over with other Arabs and move on.</p>
<p>Except-no other Arab wants the Palestinians. I wonder why?</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skippy, I&#039;m really impressed. Most Americans do not realize that Jordan is the Palestinian State. Under Ehud Barak, Israel working with the United States as peace broker, worked out an agreement with Palestinians. Under this agreement, the Palestinians would have gotten about 95+% of what they wanted. Based on this, they said they were willing to sign peace agreements. The word went out to get everything on paper to be signed during ceremonies. It was time to sign the documents, everybody came together. The Palestinians stated they wanted one more thing. They wanted the &quot;Right of Return&quot;, this meant they could all move back into Israel. Ultimately, this would have led to the destruction of the Nation of Israel. At that point, all the work was pulled off the table and relations froze as hard as glacial ice.

Why is this so important? This is the exact same model we&#039;ll see in dealing with the issues of Iraq. 

As I look at the situation in Iraq, I believe our troops are giving their maximum effort to this very complex issue. We are told, &quot;This is a LONG war.&quot; Would somebody, PLEASE tell me, &quot;How long is &#039;long&#039;?&quot; As I see it, we are there for at least 10,000 years. This would be with an ever increasing level of involvement of our military, not decreasing as some have said. One note, I would be so happy if history proves me wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skippy, I&#8217;m really impressed. Most Americans do not realize that Jordan is the Palestinian State. Under Ehud Barak, Israel working with the United States as peace broker, worked out an agreement with Palestinians. Under this agreement, the Palestinians would have gotten about 95+% of what they wanted. Based on this, they said they were willing to sign peace agreements. The word went out to get everything on paper to be signed during ceremonies. It was time to sign the documents, everybody came together. The Palestinians stated they wanted one more thing. They wanted the &#8220;Right of Return&#8221;, this meant they could all move back into Israel. Ultimately, this would have led to the destruction of the Nation of Israel. At that point, all the work was pulled off the table and relations froze as hard as glacial ice.</p>
<p>Why is this so important? This is the exact same model we&#8217;ll see in dealing with the issues of Iraq. </p>
<p>As I look at the situation in Iraq, I believe our troops are giving their maximum effort to this very complex issue. We are told, &#8220;This is a LONG war.&#8221; Would somebody, PLEASE tell me, &#8220;How long is &#8216;long&#8217;?&#8221; As I see it, we are there for at least 10,000 years. This would be with an ever increasing level of involvement of our military, not decreasing as some have said. One note, I would be so happy if history proves me wrong.</p>
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