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		<title>By: Asif bhatti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asif bhatti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hurted of mohtarma benazir bhutto murder i am a huge fan of her she was so brave woman i see her a week ago before her death i can never forget that moment when i listen her speech in lodhran i really salute her..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hurted of mohtarma benazir bhutto murder i am a huge fan of her she was so brave woman i see her a week ago before her death i can never forget that moment when i listen her speech in lodhran i really salute her..</p>
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		<title>By: badbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>badbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>doorkeeper,

That was Laura Ingraham and she ain&#039;t no bimbo... 

Poor choice of words on her part which she immediately claimed,  but last I heard MS. Bhutto was shot at and died of a fall not of a an Al Queda beheading.

A little context please. She was talking about emergent opposition leadership coming out not methods of assasination. Recommend pray some more.

b2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doorkeeper,</p>
<p>That was Laura Ingraham and she ain&#8217;t no bimbo&#8230; </p>
<p>Poor choice of words on her part which she immediately claimed,  but last I heard MS. Bhutto was shot at and died of a fall not of a an Al Queda beheading.</p>
<p>A little context please. She was talking about emergent opposition leadership coming out not methods of assasination. Recommend pray some more.</p>
<p>b2</p>
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		<title>By: David Curp</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Curp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senior D and  Army Girl,

Oy vey, what to say? First of all, Army Girl, the idea that it would be better to &quot;get it all out in the open would benefit us&quot; is frustration, not analytical intelligence talking. As scream-inducing as working with the Pakistanis might be, they have reasons for being less than forthcoming as well. They sided with us during the Cold War and let us send aid to the Muj in Afghanistan in the face of a truly existential threat to us and them (the Soviets, allied at that time quite closely to India). They put a lot on the line when we needed help - and then, what happens during the 9os? We pretty much leave them alone and on their own (even putting sanctions on them over their nuke program and kicking out their guys from West Point and working with us). They have good reason not to trust us - and they are taking risks going after the islamists even to the degree they have (and if y ou want to understand why Musharef ultimately is more likely to work with us even in fits and starts than not - this photo should help...
http://www.kdavies.dircon.co.uk/pics/08.jpg 
- do you get the secret code, arf, arf?). Bottom line - domestically we are not that serious about the GWOT yet we are asking the Pakis, Saudis, et al, to tear apart their societies where Islamists have real power, and to do it in ways that don&#039;t offend our delicate sensibilities - and oh, by the way, we might change our minds with an election and leave them with all the damage that waging such a battle gets them while piously denouncing their excesses. The wonder is that we get any cooperation at all, not that we get reluctant help mixed with our &quot;friends&quot; hedging their bets. 

Senior D - yes, strangely enough Pervez likes being in power since he launched his coup to prevent being ousted and replaced by the CO of that truly pro-western organization, the ISI. I guess the question is - given that he is keeping things from truly spinning out of control, might he be the closest thing to a friend we have locally? I don&#039;t mean to romanticize the Pakistanis here, but we have to realize how dangerous for them it is to do what we are asking them to do, and how our own divisions make them concerned - maybe they want to live after our next election? That is how high the stakes are for them - and given that is the case we might be better off learning to live with less than perfect cooperation until we&#039;ve demonstrated some staying power - cause right now it is not clear whether we ourselves really get the difference between interests and ideology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senior D and  Army Girl,</p>
<p>Oy vey, what to say? First of all, Army Girl, the idea that it would be better to &#8220;get it all out in the open would benefit us&#8221; is frustration, not analytical intelligence talking. As scream-inducing as working with the Pakistanis might be, they have reasons for being less than forthcoming as well. They sided with us during the Cold War and let us send aid to the Muj in Afghanistan in the face of a truly existential threat to us and them (the Soviets, allied at that time quite closely to India). They put a lot on the line when we needed help &#8211; and then, what happens during the 9os? We pretty much leave them alone and on their own (even putting sanctions on them over their nuke program and kicking out their guys from West Point and working with us). They have good reason not to trust us &#8211; and they are taking risks going after the islamists even to the degree they have (and if y ou want to understand why Musharef ultimately is more likely to work with us even in fits and starts than not &#8211; this photo should help&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.kdavies.dircon.co.uk/pics/08.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.kdavies.dircon.co.uk/pics/08.jpg</a><br />
- do you get the secret code, arf, arf?). Bottom line &#8211; domestically we are not that serious about the GWOT yet we are asking the Pakis, Saudis, et al, to tear apart their societies where Islamists have real power, and to do it in ways that don&#8217;t offend our delicate sensibilities &#8211; and oh, by the way, we might change our minds with an election and leave them with all the damage that waging such a battle gets them while piously denouncing their excesses. The wonder is that we get any cooperation at all, not that we get reluctant help mixed with our &#8220;friends&#8221; hedging their bets. </p>
<p>Senior D &#8211; yes, strangely enough Pervez likes being in power since he launched his coup to prevent being ousted and replaced by the CO of that truly pro-western organization, the ISI. I guess the question is &#8211; given that he is keeping things from truly spinning out of control, might he be the closest thing to a friend we have locally? I don&#8217;t mean to romanticize the Pakistanis here, but we have to realize how dangerous for them it is to do what we are asking them to do, and how our own divisions make them concerned &#8211; maybe they want to live after our next election? That is how high the stakes are for them &#8211; and given that is the case we might be better off learning to live with less than perfect cooperation until we&#8217;ve demonstrated some staying power &#8211; cause right now it is not clear whether we ourselves really get the difference between interests and ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: SeniorD</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeniorD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Army Girl,

Nation-States don&#039;t have &#039;friends&#039; they merely have their own interests at heart.  Pervez takes that well known phrase to hie personal heart.  He&#039;s in power, likes being in power and will do &quot;anything to stay in power.

An unstable Pakistan (when was it ever &#039;stable?) helps promote AQ&#039;s agenda as well as Pervez.

&quot;Bubble, toil and trouble, fire burn and caldron bubble&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Army Girl,</p>
<p>Nation-States don&#8217;t have &#8216;friends&#8217; they merely have their own interests at heart.  Pervez takes that well known phrase to hie personal heart.  He&#8217;s in power, likes being in power and will do &#8220;anything to stay in power.</p>
<p>An unstable Pakistan (when was it ever &#8216;stable?) helps promote AQ&#8217;s agenda as well as Pervez.</p>
<p>&#8220;Bubble, toil and trouble, fire burn and caldron bubble&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Army Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Army Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait to see what will happen.  This is the stirring of the hornet&#039;s nest we needed to get something going.  We&#039;ve been sitting around pretending that Pakistan is our friend for far too long.  It&#039;s a sick joke.  

I&#039;m tired of pretending we&#039;re on the same side.  Let&#039;s get it all out on the table, and get on with whatever it is we need to do to make real progress in that region.  I agree, things will get worse, before they get better.

When asked why she was doing what she was doing and if she was worried about being killed, she reportedly told the media, &quot;Insha Allah.&quot;

And so it goes... 

Insha Allah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see what will happen.  This is the stirring of the hornet&#8217;s nest we needed to get something going.  We&#8217;ve been sitting around pretending that Pakistan is our friend for far too long.  It&#8217;s a sick joke.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m tired of pretending we&#8217;re on the same side.  Let&#8217;s get it all out on the table, and get on with whatever it is we need to do to make real progress in that region.  I agree, things will get worse, before they get better.</p>
<p>When asked why she was doing what she was doing and if she was worried about being killed, she reportedly told the media, &#8220;Insha Allah.&#8221;</p>
<p>And so it goes&#8230; </p>
<p>Insha Allah</p>
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		<title>By: doorkeeper</title>
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		<dc:creator>doorkeeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>praying hard.....this is very scary.  

Who is the blonde bimbo filling in for Billy O tonight?  what a tacky, totally class-less thing to say, that no other politicians in Bhutto&#039;s party will &quot;want to stick their necks out&quot;

incredible.  just incredible, that she&#039;d say something like that....and she knew what she was doing, since before she said it, she made some kind of little &#039;bad phrase to use today&#039; comment.  

unintentionally, that would be bad.  Knowing, and saying it anyway......she needs to find another job.  
d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>praying hard&#8230;..this is very scary.  </p>
<p>Who is the blonde bimbo filling in for Billy O tonight?  what a tacky, totally class-less thing to say, that no other politicians in Bhutto&#8217;s party will &#8220;want to stick their necks out&#8221;</p>
<p>incredible.  just incredible, that she&#8217;d say something like that&#8230;.and she knew what she was doing, since before she said it, she made some kind of little &#8216;bad phrase to use today&#8217; comment.  </p>
<p>unintentionally, that would be bad.  Knowing, and saying it anyway&#8230;&#8230;she needs to find another job.<br />
d</p>
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