Comments on: Flying Warrants http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/01/08/flying-warrants/ The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:43:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Drifter http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/01/08/flying-warrants/comment-page-2/#comment-420530 Drifter Tue, 13 May 2008 03:00:31 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/01/08/flying-warrants/#comment-420530 I was one of the original ADO's, selcted in '87 and became effective upon executing orders in '88. Worked out well for me. I chose the path due to needs of my family (I had two young kids and a wife who had two heart operations at age 32), just as I was coming up for third sea tour. Made it to O-5 and retired in '97. Going ADO had it's up's/down's but for a "few" of us it worked out. Overall, not a good program. Once Lehman was gone the program fell apart. I was one of the original ADO’s, selcted in ’87 and became effective upon executing orders in ’88. Worked out well for me. I chose the path due to needs of my family (I had two young kids and a wife who had two heart operations at age 32), just as I was coming up for third sea tour. Made it to O-5 and retired in ’97. Going ADO had it’s up’s/down’s but for a “few” of us it worked out. Overall, not a good program. Once Lehman was gone the program fell apart.

]]> By: Hoot http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/01/08/flying-warrants/comment-page-2/#comment-420529 Hoot Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:19:07 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/01/08/flying-warrants/#comment-420529 Stumbled onto this discussion. Haven't really kept up with Navy goings on since I retired in 94, but I was an FLDO; winged in 84 and got to fly again immediately after my VT tour. Finished in recruiting...all in all a pretty screwed up career pattern. I always liked the concept of fly only folks, but the Navy never had a real plan for FLDOs. We ended up competing with the line guys even in the training command because in reality individual commands had no direction from above regarding the LDOs. Worked out for me and the guys I stayed in touch with because we were saavy enough to compete. Had I not retired when I did, I'm pretty sure I would have been screwed from that point on though. My last choice was fly anything out of the Philipines or fly the admiral out of Keflavik or go recruit and prep for your retirement. I counted recruiting beans and prepped. I hope the plan for warrants is better managed. Stumbled onto this discussion. Haven’t really kept up with Navy goings on since I retired in 94, but I was an FLDO; winged in 84 and got to fly again immediately after my VT tour. Finished in recruiting…all in all a pretty screwed up career pattern. I always liked the concept of fly only folks, but the Navy never had a real plan for FLDOs. We ended up competing with the line guys even in the training command because in reality individual commands had no direction from above regarding the LDOs. Worked out for me and the guys I stayed in touch with because we were saavy enough to compete. Had I not retired when I did, I’m pretty sure I would have been screwed from that point on though. My last choice was fly anything out of the Philipines or fly the admiral out of Keflavik or go recruit and prep for your retirement. I counted recruiting beans and prepped. I hope the plan for warrants is better managed.

]]> By: Outlaw 13 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/01/08/flying-warrants/comment-page-2/#comment-420496 Outlaw 13 Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:43:10 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/01/08/flying-warrants/#comment-420496 No worries B2! :) We did and do work with fixed wing CAS for some things but generally no, we didn't need any help. We also did some work for the USMC in Fallujah in 2004 that netted our unit a NUC. I know you don't know this but before there was an aviation branch in the Army (Vietnam War), attack helicopters were sometimes assigned to Artillery Units as Aerial Rocket Artillery. No worries B2! :)

We did and do work with fixed wing CAS for some things but generally no, we didn’t need any help. We also did some work for the USMC in Fallujah in 2004 that netted our unit a NUC.

I know you don’t know this but before there was an aviation branch in the Army (Vietnam War), attack helicopters were sometimes assigned to Artillery Units as Aerial Rocket Artillery.

]]> By: badbob http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/01/08/flying-warrants/comment-page-2/#comment-420527 badbob Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:09:31 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/01/08/flying-warrants/#comment-420527 Craig/Skippy, Roger all on the ADO. Every Bubba I know who went that way ended up retiring at 15-20 as LCDRs and went to the lines. They spent a lot of time in places like Gitmo and Cubi flying A-4's some really enjoyed, instructor duty at Meridian (same) and stints as Cat "O"s (not that there is anything wrong with that)... Why we try to reinvent the wheel every 10 years is beyond me. Out of all the 3 major line officer (warrior) communities in the Navy- aviator, shoe and bubblehead, aviators used to outnumber the rest at over 60% (is that still about right?) creating a strict pyramid for 1310/20's. There are only so many CAG jobs as we all know. It ain't perfect but IMO it keeps all naval aviators on their toes and that is why we are the best (not just because we can thread the needle crossing the ramp)! Safety valve being the lines. Creating another 'caste' just complicates things..something like that program would be useful if it were 1941....And it was- then. Lex- This IS sorta a "hummer love-in". Whoa- that doesn't sound good, do it? ;-) b2 Craig/Skippy,

Roger all on the ADO. Every Bubba I know who went that way ended up retiring at 15-20 as LCDRs and went to the lines.

They spent a lot of time in places like Gitmo and Cubi flying A-4′s some really enjoyed, instructor duty at Meridian (same) and stints as Cat “O”s (not that there is anything wrong with that)…

Why we try to reinvent the wheel every 10 years is beyond me.

Out of all the 3 major line officer (warrior) communities in the Navy- aviator, shoe and bubblehead, aviators used to outnumber the rest at over 60% (is that still about right?) creating a strict pyramid for 1310/20′s. There are only so many CAG jobs as we all know. It ain’t perfect but IMO it keeps all naval aviators on their toes and that is why we are the best (not just because we can thread the needle crossing the ramp)! Safety valve being the lines. Creating another ‘caste’ just complicates things..something like that program would be useful if it were 1941….And it was- then.

Lex- This IS sorta a “hummer love-in”. Whoa- that doesn’t sound good, do it? ;-)

b2

]]> By: Nose http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/01/08/flying-warrants/comment-page-2/#comment-420521 Nose Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:39:41 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/01/08/flying-warrants/#comment-420521 Apparently, you bring Hummer dudes and term paper writing services together...(see comment #50) Shoulda done a better de-louse on RTB. Any Friday musings today? Lessons learned from you night out? Apparently, you bring Hummer dudes and term paper writing services together…(see comment #50) Shoulda done a better de-louse on RTB.

Any Friday musings today? Lessons learned from you night out?

]]> By: Skippy-san http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/01/08/flying-warrants/comment-page-1/#comment-420526 Skippy-san Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:38:36 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/01/08/flying-warrants/#comment-420526 That's cause you need Hummer guys to class up the place. :-) That’s cause you need Hummer guys to class up the place. :-)

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