Comments on: Busted http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/05/07/busted/ The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:36:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bou http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/05/07/busted/comment-page-1/#comment-428828 Bou Fri, 09 May 2008 03:52:37 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4091#comment-428828 Where there are not the issues to this degree at the engineering schools, there are still issues. When I was hired 20 years ago, no engineer ever failed the drug test. Not anymore. I hear its rather commonplace now. I used to walk the halls and we all kind of looked the same (although I don't look like a guy) and now, the young folks either look like we do (conservative) or way whacked, with all sorts of piercings, funky hair, and tatts. They smoke too... which is something most engineers of my generation do not do. Very odd... this new generation. Drugs are seeping into the engineering schools too. Its there... just not quite as bad as the other schools. Where there are not the issues to this degree at the engineering schools, there are still issues. When I was hired 20 years ago, no engineer ever failed the drug test. Not anymore. I hear its rather commonplace now.

I used to walk the halls and we all kind of looked the same (although I don’t look like a guy) and now, the young folks either look like we do (conservative) or way whacked, with all sorts of piercings, funky hair, and tatts. They smoke too… which is something most engineers of my generation do not do.

Very odd… this new generation. Drugs are seeping into the engineering schools too. Its there… just not quite as bad as the other schools.

]]> By: david foster http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/05/07/busted/comment-page-1/#comment-428826 david foster Fri, 09 May 2008 02:45:04 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4091#comment-428826 "They’re not there with a desire to learn, but a desire to get a piece of paper that will get them a job. Which is not the focus of a college or university education. That’s the focus of trade school"...actually, I bet that most people who attend a trade school expect to learn something that will be useful in the trade. If you go to welding school, you probably are aware that you're actually going to need to learn how to weld. It's more in the *universities* that the focus has become primarily on that piece of paper...which is valued for the circular reason that it is valued. See my post <a href="http://photoncourier.blogspot.com/2003_05_01_photoncourier_archive.html#93683654" rel="nofollow">an academic bubble?</a> “They’re not there with a desire to learn, but a desire to get a piece of paper that will get them a job. Which is not the focus of a college or university education. That’s the focus of trade school”…actually, I bet that most people who attend a trade school expect to learn something that will be useful in the trade. If you go to welding school, you probably are aware that you’re actually going to need to learn how to weld. It’s more in the *universities* that the focus has become primarily on that piece of paper…which is valued for the circular reason that it is valued. See my post an academic bubble?

]]> By: GeoSTI http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/05/07/busted/comment-page-1/#comment-428827 GeoSTI Fri, 09 May 2008 02:31:38 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4091#comment-428827 Maybe this is just the nerdy engineering type in me, but why bother going to college if one plans to spend most of it high in one form or another. Now, there have been times where I've used amounts of Redbull that were risky, but cocaine? Amen to that Mr. Carmichael. I'd hate to have my newly minted degree hit with a scandal like this. Maybe this is just the nerdy engineering type in me, but why bother going to college if one plans to spend most of it high in one form or another.
Now, there have been times where I’ve used amounts of Redbull that were risky, but cocaine?

Amen to that Mr. Carmichael. I’d hate to have my newly minted degree hit with a scandal like this.

]]> By: John Carmichael http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/05/07/busted/comment-page-1/#comment-428825 John Carmichael Thu, 08 May 2008 20:58:16 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4091#comment-428825 As a Grad from SDSU ('90), I am furious albeit not at all surprised at this... except for maybe the scale. Unfortunately knuckleheads like these do nothing to value my diploma... rumor has it if you drive through campus they'll throw a diploma in your car now... This is not true! You've got to stop first! The other disturbing element to this is the continued cries of outrage at the "Heavy Handed" pursuit of this! What a bunch of bovine scatology! It is our continued "tolerance" of crap like this that leads to the early retirement of promising if not misguided young people. The cries go out for more drug education, yeah that receives a lot of attentive listeners at that lecture! Damn it, these drugs are killing our youth and killing our spirit... people do not take actions until the consequences are standing in front of you like a severe halitosis marine DI! Make them pay the consequences and make an example out of 'em all! -JC As a Grad from SDSU (’90), I am furious albeit not at all surprised at this… except for maybe the scale.

Unfortunately knuckleheads like these do nothing to value my diploma… rumor has it if you drive through campus they’ll throw a diploma in your car now… This is not true! You’ve got to stop first!

The other disturbing element to this is the continued cries of outrage at the “Heavy Handed” pursuit of this! What a bunch of bovine scatology! It is our continued “tolerance” of crap like this that leads to the early retirement of promising if not misguided young people.

The cries go out for more drug education, yeah that receives a lot of attentive listeners at that lecture! Damn it, these drugs are killing our youth and killing our spirit… people do not take actions until the consequences are standing in front of you like a severe halitosis marine DI! Make them pay the consequences and make an example out of ‘em all!

-JC

]]> By: Humble1390 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/05/07/busted/comment-page-1/#comment-428824 Humble1390 Thu, 08 May 2008 01:27:52 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4091#comment-428824 Whoa!! Horrible blasphemy?? Untruths?? Seems extreme to me, but a good point for sure. I agree 100% that the higher education system in America has been and is being degraded and perverted. Colleges need money, more studs=more money. So they let more people in, and have to keep them in. Lower standards, bigger curves. Easier to get by with less learning. A travesty. I level equal blame on society. "You need to go to college to make it, nowadays." Not 100% true, but the numbers make a good case for it. College is the safe bet. So colleges are filled with people who in earlier times ( even a mere 20, 30 years ago) would NEVER have considered college. They're not there with a desire to learn, but a desire to get a piece of paper that will get them a job. Which is not the focus of a college or university education. That's the focus of trade school. Look at the percentages of undergrads who change majors multiple times. They're not seeking knowledge, they're seeking an easier path. And our education system supports this. Thrives on it, actually. Sickens me. So really, seeing druggies on campuses, not so surprising to me. Whoa!! Horrible blasphemy?? Untruths?? Seems extreme to me, but a good point for sure.

I agree 100% that the higher education system in America has been and is being degraded and perverted. Colleges need money, more studs=more money. So they let more people in, and have to keep them in. Lower standards, bigger curves. Easier to get by with less learning.

A travesty.

I level equal blame on society. “You need to go to college to make it, nowadays.” Not 100% true, but the numbers make a good case for it. College is the safe bet. So colleges are filled with people who in earlier times ( even a mere 20, 30 years ago) would NEVER have considered college. They’re not there with a desire to learn, but a desire to get a piece of paper that will get them a job. Which is not the focus of a college or university education. That’s the focus of trade school.

Look at the percentages of undergrads who change majors multiple times. They’re not seeking knowledge, they’re seeking an easier path. And our education system supports this. Thrives on it, actually.

Sickens me.

So really, seeing druggies on campuses, not so surprising to me.

]]> By: Kris, in New England http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/05/07/busted/comment-page-1/#comment-428820 Kris, in New England Wed, 07 May 2008 23:29:19 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4091#comment-428820 Marianne: I have the same fears as you. And it starts in our places of higher learning. By and large they teach such druck, such untruths - such horrible blasphemy. It's no wonder we are afraid. Marianne: I have the same fears as you. And it starts in our places of higher learning. By and large they teach such druck, such untruths – such horrible blasphemy. It’s no wonder we are afraid.

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