Comments on: Learning the hard way http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/05/14/learning-the-hard-way/ The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:11:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: FbL http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/05/14/learning-the-hard-way/comment-page-1/#comment-429254 FbL Wed, 14 May 2008 22:32:50 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4134#comment-429254 BillT has some comments on the post that might help answer some of the questions being asked here. BillT has some comments on the post that might help answer some of the questions being asked here.

]]> By: Pogue http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/05/14/learning-the-hard-way/comment-page-1/#comment-429252 Pogue Wed, 14 May 2008 22:26:16 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4134#comment-429252 When I was last deployed our job was escorting troops coming in or out via Kuwait, and we saw a lot of unit changes. One unit had developed excellent relations with the local population, had good intelligence and as a result had a very peaceful AO. They were relieved by a unit who wasn't interested in the turnover info and who's command felt their purpose was to kick a$$ and take names. Since they wanted a fight, they got one. The AO went to h3ll. Interestingly enough they were relieved by the original unit who in short order restored the situation. For the record, I don't believe this was Bill T's current AO. When I was last deployed our job was escorting troops coming in or out via Kuwait, and we saw a lot of unit changes. One unit had developed excellent relations with the local population, had good intelligence and as a result had a very peaceful AO. They were relieved by a unit who wasn’t interested in the turnover info and who’s command felt their purpose was to kick a$$ and take names. Since they wanted a fight, they got one. The AO went to h3ll. Interestingly enough they were relieved by the original unit who in short order restored the situation. For the record, I don’t believe this was Bill T’s current AO.

]]> By: STEVEC http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/05/14/learning-the-hard-way/comment-page-1/#comment-429253 STEVEC Wed, 14 May 2008 22:21:41 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4134#comment-429253 I don't think that this is a new story...it's about what happened a while ago. So it would appear that we have learned that lesson and are and have been doing the neighborhood policing and gaining success as reported by guys like Mike Yon - not that there are many such as Mike Yon. I don’t think that this is a new story…it’s about what happened a while ago. So it would appear that we have learned that lesson and are and have been doing the neighborhood policing and gaining success as reported by guys like Mike Yon – not that there are many such as Mike Yon.

]]> By: geo6 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/05/14/learning-the-hard-way/comment-page-1/#comment-429251 geo6 Wed, 14 May 2008 19:15:47 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4134#comment-429251 New unit in the AO. SSG Jeff has it right. Arrogance begets unnecessary casualties. New unit in the AO. SSG Jeff has it right. Arrogance begets unnecessary casualties.

]]> By: staghounds http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/05/14/learning-the-hard-way/comment-page-1/#comment-429250 staghounds Wed, 14 May 2008 18:29:37 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4134#comment-429250 What's so upsetting is that we not only used to <a href="http://www.bakbakan.com/junglep.html#TOC" rel="nofollow">know it</a>. Hell, once upon a time we did it <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000USSIBK/ref=sr_1_olp_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210788042&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">ourselves</a>! And now we are forgetting it <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Rifleman-Dodd-Gun-Novels-Peninsular/dp/B0006APMVG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210787937&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">again</a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/War-Shadows-Guerrilla-Robert-Asprey/dp/0595225934/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210786812&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">again, a thousand times</a>. What’s so upsetting is that we not only used to know it.

Hell, once upon a time we did it ourselves!

And now we are forgetting it again and

again, a thousand times.

]]> By: SSG Jeff (USAR) http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/05/14/learning-the-hard-way/comment-page-1/#comment-429249 SSG Jeff (USAR) Wed, 14 May 2008 16:58:12 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4134#comment-429249 I wonder if there was a unit changeout - sometimes it's hard to get past an incoming commander's ego the fact that the guy who's been there for 12 months actually does know how to do it right. I wonder if there was a unit changeout – sometimes it’s hard to get past an incoming commander’s ego the fact that the guy who’s been there for 12 months actually does know how to do it right.

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