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		<title>By: Shot in the Dark &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I&#8217;ll Write Nice And Slow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shot in the Dark &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I&#8217;ll Write Nice And Slow</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/07/06/oops-3/comment-page-2/#comment-432230</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the problems here is that so many (uninformed) people thought that because Ambassador Wilson said he found no evidence that Iraq was trying to buy yellowcake from Niger between 1999 and 2002, it meant that Iraq didn&#039;t have any uranium at all.  Now, suddenly, all of our friends on the left, the ones who admired the Wilsons so much, why of &lt;i&gt;course&lt;/i&gt; they knew Iraq had unprocessed uranium.

So, let&#039;s imagine that President Bush had done it the liberals&#039; way.  He had let the UNSCOM inspectors continue, they&#039;d have certified the country in compliance, and then the sanctions would have ended, say in mid 2004.  Saddam Hussein would still be in power, his people would  still have been brutalized daily, and he&#039;d have had the full economic resources to do what he wasn&#039;t able to do during the sanctions period.

Then, around, say, July of 2008, we&#039;d have the Democrats screaming that Iraq is working toward building Teh Bomb, and it&#039;s all George Bush&#039;s fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the problems here is that so many (uninformed) people thought that because Ambassador Wilson said he found no evidence that Iraq was trying to buy yellowcake from Niger between 1999 and 2002, it meant that Iraq didn&#8217;t have any uranium at all.  Now, suddenly, all of our friends on the left, the ones who admired the Wilsons so much, why of <i>course</i> they knew Iraq had unprocessed uranium.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s imagine that President Bush had done it the liberals&#8217; way.  He had let the UNSCOM inspectors continue, they&#8217;d have certified the country in compliance, and then the sanctions would have ended, say in mid 2004.  Saddam Hussein would still be in power, his people would  still have been brutalized daily, and he&#8217;d have had the full economic resources to do what he wasn&#8217;t able to do during the sanctions period.</p>
<p>Then, around, say, July of 2008, we&#8217;d have the Democrats screaming that Iraq is working toward building Teh Bomb, and it&#8217;s all George Bush&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxDamage</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaxDamage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ff11, one doesn&#039;t need to use centrifuges.  They are but one method, though the quickest.  Gaseous diffusion, thermal diffusion, electromagnetic isotope separation, all were used nearly 70 years ago.  Today there are numerous other techniques, we being a bit more knowledgable about chemistry these days.

Point is, the technology isn&#039;t a hurdle to a nation-state, nor is keeping it a secret as we&#039;ve proved in the past.

None of which proves Saddam did have a program to make up a nuke, but one must admit he had the material and the capability to do so.

Which was, I believe, the original claim.

 - Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ff11, one doesn&#8217;t need to use centrifuges.  They are but one method, though the quickest.  Gaseous diffusion, thermal diffusion, electromagnetic isotope separation, all were used nearly 70 years ago.  Today there are numerous other techniques, we being a bit more knowledgable about chemistry these days.</p>
<p>Point is, the technology isn&#8217;t a hurdle to a nation-state, nor is keeping it a secret as we&#8217;ve proved in the past.</p>
<p>None of which proves Saddam did have a program to make up a nuke, but one must admit he had the material and the capability to do so.</p>
<p>Which was, I believe, the original claim.</p>
<p> &#8211; Max</p>
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		<title>By: RetRsvMike</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/07/06/oops-3/comment-page-2/#comment-432195</link>
		<dc:creator>RetRsvMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ff11 (and all):  upon re-reading, i realize that my closing sentence regarding BB guns and ear drums could be misconstrued.  it is used here solely in the context of a counter-point to the earlier comment regarding a BB gun theoretically being more dangerous than degraded Sarin...

it was specifically not intended to postulate anything regarding ff11&#039;s own personal ear drums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ff11 (and all):  upon re-reading, i realize that my closing sentence regarding BB guns and ear drums could be misconstrued.  it is used here solely in the context of a counter-point to the earlier comment regarding a BB gun theoretically being more dangerous than degraded Sarin&#8230;</p>
<p>it was specifically not intended to postulate anything regarding ff11&#8217;s own personal ear drums.</p>
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		<title>By: RetRsvMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>RetRsvMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did you miss the bit about degradation and shelf life?

if it is Sarin today, then it became Sarin not more than about 5 years ago (IF it was a result of being in a binary round w/pure precursors, stored under optimal conditions); or (IF was &quot;ready made&quot;) than it became Sarin much more recently than 5 years ago.

let&#039;s see now:  1991 + 5 = (help me on this) not quite 2003.

so, IF Sarin is present in 2003, hmm, perhaps, maybe, just possibly, it came into existence sometime after the magical get well happy days of 1991.

perhaps the reports in July 1996 that Iraq was assessed to possess Sarin stockages with stability projected thru at least March 1997 were just so much hooey.

&quot;Sarin rendered inactive&quot; is harmless sodium salts.  

&quot;Sarin itself&quot; is what they found.

ps: a drop of Sarin can kill a 100kg adult. a BB gun pointed at your ear drum can do a lot of damage.</description>
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<p>if it is Sarin today, then it became Sarin not more than about 5 years ago (IF it was a result of being in a binary round w/pure precursors, stored under optimal conditions); or (IF was &#8220;ready made&#8221;) than it became Sarin much more recently than 5 years ago.</p>
<p>let&#8217;s see now:  1991 + 5 = (help me on this) not quite 2003.</p>
<p>so, IF Sarin is present in 2003, hmm, perhaps, maybe, just possibly, it came into existence sometime after the magical get well happy days of 1991.</p>
<p>perhaps the reports in July 1996 that Iraq was assessed to possess Sarin stockages with stability projected thru at least March 1997 were just so much hooey.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sarin rendered inactive&#8221; is harmless sodium salts.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Sarin itself&#8221; is what they found.</p>
<p>ps: a drop of Sarin can kill a 100kg adult. a BB gun pointed at your ear drum can do a lot of damage.</p>
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		<title>By: Common Sense Political Thought &#187; Archives &#187; I might just get banned from the Mahablog &#8212; again!</title>
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