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Superb flying: tight manuver space and a lot of control manipulations to accomplish … wonder what that tailslide feels like in the cockpit? Gotta be a very strange sensation. The high AOA manuver is also very impressive. When they hang a GAU pod on it for strafing ground targets …. with that slow speed performance, maybe it can literally drop iron bombs on the doorstep … air superiority? When is the last time our ground troops had to worry about hostile air action? Not saying it won’t happen .. but mudmovers is where we are for the near future.
Well,
As neat as that is, I still say that we need an updated SPAD. Drop the radial for a turbine with a new cowl and variable pitch props, and you’d have one helluva mud mover.
Just sayin…..
The lesson is, “Don’t get slow with a Raptor.”
The problem is, the other rule is “Don’t get fast with a Raptor.”
I’d be very interested to see a knife fight between a Raptor and an SU-30. You folks that have seen the video know what the -30 can do.
Well, we can’t do everything in life. Those Frenchies do have their redeeming qualities…
Have a great weekend!
Greetings:
The “ne” in your “ne plus ultra” doesn’t take an accent (egu) mark.
The knife fight would be short… a dagger in the back of the -30, cause it would never see the -22 until too late.
Sure yak, I know that, but assuming they made it to the merge, I’d love to see what two good sticks could do.
Heck, I’d like to see what YOU could do. If you are who I think you are, you had a pretty good rep in the day.
Right you are 11B40. And isn’t the term accent egout?
Cross-posted from the Harpoint Harpoon discussion board, from a pair of Russians watching this performance:
“Going back to the Raptor, [Su-30MKi/MKA/MKM project manager Aleksandr] Barkovsky said that generally speaking the Su-30MKI performance is largely similar, “but we did it ten years ago”.
The Su-35 with 16% more power and a bit less structural weight will perform somewhat better than the Raptor and the Su-30MKI. Touching on the Raptor’s flat spin recovery maneuver, Barkovsky said the F-22A made only three-third of the 360-degree arc before attempting recovery with vectored thrust. “We demonstrated flat spin recovery after 2 – 3 circles. Besides, we used thrust vectoring to change direction of the spin rotation and then recovered. They are still to demonstrate that”.
Barkovsky also said that from his viewpoint the potential of the F-22A platform is not fully exploited yet, so that Lokcheed Martin has something to work on. Ultimately, the US maker shall be able to offer air show visitors a more spectacular demonstration when the Raptor potential is fully exploited by its flight control system”.
The Russian fighters use round-shaped nozzles that are part of their engines, while on the Raptor’s flat nozzles are a part of the airframe. “Their design solution give them more ability to fool infrared missiles”, the Su-30MKI chief designer said.
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The Su-35 is classified as “transitional type” from fourth to fifth generation fighters, a bridge-gapping measure before Russia’s PAK FA fifth generation fighter becomes available. Russian air force commander Gen. Aleksandr Zelin expects its prototype to fly in 2009 and pass trials in 2013. Zelin came to Farnborough to watch performance of the Raptor in the company of Sukhoi general director Mikhail Pogosyan. Zelin told the media on the eve of the show that “from what we have seen”, the F-22A does not exceed the Su-35 in maneuverable flight performance.
In his turn Mikhail Pogosyan said the Su-35 is not a match for the F-22A, but the PAK FA shall match it. He added that the cycle of the fifth generation fighter development takes 7-10 years. “Not all of our customers will go for the fifth generation fighter due to its high complexity and costs. They may find the Su-35 meeting their needs”. He predicts the market for more than 200 Su-35s in 2011-2020 time frame. He further said that production of the Su-35 can run in parallel with that of the PAK FA “for several years”.
Gotta appreciate all that honesty, makes me believe the Russians were just a tad blown away, and left a bit worried about how their front-line fighters would fare against a Raptor. My take is that with Raptors datalink, low RCS, and maneuverability, that anything that flies against is meat on the table.
Wow. I’ve seen several different videos of the F-22 and I never stop being wowed.
I saw one flying at Miramar for the airshow last year, but the low cloud cover limited maneuvers. It was mostly just some tight turns and a steep climb–I remember being very impressed with the four-corners 360. I sure hope they bring another one this year (and that the weather is good!).
For what it may be worth, I’ve been to Farnborough, and Paris, I’ve even seen airshows in Singapore and San Diego (down at Brown Field about 20 years ago). But the very BEST airshow in the world, year in and year out, is at Oshkosh. Great people, great aircraft, and the show surpasses belief. Find a way to go just once and you’ll be hooked for life.
My brother was trying to convince me to to Oshkosh with his this year. Alas, it was not meant to be. But someday …
Marine6 … besides, the weather in Wisconsin is great this time of year, usually. The snow is gone, mostly, and the first frost won’t come until the middle of October. The grass and the plants are frantically green, trying to get in their growth cycle before the first freeze. I grew up in Wisconsin, and it once snowed on my birthday, June 14.
Didn’t stick, though.
Marianne
Farnsborough ain’t bad, Paris is OK but the one in Singapore is even better especially when you get paid to go. The one in the Gulf..not so good..
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Youngest son is at a Civil Air Patrol leadership school in Colorado Springs. He called us up the other night to let us know how things were going. So you think he had a lot to say about everything he was learning at the school?
Not Really….
First Thing; “Hey Dad, there’s an F22 sitting on the ramp and they said we might get to go look at it.”
Second thing; “The food is great and they let me eat anything I want.”
I think he might just have his priorities straight.