Comments on: Commwealth flying http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/07/26/commwealth-flying/ The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:20:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: mrdeux http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/07/26/commwealth-flying/comment-page-1/#comment-245836 mrdeux Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:31:41 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4555#comment-245836 If anyone is still interested in this event, a subsequent ATSB release gives some more data, as well as a link to a 40 page pdf of data. http://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/2008/release/2008_33.aspx Seems I was wrong about the flight controls.... If anyone is still interested in this event, a subsequent ATSB release gives some more data, as well as a link to a 40 page pdf of data.

http://www.atsb.gov.au/newsroom/2008/release/2008_33.aspx

Seems I was wrong about the flight controls….

]]> By: ikztorks http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/07/26/commwealth-flying/comment-page-1/#comment-231012 ikztorks Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:39:56 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4555#comment-231012 O2 Bottles: In small aircraft (a/c), the O2 bottle is often refilled when empty, so the Bottle stays with the a/c. In large airliners, may we assume that the bottle is changed, rather than refilled in situ? If so, the bottle in question is not "part" of the original airliner, but a replaceable item. In my [limited] experience, the O2 bottles have a finite life (20 yrs), and are to be tested periodically. I think it is imperative to know if the bottle in question 1) had been replaced or refilled,2) had been tested, and 3) was within it's life limit..... We need more information before we draw conculsions!! O2 Bottles:
In small aircraft (a/c), the O2 bottle is often refilled when empty, so the Bottle stays with the a/c. In large airliners, may we assume that the bottle is changed, rather than refilled in situ?
If so, the bottle in question is not “part” of the original airliner, but a replaceable item.
In my [limited] experience, the O2 bottles have a finite life (20 yrs), and are to be tested periodically.
I think it is imperative to know if the bottle in question 1) had been replaced or refilled,2) had been tested, and 3) was within it’s life limit…..
We need more information before we draw conculsions!!

]]> By: NSEU http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/07/26/commwealth-flying/comment-page-1/#comment-230846 NSEU Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:43:51 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4555#comment-230846 "Supposedly independent landing systems"? They _are_ totally independent when the aircraft is landing... Not at 30,000'. "Landing system"? I suppose the average punter is now thinking that the aircraft can't land without these. Emergency door? Sure.. a door to be used in an emergency, but used every day when there isn't an emergency. "The aircraft’s controls were not affected but " Well, at least the normal controls weren't affected... Can they confirm that the backup ones weren't? “Supposedly independent landing systems”?

They _are_ totally independent when the aircraft is landing… Not at 30,000′.
“Landing system”? I suppose the average punter is now thinking that the aircraft can’t land without these.

Emergency door? Sure.. a door to be used in an emergency, but used every day when there isn’t an emergency.

“The aircraft’s controls were not affected but ”

Well, at least the normal controls weren’t affected… Can they confirm that the backup ones weren’t?

]]> By: QF30 Emergency Landing in MNL after door "Popped" - Page 13 - The Australian Frequent Flyer Online Community http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/07/26/commwealth-flying/comment-page-1/#comment-230740 QF30 Emergency Landing in MNL after door "Popped" - Page 13 - The Australian Frequent Flyer Online Community Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:44:53 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4555#comment-230740 [...] A piece of an exploding oxygen tank is believed to have pushed the handle of an emergency door into the opening position, after smashing through the floor on a Qantas flight from Hong Kong. Last Friday a Qantas international jet was forced to make an emergency landing at Manila after a mid-air explosion tore a hole in the plane's fuselage. Passengers were not in danger of the doors opening because they are designed so they cannot be opened mid-flight, The Australian reports today. But after examining photographs, industry observers were surprised the door was pushed into the opening position. "It's an incredibly rare event for the oxygen tank to explode and for it to hit the door handle and rotate it open is just eye-watering," a source told The Australian. The aircraft's controls were not affected but some computer functions and electrics were disrupted, including three of the plane's supposedly independent landing systems. Sources said the emergency descent from 29,000 feet to 10,000 feet took about four minutes. AAP Exploding oxygen tank 'opened emergency door' - National - BrisbaneTimes Wonder whether this is the source mentioned (from pprune) for some of the material in their article... and how reliable and verifiable it is by News Ltd... Commwealth flying | Neptunus Lex [...] [...] A piece of an exploding oxygen tank is believed to have pushed the handle of an emergency door into the opening position, after smashing through the floor on a Qantas flight from Hong Kong. Last Friday a Qantas international jet was forced to make an emergency landing at Manila after a mid-air explosion tore a hole in the plane’s fuselage. Passengers were not in danger of the doors opening because they are designed so they cannot be opened mid-flight, The Australian reports today. But after examining photographs, industry observers were surprised the door was pushed into the opening position. "It’s an incredibly rare event for the oxygen tank to explode and for it to hit the door handle and rotate it open is just eye-watering," a source told The Australian. The aircraft’s controls were not affected but some computer functions and electrics were disrupted, including three of the plane’s supposedly independent landing systems. Sources said the emergency descent from 29,000 feet to 10,000 feet took about four minutes. AAP Exploding oxygen tank ‘opened emergency door’ – National – BrisbaneTimes Wonder whether this is the source mentioned (from pprune) for some of the material in their article… and how reliable and verifiable it is by News Ltd… Commwealth flying | Neptunus Lex [...]

]]> By: Chris Parkes http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/07/26/commwealth-flying/comment-page-1/#comment-230205 Chris Parkes Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:40:32 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4555#comment-230205 What exactly is a "routine air turn back?" Badbob? No U in QANTAS. What exactly is a “routine air turn back?”

Badbob? No U in QANTAS.

]]> By: badbob http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/07/26/commwealth-flying/comment-page-1/#comment-230005 badbob Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:40:37 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4555#comment-230005 Quantas incident #2- Unrelated it appears: http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24092835-5001021,00.html b2 Quantas incident #2- Unrelated it appears:

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24092835-5001021,00.html

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