Comments on: If you don’t believe in something…

By: b2

b2 — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:39:57 +0000

Flit,

1 or 4, what’s the difference? Am I supposed to be outraged? You read my point above. I make no apologies for Cheney not having served- if you will remember, only a small number of that generation (mine & yours) did serve. Therefore, I consider your arguments specious and predictable.

Just what are you going to do when the Bush administration becomes history?

All of us have different expectations for something being “believably real”. Hersh’s fantasies and your unbelievably partisan and strident arguments that run counter to logic and fact consistently astound me.

By: sid

sid — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:29:38 +0000

fitler man, the real history is clear. If leaders strayed from the ROE, it was to save lives.

Doubt that precedent wouldn’t still hold.

Hersh’s “story” of intentionally sacrificing “Seals” is the stuff of a bad Steven Segal script.

By: J.M. Heinrichs

J.M. Heinrichs — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:57:36 +0000

fliterman
Not animosity, disdain. Had Mr Hersh accurate knowledge, he would have not used “PT boats”. In his defense, someone may have fed him a story; however he failed to do the appropriate research. Had he done so, “Boghammer” should have appeared in his article.

Cheers

By: daveg

daveg — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 02:28:46 +0000

Cheney applied for and received five separate Vietnam draft deferments

So Hersh’s story must be true. QED and all that.

By: fliterman

fliterman — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:41:13 +0000

Sid – Thanks for the interesting links. M. Meyers/b2 – FWIW, Cheney applied for and received five separate Vietnam draft deferments Link

By: badbob

badbob — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:22:01 +0000

Mike Meyers,

I think Cheney dropped out of Yale and married Lynn soon after. As I remember it his defferment was because she was pregnant (personally having experienced fatherhood and military service..fatherhood is harder!) . Millions used that along with college deferments AND folks who became teachers and social workers….The times.

Not a lot of honor there but nothing atypical for the times as you can attest I’m sure. What people don’t understand today and what the Dims who use the ChickenHawk argument and all it’s twisted siblings, really don’t understand is that having served in the Guard or the reserve like you, Bush, and Qualye did in the 60’s is rather exceptional public service for that time in American history..Don’t ever mitigate it. 2-3 million vets went through ‘Nam, maybe more. 5-10 million or more were probably in the service then. That’s drop in the bucket compared to all the dam hippies and those dozens of millions who skipped out, bought out, opted out via Canada, went to college or became teachers!