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	<description>The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy!</description>
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		<title>By: RetRsvMike</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/08/05/reinforcing-success/comment-page-1/#comment-234587</link>
		<dc:creator>RetRsvMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t pack away your Cold Warrior gear just yet...

http://www.stratfor.com/geopolitical_diary/geopolitical_diary_decision_time_south_ossetia#top</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t pack away your Cold Warrior gear just yet&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stratfor.com/geopolitical_diary/geopolitical_diary_decision_time_south_ossetia#top" rel="nofollow">http://www.stratfor.com/geopolitical_diary/geopolitical_diary_decision_time_south_ossetia#top</a></p>
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		<title>By: Skippy-san</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/08/05/reinforcing-success/comment-page-1/#comment-234187</link>
		<dc:creator>Skippy-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danger,

      I think the Navy issues with folks who have been to Iraq and Afghanistan are unique to the Navy and have more to do with the fact that the &quot;preferred customers&quot; get opted out of being in the gene pool for IA&#039;s because they are having to meet the requirements of command at sea /Joint to make the wickets for the next higher command. As a result the folks that get sent into the IA pool at higher pay grades are those that are no longer part of the &quot;beautiful people&quot; ( with some exceptions). Now units that havbe done ILO (in Lieu of) deployments, their personnel have faired no better or worse than anyone else in their respective communities. Some communities just make more flags-twas always thus.

A URL officer still has to make the milestones required by his particular community and the Navy should not have to apologize for that. Guys have to do their time at sea. 

The real issue it seems to me-is whether because of the timeline to a particular career event that either makes you a preferred customer or not (e.g. Squadron Command Screen in aviation) if the Navy is trying to stuff too much into one sock.....and perhaps just perhaps,  it needs to allow more time to do all that is expected these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danger,</p>
<p>      I think the Navy issues with folks who have been to Iraq and Afghanistan are unique to the Navy and have more to do with the fact that the &#8220;preferred customers&#8221; get opted out of being in the gene pool for IA&#8217;s because they are having to meet the requirements of command at sea /Joint to make the wickets for the next higher command. As a result the folks that get sent into the IA pool at higher pay grades are those that are no longer part of the &#8220;beautiful people&#8221; ( with some exceptions). Now units that havbe done ILO (in Lieu of) deployments, their personnel have faired no better or worse than anyone else in their respective communities. Some communities just make more flags-twas always thus.</p>
<p>A URL officer still has to make the milestones required by his particular community and the Navy should not have to apologize for that. Guys have to do their time at sea. </p>
<p>The real issue it seems to me-is whether because of the timeline to a particular career event that either makes you a preferred customer or not (e.g. Squadron Command Screen in aviation) if the Navy is trying to stuff too much into one sock&#8230;..and perhaps just perhaps,  it needs to allow more time to do all that is expected these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Danger</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/08/05/reinforcing-success/comment-page-1/#comment-234162</link>
		<dc:creator>Danger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just the Army, folks.   I just left Afghanistan and saw and met (served with) Many NAVY &quot;warriors&quot; who were on second or third deployments with stagnant or dead careers BECAUSE of their deplolyment and service.  Pretty PowerPoint slides still play in the deep blue.   I hope a house cleaning is on it&#039;s way.  A Navy admin message that is unenforcable and ignored by senior line commanders and promotion boards was not the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just the Army, folks.   I just left Afghanistan and saw and met (served with) Many NAVY &#8220;warriors&#8221; who were on second or third deployments with stagnant or dead careers BECAUSE of their deplolyment and service.  Pretty PowerPoint slides still play in the deep blue.   I hope a house cleaning is on it&#8217;s way.  A Navy admin message that is unenforcable and ignored by senior line commanders and promotion boards was not the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: David Curp</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Curp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Lex,

Fair enough - and I gind as a scholar that it is challenging to try to think through what it means to be in a post Cold War situation (and Vlad is making it awful hard to stay with that perception esp. with blasts from the pasts such as... http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/600/42/369557.htm ). I get the idea of bureaucratic rut, and especially that in the military it is necessary to fast track the achievers in combat. And it is not that I feel any nostalgia for the CW at all, but I simply am concerned that the GWOT not become THE model of how we think about the mission of the armed forces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Lex,</p>
<p>Fair enough &#8211; and I gind as a scholar that it is challenging to try to think through what it means to be in a post Cold War situation (and Vlad is making it awful hard to stay with that perception esp. with blasts from the pasts such as&#8230; <a href="http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/600/42/369557.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/600/42/369557.htm</a> ). I get the idea of bureaucratic rut, and especially that in the military it is necessary to fast track the achievers in combat. And it is not that I feel any nostalgia for the CW at all, but I simply am concerned that the GWOT not become THE model of how we think about the mission of the armed forces.</p>
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		<title>By: lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessarily the ability to adapt to COIN so much as the ability to &lt;em&gt;adapt&lt;/em&gt; that&#039;s being rewarded. 

You hardly ever fight the war you&#039;ve prepared for - it&#039;s the force that can quickly adapt to the fight they&#039;re actually in that will win, all other things being equal. OODA, and all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessarily the ability to adapt to COIN so much as the ability to <em>adapt</em> that&#8217;s being rewarded. </p>
<p>You hardly ever fight the war you&#8217;ve prepared for &#8211; it&#8217;s the force that can quickly adapt to the fight they&#8217;re actually in that will win, all other things being equal. OODA, and all that.</p>
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		<title>By: David Curp</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Curp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skippy is quite right about the current bad press for the Cold War - it might do well to remember we actually won that war, nyet? It is awfully frustrating to hear people opine that counter-insurgency is now the end all and be all, so we can scrap concerns over air superiority, sea control, heavy armor etc. and for precisely the reasons Skippy says - not all our would-be enemies (esp. the most important ones) in the world specialize in IEDs, terrorism and guerilla forces. It is also worthwhile to remember that in the Cold War we acquired the tools and habits of thinking and praciticign a global strategy as a global/grand strategy and not just regional strategies/operational approaches stitched together. The last major army that got obsessed with operations over strategy was the German army, and frankly they are not a model, what with having lost two world wars and getting their country cut up into little bits and all.

Of course we shouldn&#039;t &quot;fight the last war&quot;, but we are allowed to learn from it. And it seems to me that Americans have a very dangerous susceptibility to both historical amnesia and tunnel vision that sees what is happening NOW as the next big thing. Along that path lies many nasty surprises.

ps: And by the way Skippy - six of so months back I took umbrage at something you said and stated something to the effect that I didn&#039;t think engaging in discussion with you would be worthwhile - I want to apologize for that. I spoke wrongly and rashly.  I&#039;ve spent some time in the real blogg void over at the Atlantic and realize that whatever disagreements I might have with you are as nothing compared with some on the loony-toons/troll brigade left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skippy is quite right about the current bad press for the Cold War &#8211; it might do well to remember we actually won that war, nyet? It is awfully frustrating to hear people opine that counter-insurgency is now the end all and be all, so we can scrap concerns over air superiority, sea control, heavy armor etc. and for precisely the reasons Skippy says &#8211; not all our would-be enemies (esp. the most important ones) in the world specialize in IEDs, terrorism and guerilla forces. It is also worthwhile to remember that in the Cold War we acquired the tools and habits of thinking and praciticign a global strategy as a global/grand strategy and not just regional strategies/operational approaches stitched together. The last major army that got obsessed with operations over strategy was the German army, and frankly they are not a model, what with having lost two world wars and getting their country cut up into little bits and all.</p>
<p>Of course we shouldn&#8217;t &#8220;fight the last war&#8221;, but we are allowed to learn from it. And it seems to me that Americans have a very dangerous susceptibility to both historical amnesia and tunnel vision that sees what is happening NOW as the next big thing. Along that path lies many nasty surprises.</p>
<p>ps: And by the way Skippy &#8211; six of so months back I took umbrage at something you said and stated something to the effect that I didn&#8217;t think engaging in discussion with you would be worthwhile &#8211; I want to apologize for that. I spoke wrongly and rashly.  I&#8217;ve spent some time in the real blogg void over at the Atlantic and realize that whatever disagreements I might have with you are as nothing compared with some on the loony-toons/troll brigade left.</p>
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