Comments on: Well, hel-lo there http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/08/23/well-hello-there/ The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:43:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Drew C. http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/08/23/well-hello-there/comment-page-1/#comment-239721 Drew C. Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:33:08 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4908#comment-239721 @Byron, Something remarkably similar to this was said during a NATOPS check at the UAV schoolhouse once. The scenario was one of those unwinnable jobs, constructed to see if the neophyte (read: me) could deal with being put into a position where there were no really good answers and things had gone completely sideways. He had asked: "Well, what're you planning to do if something like this happens in the Fleet?" I replied: "Push 'Nav to Coordinate,' 'Camera Guide,' and turn the lights on." In turn, I was asked: "And this gets you what?" "100 lives and infinite missiles." "AT1 Cray," he says with a sigh, "you're really <i>not</i> funny." Figured this was relevant to your PUSH ALL TEH BUTTANS NAO. @Byron,

Something remarkably similar to this was said during a NATOPS check at the UAV schoolhouse once. The scenario was one of those unwinnable jobs, constructed to see if the neophyte (read: me) could deal with being put into a position where there were no really good answers and things had gone completely sideways.

He had asked: “Well, what’re you planning to do if something like this happens in the Fleet?”
I replied: “Push ‘Nav to Coordinate,’ ‘Camera Guide,’ and turn the lights on.”
In turn, I was asked: “And this gets you what?”
“100 lives and infinite missiles.”
“AT1 Cray,” he says with a sigh, “you’re really not funny.”

Figured this was relevant to your PUSH ALL TEH BUTTANS NAO.

]]> By: J.M. Heinrichs http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/08/23/well-hello-there/comment-page-1/#comment-239536 J.M. Heinrichs Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:10:00 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4908#comment-239536 Mike One of the stories: http://www.hindu.com/2003/10/11/stories/2003101104811100.htm I think they're still shopping around. Cheers Mike
One of the stories: http://www.hindu.com/2003/10/11/stories/2003101104811100.htm
I think they’re still shopping around.

Cheers

]]> By: Mike http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/08/23/well-hello-there/comment-page-1/#comment-239320 Mike Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:02:22 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4908#comment-239320 J.M., the program you're talking about was using the relatively ancient HS 748 as its platform, right? That one was shelved after the crash but to my knowledge they've brought the program back in a more limited capacity, planning on using an Embraer commuter as their platform. J.M., the program you’re talking about was using the relatively ancient HS 748 as its platform, right? That one was shelved after the crash but to my knowledge they’ve brought the program back in a more limited capacity, planning on using an Embraer commuter as their platform.

]]> By: Mike http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/08/23/well-hello-there/comment-page-1/#comment-239316 Mike Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:58:43 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4908#comment-239316 Cope India back in...'03, IIRC. The list of things that the Eagles weren't allowed to use was rather long...any sort of external radar support (AWACS or GCI), operating their AESA radars to the highest performance level, Slammers (simulated semi-active Sparrows only for BVR), and very restrictive ROE. Most of the sensationalist news stories at the time reported on the fact that OMG THE F-15 GOT BEAT!!!111, completely ignoring the fact that exercises like this one are never about a true force on force knock down dragout and instead are always carefully crafted to impart training value to both sides. Cope India back in…’03, IIRC. The list of things that the Eagles weren’t allowed to use was rather long…any sort of external radar support (AWACS or GCI), operating their AESA radars to the highest performance level, Slammers (simulated semi-active Sparrows only for BVR), and very restrictive ROE.

Most of the sensationalist news stories at the time reported on the fact that OMG THE F-15 GOT BEAT!!!111, completely ignoring the fact that exercises like this one are never about a true force on force knock down dragout and instead are always carefully crafted to impart training value to both sides.

]]> By: Skippy-san http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/08/23/well-hello-there/comment-page-1/#comment-239271 Skippy-san Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:12:24 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4908#comment-239271 A few years back, there was a story making the rounds that F-15's got waxed by the Indians in an exercise. The explanation at the time was that the F-15's were not using any countermeasures and using other things that they did not want to reveal to the Indians-since they would pass it on to someone we did not want them to. Which is the big risk with India, they want technology from who ever will sell it to them. India as an ally indeed! A few years back, there was a story making the rounds that F-15′s got waxed by the Indians in an exercise. The explanation at the time was that the F-15′s were not using any countermeasures and using other things that they did not want to reveal to the Indians-since they would pass it on to someone we did not want them to.

Which is the big risk with India, they want technology from who ever will sell it to them.

India as an ally indeed!

]]> By: virgil xenophon http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/08/23/well-hello-there/comment-page-1/#comment-239194 virgil xenophon Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:05:23 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=4908#comment-239194 PS: One of my best friends, Col. Tom Lorden, USAF, Ret.was CO of the 414th back in late 70's as lite col. PS: One of my best friends, Col. Tom Lorden, USAF, Ret.was CO of the 414th back in late 70′s as lite col.

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