Neptunus Lex

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• 1 David Curp // Sep 9, 2008 at 6:14 pm

  Just a thought, koledzy,

  In (what is my likely overly hopeful* view of) the decreasing likliehood that he becomes President, I do trust that the One will not allow a Putin or an Ahmadinejad to rattle him as much as an inexperienced Hockey Mom. Just sayin…

  Czesc,

  David

  *But wouldn’t He want us to be hopeful?

  ps: And the “koldedzy/friends” and “czesc/buy” were to help The One feel a little less embarrassed for his monolingual countrymen - and perhaps remind him that around the world there seems to be more O-love to go around - might be a fine idea to vacation abroad to soak it in a few months, n’est pas?

• 2 virgil xenophon // Sep 9, 2008 at 6:40 pm

  Is Obama risking the charge of being a sexist by calling Palin a Pig? I can guarantee you if a Republican had made that statement such a charge would have been floated within nano-seconds.

• 3 Michelle // Sep 9, 2008 at 6:41 pm

  Well, for what it’s worth … I’ve been asked more than once here whom I would vote for in this election. And I must confess that until now I have taken great pleasure in having the luxury of not having to choose, but rather just criticizing whomever as I saw fit. Which seemed a good way to deal with the fact that I really didn’t know how I would vote. If I had to.

  That was then. Now, despite what seems to be the popular opinion among my countrymen (but hey, how accurate are these polls … I mean, they never asked me!), I can finally comfortably take a stand. Believe it or not, it’s McCain. Although I should say, just in the interests of full disclosure, that’s how I would vote presuming I could force my shaking hand to mark an X by a Conservative name. Seeing as how I’ve never done that before. I suppose there’s always the possibility that I might need some medical assistance after leaving the polling station. Nonetheless, that’s how I would vote. Which just goes to show that just about anything’s possible, I suppose.

• 4 Kris, in New England // Sep 9, 2008 at 7:03 pm

  Michelle - congrats on crossing over to the light side! Speaking as a recovering liberal circa 2001, I can relate.

  And - the saying from Ms. Palin was “what’s the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull.”

  Not a pig.

  The least The One could do if he’s going to try skewering someone with their own words, is to get those words right.

  Tool.

• 5 Marianne Matthews // Sep 9, 2008 at 7:12 pm

  Michelle and Kris … somehow I’m not surprised that Obama is so popular in the rest of the world. It’s that “strong horse vs. weak horse” concept that’s so popular in the Mid-East, IIRC. Naturally, a weak horse is so much easier to control. And weak horses of the Obama type are much easier to deceive than crusty old Scotsmen like McCain, who’s been around the track so many times.

  Was it here that I saw that imagined quote from McCain? “Hey Putin … don’t make me come over there. Signed McCain.” Sounds like him, doesn’t it?

  Marianne

• 6 Rivetjoint // Sep 9, 2008 at 7:23 pm

  The One, Himself, Obama bin Biden was most likely planning to run for President of the World after his “8 to 10 years” (as he said) in the White House. Might have to move up running for that gig instead. First problem would be deciding where to locate the Green House - ’cause it won’t be in the USA.

• 7 Jim C // Sep 9, 2008 at 7:30 pm

  If the “world” wants Obama so bad they can have him. As for me, I’ll pass… hopefully America will as well.

  Jim C

• 8 Adeodatus // Sep 9, 2008 at 8:02 pm

  Realism. States act out of their own interest and not the interest of their competitors.

  If the world wants Obama as President, that means Obama is bad for the United States.

• 9 Curtis // Sep 9, 2008 at 8:55 pm

  Michelle,

  Congrats! If you live anywhere around San Diego I would be delighted to carry the extra O2, defib kit, eppie and all that other doctor rescue stuff from good doctor shows and assist you to do the Right thing!

• 10 Edward // Sep 9, 2008 at 8:59 pm

  Adeodatus has nailed it in two succinct sentences.

• 11 craftsman // Sep 9, 2008 at 9:01 pm

  Well DUH!

  If I was in a global competition, I would certainly want the other team to have the worst coach possible.

• 12 John // Sep 9, 2008 at 9:16 pm

  a PIG? One has to ask if the Muslim view that these are unclean (or worse) critters was a consideration in making that remark.

  You know, for the “world” voters and all.

  Amen to “If the world wants Obama as President, that means Obama is bad for the United States.”

• 13 Mongo // Sep 9, 2008 at 9:20 pm

  ‘If the world wants Obama as President…’
  Isn’t it so true that misery loves company…and that so much of the world is truly miserable?

• 14 PeterGunn // Sep 10, 2008 at 12:23 am

  Hey, after-all The One, The Only, The Obama-Man wants “to teach the world to sing.”

  Remember, he thinks our current National Anthem is much to bellicose prefers the National Anthem of Coca-Cola instead: “I Want to Teach The World to Sing”.

  Do you think he’s getting help writing his one-liners? I don’t see how it can get any better than this!

• 15 Michelle // Sep 10, 2008 at 4:26 am

  Not quite sure that I’ve crossed over into the light just yet, Kris. I do know that I won’t be voting Conservative in our own upcoming election. Not quite sure what it will be, but I do know it won’t be those guys.

  But when it comes to the American election, looking at the individuals and positions (or lack thereof) involved … yeah, I’m with ya. And thanks for the offer of medical assistance, Curtis.

• 16 Steve // Sep 10, 2008 at 5:39 am

  “You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig” is a common phrase in today’s language. Calling it a slap against Palin is a stretch and the Repulican demand for an apology is counter-productive. McCain himself used the same expression months ago against the Dems.

  Next.

• 17 Kris, in New England // Sep 10, 2008 at 6:07 am

  Steve: McCain actually used it to describe Hillary’s health care plan back in October 2007. It was a specific statement made about a specific policy of Hillary’s.

  It was not about Hillary herself. It is suspicious use of an old ( and frankly, worn out) expression less than a week after Ms. Palin made her off-the-cuff joke during her Convention speech.

  Apology needed? Probably not. But it goes to Obama’s character…

• 18 Mark Miller // Sep 10, 2008 at 6:45 am

  I really don’ t think the “pig” remark was an intentional slam at Sarah Palin as much as it was a badly timed use of an old saying.

  I do think it was an utterly stupid remark because it’s so easy to spin it as a slam against Palin for those who care to spin it that way. Now Obama has to defend the indefensible where the choice of another word picture would have made his point without all the commotion.

  I do wonder: if Obama boycotts Fox News - moderated debates, makes gaffes (gaffe-o-matic?) like this in public, and can’t hold his own in an interview with Rick Warren or Bill O’Reilly, how’s he gonna do across the table from Vladimir Putin?

• 19 lex // Sep 10, 2008 at 7:24 am

  You know, I think for once I disagree with y’all. The day before Obama’s remark, Missouri Congressman Russ Carnahan introduced Joe Biden, saying, that Palin “zero experience in national government, zero experience in foreign affairs. There’s no way you can dress up that record, even with a lot of lipstick.”

  I think that Obama is a very clever young man who goes so far as to consider himself arch, and that he pitched it to his audience (which tittered at being on the inside of the joke) with the full expectation that the press corps would let him off the hook for what is, after all, a fairly common expression. “Inartful”, I believe, will be the term of art.

  You know, for all the digs against Palin’s experience, the two of them are much the same age. In their eagerness to hear her make gaffes in interviews, they are setting a pretty high standard for themselves. Especially when you throw Joe Biden in the mix.

• 20 badbob // Sep 10, 2008 at 7:51 am

  Hmmm …..so…. what yer suggesting is it’s a collective “Dim-o-cratic Freudian Collective Slip”. But they have all them fancy degrees from Ivy schools don’t they? LOL.

  IMO, they’ve never met a foot big enough that their pie holes can’t accomodate!

  On the other hand if’n they are doing it on purpose one would have to question their “judgement”..And ain’t that what this is all about?

  b2

• 21 RonF // Sep 10, 2008 at 8:31 am

  Michelle:

  “Although I should say, just in the interests of full disclosure, that’s how I would vote presuming I could force my shaking hand to mark an X by a Conservative name.”

  Don’t worry, then. Every ballot I’ve seen will have McCain’s name first, so your “X” will go next to his name, not next to a conservative’s name.

  From the Guardian article:

  Remember, this is a woman who once addressed a church congregation, saying of her work as governor - transport, policing and education - “really all of that stuff doesn’t do any good if the people of Alaska’s heart isn’t right with God”.

  I’m not clear on what the problem is with this.

  Incredibly, that large Berlin crowd damaged Obama at home, branding him the “candidate of Europe” and making him seem less of a patriotic American.

  Incredibly? Has this guy ever been to America and talked to an American who isn’t a diplomat or a media creature?

• 22 Larry // Sep 10, 2008 at 9:29 am

  Has the United States ever voted for a President based on ‘world opinion’? Haven’t we believed, from the founding of our Republic, in American Exceptionalism, that our nation and its government are unique and special, and rather above the political machinations of the vast majority of other nations? That image may be somewhat tarnished and sullied by our periodic flirtation with socialism and political leaders motivated by graft and corruption, but it still exists. And any foreign grandee attempting to sway the American public by appealing to the ‘will of the world’ generally winds up generating the opposite reaction.

  Even if many of our politicians fall far short, we are still a unique Nation, with the highest ideals and the greatest distribution of freedoms and liberties of all types (political, economic, social, etc). Rather than criticizing us for our choices, the world would do well to understand them and do their best to emulate the beliefs that lead to those choices .

• 23 donkey doo // Sep 10, 2008 at 1:07 pm

  You can put lipstick on a kindergarten kid, but that doesn’t mean he/she needs sex education. Can’t it wait until puberty?

  It’s OK to tell them not to let anybody touch their privates, etc., but sex education at 4 or 5 year old? Bull hockey!

• 24 Mongo // Sep 10, 2008 at 6:23 pm

  I agree with you, Lex, that the Chosen One is clever, especially putting the pause after the comment to let the crowd take it and run with it. ‘Uh, Uh, you can’t pin that on me! I’m Patriotic and they’re just making a big deal about it!’. Very clever, indeed…
  I’m impressed that, thus far, there hasn’t been anything out of either of the RNC candidates themselves regarding the remark. Perhaps they’re a bit busy discussing real issues with the folks. He…he…he…

• 25 Skippy-san // Sep 10, 2008 at 6:39 pm

  McCain gets exactly what he wants in this campaign-keep the RF noise level high and prevent burn through.

  Mission Accomplished.

• 26 Nose // Sep 10, 2008 at 6:50 pm

  Frequencies to jam and output power provided by Obama…

• 27 Mongo // Sep 10, 2008 at 6:54 pm

  Skippy & Nose, yeah, that seems about right.

• 28 Skippy-san // Sep 10, 2008 at 7:06 pm

  Nose,

  And who says pilots don’t know anything about radar? I figured you were out playing golf when they gave that class………………

• 29 FlipptyJibbet // Sep 11, 2008 at 4:03 pm

  OMG! Sheeple…
  The complete statement from Obama was: “John McCain says he’s about change, too, and so I guess his whole angle is ‘Watch out, George Bush, except for economic policy, health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics – we’re really going to shake things up in Washington!’ That’s not change … you know, you can put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig.”

  WHERE IS ANYTHING ABOUT PALIN ?

• 30 Scott // Sep 11, 2008 at 4:30 pm

  Just imagine if McCain would have said, “My opponent has no executive experience, no foreign policy experience, has never had to make a tough decision. It is time to call a spade a spade.” Can you just imagine the uproar? Obama knew what he was saying, and what the parallel was. Was it a big deal? No. Did he need to be called on it? Yes.

• 31 Skippy-san // Sep 11, 2008 at 5:13 pm

  If Palin was a man-would there be all this outrage?

  Somehow I doubt it.

• 32 Nose // Sep 11, 2008 at 5:23 pm

  If Obama were a man would there be all this outrage?

  Skip, I’m one of few pilots who didn’t get lost if I took a right instead of a left after stepping into the tube.

  Radar, Radar, PDS, Comm, Nav, IFF.
  RWGB.
  2 to 18.
  XAE, XAA in the air…
  090 load.

  Ask me sometime about the time that Pepe’ and I turned on the stuff we aren’t supposed to turn on without permission. On the Hummer Track.

  Oops.

• 33 Nose // Sep 11, 2008 at 5:28 pm

  So Flippity (love the name, BTW),

  If you are telling me he meant no reference to Palin, then I’m gonna tell you the guy is stupid for not realizing that would cause an uproar, and if he can’t figure THAT out, I sure as hell don’t want him dealing with N. Korea, Iran, or Russia. He will say something stupid (like he did during the “Obama does Europe” tour) and get us into another war.

  Hell, the Dems are screaming about using such racially insensitive terms as “Community Organizer”

  Besides 80% of the Frogs think he should be President. That is reason enough to not vote for him…

• 34 Scott // Sep 11, 2008 at 5:30 pm

  If Palin was a man-would there be all this outrage?

  Only if “he” regularly wore lipstick.

• 35 Michelle // Sep 11, 2008 at 5:46 pm

  But considering the whole context of his comment

  You know, you can put lipstick on a pig,” Obama said, “but it’s still a pig.”
  He added, “You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called ‘change.’ It’s still gonna stink after eight years”.

  is it really that much different than McCain’s reference to Hilary’s policies?

  Frankly, I don’t see it.

• 36 Skippy-san // Sep 11, 2008 at 6:45 pm

  At least you did not knock out Oman’s phone system like I did once:

  “What do you mean we were not supposed to use Channel 8?”

• 37 Justthisguy // Sep 11, 2008 at 7:57 pm

  When I swore th FL voter’s oath by signing the registration form, I, too, swore to defend the Constitution of the USA. Not the constitution of the EU, or the oligarchies of whatever doodah countries happen to be mad at us at the moment.

  I say to all those foreigners; Kiss my American Exceptionalistic Ass!

  P.s. We have all of this lithium deuteride, and it gets stale and decays over time, like all radioactive things, and, uh, ….

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