Comments on: Ouch http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/09/19/ouch-5/ The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:41:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: blackeagle603 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/09/19/ouch-5/comment-page-1/#comment-248923 blackeagle603 Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:43:07 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=5359#comment-248923 SS, I'll just leave quietly then and infer that to discuss the Just War Doctrine would be a waste of Navy chow. SS,
I’ll just leave quietly then and infer that to discuss the Just War Doctrine would be a waste of Navy chow.

]]> By: lex http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/09/19/ouch-5/comment-page-1/#comment-248821 lex Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:00:39 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=5359#comment-248821 Your host might agree with the sympathies expressed, and yet choose to characterize his referral alternately... Your host might agree with the sympathies expressed, and yet choose to characterize his referral alternately…

]]> By: Skippy-san http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/09/19/ouch-5/comment-page-1/#comment-248815 Skippy-san Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:44:13 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=5359#comment-248815 Peter-There's little point in going into a theological debate-it could go on for days, or "ad homnium" as our host refers to it. And in the end we both be wherever we choose to be. Suffice it to say that believing an all loving God supports the mass murder of His children is a leap for me to accept. I can accept, that God weeps when men fight each other, and that some men may be more aligned with His will than others-but then it gets into the question of why He does not intevene to stop it all before it ever begins. For whatever divine reason he has declined to intervene in the affairs of men. And that debate, has been going on for well over 6000 years. Not going to solve it here. Peter-There’s little point in going into a theological debate-it could go on for days, or “ad homnium” as our host refers to it. And in the end we both be wherever we choose to be. Suffice it to say that believing an all loving God supports the mass murder of His children is a leap for me to accept. I can accept, that God weeps when men fight each other, and that some men may be more aligned with His will than others-but then it gets into the question of why He does not intevene to stop it all before it ever begins. For whatever divine reason he has declined to intervene in the affairs of men.

And that debate, has been going on for well over 6000 years. Not going to solve it here.

]]> By: Peter W. http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/09/19/ouch-5/comment-page-1/#comment-248802 Peter W. Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:59:57 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=5359#comment-248802 Skippy wrote: 'Wars are for men’s purposes not God’s.' Well, Skippy, I have to disagree. I believe there have been numerous times in history when Divine Providence has supported organized military effort. In fact, I would go further and say that only an uncaring and unloving G-d would NOT encourage, support, and Bless organized military efforts to stop tyranny and aggression. If Justice and Goodness mean anything to Him that created us, surely He is interested in the effort to defend and advance them. And if He's interested, it's guaranteed He's involved. Dennis Prager once illustrated this quite plainly when he said 'During the Second World War, it was an act of goodness to kill Nazis.' I don't believe G-d is neutral when it comes to cruelty and tyranny. Let us pray always to do His will, and for His guidance and presence. Best regards, Peter Warner. Skippy wrote: ‘Wars are for men’s purposes not God’s.’

Well, Skippy, I have to disagree. I believe there have been numerous times in history when Divine Providence has supported organized military effort.

In fact, I would go further and say that only an uncaring and unloving G-d would NOT encourage, support, and Bless organized military efforts to stop tyranny and aggression. If Justice and Goodness mean anything to Him that created us, surely He is interested in the effort to defend and advance them. And if He’s interested, it’s guaranteed He’s involved.

Dennis Prager once illustrated this quite plainly when he said ‘During the Second World War, it was an act of goodness to kill Nazis.’ I don’t believe G-d is neutral when it comes to cruelty and tyranny.

Let us pray always to do His will, and for His guidance and presence.

Best regards, Peter Warner.

]]> By: Skippy-san http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/09/19/ouch-5/comment-page-1/#comment-248755 Skippy-san Sun, 21 Sep 2008 13:55:49 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=5359#comment-248755 Casey, I've not been reading too many Left behind novels-I just don't subscribe to the idea that God sanctions war. Wars are for men's purposes not God's. Lex does not have the bandwidth or the time to get into a discussion of Just War theory-so its probably best left at that. I will admit though that I heard her differently-and I think her words were carefully chosen. I heard her asking for prayers for the safety of the Soldiers and that the Soldiers <em>individually</em> act in a manner consistent with the will of the Lord. Which to me, is a different thing entirely. I also did not say that Palin espoused the belief-it is just that to me, there was no real reason for Gibson to ask the question-except if he was trying to drive that there was some sort of a divine inspired reason for us to invade Iraq. And he wanted to draw her out into saying that-and she did not. Which leads us back to the first paragraph-when nations go to war they are doing men's business not God's. regards, Casey,

I’ve not been reading too many Left behind novels-I just don’t subscribe to the idea that God sanctions war. Wars are for men’s purposes not God’s. Lex does not have the bandwidth or the time to get into a discussion of Just War theory-so its probably best left at that.

I will admit though that I heard her differently-and I think her words were carefully chosen. I heard her asking for prayers for the safety of the Soldiers and that the Soldiers individually act in a manner consistent with the will of the Lord. Which to me, is a different thing entirely.

I also did not say that Palin espoused the belief-it is just that to me, there was no real reason for Gibson to ask the question-except if he was trying to drive that there was some sort of a divine inspired reason for us to invade Iraq. And he wanted to draw her out into saying that-and she did not.

Which leads us back to the first paragraph-when nations go to war they are doing men’s business not God’s.

regards,

]]> By: Peter W. http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/09/19/ouch-5/comment-page-1/#comment-248739 Peter W. Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:29:37 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=5359#comment-248739 Hugh Hewitt has been covering the uproar that Biden and Pelosci (sp?) have created by their misrepresenting Catholic teaching regarding abortion. Something like over 40 church officials have released public statements directly refuting what they have expressed as sound Catholic thought. Such a massive and direct refutation from church officials is unprecedented, as has defined their (Biden and Pelosci) positions as outside of acceptable church belief. This is not helpful if you want faithful Catholics to vote for you. Gibson strikes me as typical of most media. He has no appreciation or understanding of religious faith, and probably honestly doesn't understand what Governor Palin is trying to explain to him. Neither is he making an honest effort to understand, which is also typical of the inflexible and close-minded mind-set of most liberals/progressives. Main-stream media is a product of academia, which is monolithic in its leftism and liberal fascism. I work in the education community, and almost every single time I've come into conflict with a liberal, I found a wanna-be tyrant with fascist tendencies. The exceptions are notable and rare. Best regards, Peter Warner. (not a Catholic) Hugh Hewitt has been covering the uproar that Biden and Pelosci (sp?) have created by their misrepresenting Catholic teaching regarding abortion. Something like over 40 church officials have released public statements directly refuting what they have expressed as sound Catholic thought. Such a massive and direct refutation from church officials is unprecedented, as has defined their (Biden and Pelosci) positions as outside of acceptable church belief. This is not helpful if you want faithful Catholics to vote for you.

Gibson strikes me as typical of most media. He has no appreciation or understanding of religious faith, and probably honestly doesn’t understand what Governor Palin is trying to explain to him. Neither is he making an honest effort to understand, which is also typical of the inflexible and close-minded mind-set of most liberals/progressives.

Main-stream media is a product of academia, which is monolithic in its leftism and liberal fascism. I work in the education community, and almost every single time I’ve come into conflict with a liberal, I found a wanna-be tyrant with fascist tendencies. The exceptions are notable and rare.

Best regards, Peter Warner.
(not a Catholic)

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