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	<description>The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy!</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/09/26/inherently-unstable/comment-page-1/#comment-253489</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>xairboss,
I got there just as you left.  Quiet that bunch down, you have to be kidding.  Wasn&#039;t much I could do as an E-3 Mech.  I was at the ceremony where Cdr. Fielding got the DFC.  I never did get the exact story of what happened.  By the time I got there, it was pretty much a legend and I was never sure which part was truth and which part was sea story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xairboss,<br />
I got there just as you left.  Quiet that bunch down, you have to be kidding.  Wasn&#8217;t much I could do as an E-3 Mech.  I was at the ceremony where Cdr. Fielding got the DFC.  I never did get the exact story of what happened.  By the time I got there, it was pretty much a legend and I was never sure which part was truth and which part was sea story.</p>
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		<title>By: xairboss</title>
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		<dc:creator>xairboss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Collins:

I hope you calmed them down some.  I was in the same Air Wing with them until May 84.  The Red Lions were the wildest bunch on the ship.

Can&#039;t remember the exact details, but Harv Fielding (CO) did one nifty piece of flying during the Grenada thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Collins:</p>
<p>I hope you calmed them down some.  I was in the same Air Wing with them until May 84.  The Red Lions were the wildest bunch on the ship.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t remember the exact details, but Harv Fielding (CO) did one nifty piece of flying during the Grenada thing.</p>
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		<title>By: sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/preservation/journals/pegasus/pegasus.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some Rotorhead History&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/preservation/journals/pegasus/pegasus.html" rel="nofollow">Some Rotorhead History</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bc,
What squadron?  We might have crossed paths a few times.  I was with HS-15 from May 84- Nov 87.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bc,<br />
What squadron?  We might have crossed paths a few times.  I was with HS-15 from May 84- Nov 87.</p>
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		<title>By: Mongo</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/09/26/inherently-unstable/comment-page-1/#comment-252700</link>
		<dc:creator>Mongo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Mongo likes his baser impulses, Lex! 
I&#039;ll pass along here an oft forwarded story about helicopters and their pilots:
Helicopter flight: A bunch of spare parts flying in close formation.  

Anything that screws its way into the sky flies according to unnatural principals. 
You never want to sneak up behind an old, high-time helicopter pilot and clap your hands. He will instantly dive for cover and most likely whimper...then get up and smack the shit out of you. 

There are no old helicopters lying around airports like you see old airplanes. There is a reason for this. Come to think of it, there are not many old, high-time helicopter pilots hanging around airports either so the first issue is problematic.

You can always tell a helicopter pilot in anything moving: a train, an airplane, a car or a boat. They never smile, they are always listening to the machine and they always hear something they think is not right. Helicopter pilots fly in a mode of intensity, actually more like &quot;spring loaded&quot;, while waiting for pieces of their ship to fall off. Flying a helicopter at any altitude over 500 feet is considered reckless and should be avoided. Flying a helicopter at any altitude or condition that precludes a landing in less than 20 seconds is considered outright foolhardy. 

Remember in a helicopter you have about 1 second to lower the collective in an engine failure before the craft becomes unrecoverable.
Once you&#039;ve failed this maneuver the machine flies about as well as a 20 case Coke machine. Even a perfectly executed autorotation only gives you a glide ratio slightly better than that of a brick. 180 degree auto rotations are a violent and aerobatic maneuver in my opinion and should be avoided.
When your wings are leading, lagging, flapping, precessing and moving faster than your fuselage there&#039;s something unnatural going on. Is this the way men were meant to fly?

While hovering, if you start to sink a bit, you pull up on the collective while twisting the throttle, push with your left foot (more torque) and move the stick left (more translating tendency) to hold your spot. If you now need to stop rising, you do the opposite in that order. Sometimes in wind you do this many times each second. Don&#039;t you think that&#039;s a strange way to fly?

For Helicopters: You never want to feel a sinking feeling in your gut (low &quot;g&quot; pushover) while flying a two bladed under slung teetering rotor system. You are about to do a snap-roll to the right and crash. For that matter, any remotely aerobatic maneuver should be avoided in a Huey.
Don&#039;t push your luck. It will run out soon enough anyway. If everything is working fine on your helicopter consider yourself temporarily lucky. Something is about to break.

Harry Reasoner once wrote the following about helicopter pilots:
&quot;The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by its nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by an incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces and controls working in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. There is no such thing as a gliding helicopter. This is why being a helicopter pilot is so different from being an airplane pilot, and why in generality, airplane pilots are open, clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts and Helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know that if something bad has not happened, it is about to.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Mongo likes his baser impulses, Lex!<br />
I&#8217;ll pass along here an oft forwarded story about helicopters and their pilots:<br />
Helicopter flight: A bunch of spare parts flying in close formation.  </p>
<p>Anything that screws its way into the sky flies according to unnatural principals.<br />
You never want to sneak up behind an old, high-time helicopter pilot and clap your hands. He will instantly dive for cover and most likely whimper&#8230;then get up and smack the shit out of you. </p>
<p>There are no old helicopters lying around airports like you see old airplanes. There is a reason for this. Come to think of it, there are not many old, high-time helicopter pilots hanging around airports either so the first issue is problematic.</p>
<p>You can always tell a helicopter pilot in anything moving: a train, an airplane, a car or a boat. They never smile, they are always listening to the machine and they always hear something they think is not right. Helicopter pilots fly in a mode of intensity, actually more like &#8220;spring loaded&#8221;, while waiting for pieces of their ship to fall off. Flying a helicopter at any altitude over 500 feet is considered reckless and should be avoided. Flying a helicopter at any altitude or condition that precludes a landing in less than 20 seconds is considered outright foolhardy. </p>
<p>Remember in a helicopter you have about 1 second to lower the collective in an engine failure before the craft becomes unrecoverable.<br />
Once you&#8217;ve failed this maneuver the machine flies about as well as a 20 case Coke machine. Even a perfectly executed autorotation only gives you a glide ratio slightly better than that of a brick. 180 degree auto rotations are a violent and aerobatic maneuver in my opinion and should be avoided.<br />
When your wings are leading, lagging, flapping, precessing and moving faster than your fuselage there&#8217;s something unnatural going on. Is this the way men were meant to fly?</p>
<p>While hovering, if you start to sink a bit, you pull up on the collective while twisting the throttle, push with your left foot (more torque) and move the stick left (more translating tendency) to hold your spot. If you now need to stop rising, you do the opposite in that order. Sometimes in wind you do this many times each second. Don&#8217;t you think that&#8217;s a strange way to fly?</p>
<p>For Helicopters: You never want to feel a sinking feeling in your gut (low &#8220;g&#8221; pushover) while flying a two bladed under slung teetering rotor system. You are about to do a snap-roll to the right and crash. For that matter, any remotely aerobatic maneuver should be avoided in a Huey.<br />
Don&#8217;t push your luck. It will run out soon enough anyway. If everything is working fine on your helicopter consider yourself temporarily lucky. Something is about to break.</p>
<p>Harry Reasoner once wrote the following about helicopter pilots:<br />
&#8220;The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by its nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by an incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces and controls working in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. There is no such thing as a gliding helicopter. This is why being a helicopter pilot is so different from being an airplane pilot, and why in generality, airplane pilots are open, clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts and Helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know that if something bad has not happened, it is about to.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Paul.  If you hang around here long enough, you will find that I am basically pretty ignorant and usually have no pecking idea what I&#039;m talking about.

Interesting stuff.

Nose</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paul.  If you hang around here long enough, you will find that I am basically pretty ignorant and usually have no pecking idea what I&#8217;m talking about.</p>
<p>Interesting stuff.</p>
<p>Nose</p>
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