Comments on: GW Findings http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/10/04/gw-findings/ The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy! Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:11:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Drew C. http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/10/04/gw-findings/comment-page-1/#comment-257848 Drew C. Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:26:13 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=5568#comment-257848 Process: 1. Pillory the people responsible (the ones with their names redacted) in front of the Navy Exchange so that passersby can pelt them with rotten fruit and vegetables. 2. Bring back public flogging. Yardarm hangings, too. 3. Put their pictures in every schoolhouse, every boot camp, and every damage control locker with a statement of why those things are there. 4. Learn and never let this happen again. Process:
1. Pillory the people responsible (the ones with their names redacted) in front of the Navy Exchange so that passersby can pelt them with rotten fruit and vegetables.
2. Bring back public flogging. Yardarm hangings, too.
3. Put their pictures in every schoolhouse, every boot camp, and every damage control locker with a statement of why those things are there.
4. Learn and never let this happen again.

]]> By: Subsunk http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/10/04/gw-findings/comment-page-1/#comment-257778 Subsunk Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:22:17 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=5568#comment-257778 Lucky those four guys in the pump room were saved, especially when two cutting torch kits didn't work. If at first you don't succeed, try, try, try, and try some more. I know RADM Drennan. Smart guy, very calm demeanor. He seems to have done a good job with this investigation. Your observations about loading up the force with work and making them do more with less is correct. We're going to have more accidents if we don't quit trying to do literally EVERYTHING on the scheap. And the fact that a space with bulkheads from the 6th deck to the O-2 level isn't at least on a watchstanders inspection log is a crime. The EA-03 folks obviously didn't have good leadership, and the fact that DC equipment wasn't in good shape or was imperfectly utilized is a pretty hefty ding, but it appears the crew did a reasonable job, given all the reports you typically hear over the sound powered phones in these cases, fighting a bad fire. They didn't shine. But they didn't let anyone get killed either. This could have been a helluva lot worse. Subsunk Lucky those four guys in the pump room were saved, especially when two cutting torch kits didn’t work. If at first you don’t succeed, try, try, try, and try some more.

I know RADM Drennan. Smart guy, very calm demeanor. He seems to have done a good job with this investigation. Your observations about loading up the force with work and making them do more with less is correct. We’re going to have more accidents if we don’t quit trying to do literally EVERYTHING on the scheap.

And the fact that a space with bulkheads from the 6th deck to the O-2 level isn’t at least on a watchstanders inspection log is a crime.

The EA-03 folks obviously didn’t have good leadership, and the fact that DC equipment wasn’t in good shape or was imperfectly utilized is a pretty hefty ding, but it appears the crew did a reasonable job, given all the reports you typically hear over the sound powered phones in these cases, fighting a bad fire. They didn’t shine.

But they didn’t let anyone get killed either. This could have been a helluva lot worse.

Subsunk

]]> By: Maritime Monday 130 | gCaptain.com http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/10/04/gw-findings/comment-page-1/#comment-257691 Maritime Monday 130 | gCaptain.com Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:29:41 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=5568#comment-257691 [...] Lex has the report and fallout of the fire on the Aircraft Carrier GEORGE [...] [...] Lex has the report and fallout of the fire on the Aircraft Carrier GEORGE [...]

]]> By: Byron Audler http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/10/04/gw-findings/comment-page-1/#comment-257432 Byron Audler Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:08:21 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=5568#comment-257432 An uptake that runs from the sixth deck up to the 0-8? is not a "vestigal" space. I've crawled uptakes on Sara and Fid, and they take a pretty fair size amount of space. Donkey or auxillary boiler, on the other hand, wouldn't be as large, maybe 4' diameter, vice twice that for a steam powered CV. And I truly hate uptakes :) An uptake that runs from the sixth deck up to the 0-8? is not a “vestigal” space. I’ve crawled uptakes on Sara and Fid, and they take a pretty fair size amount of space. Donkey or auxillary boiler, on the other hand, wouldn’t be as large, maybe 4′ diameter, vice twice that for a steam powered CV. And I truly hate uptakes :)

]]> By: Curtis http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/10/04/gw-findings/comment-page-1/#comment-257430 Curtis Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:01:21 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=5568#comment-257430 I recall the vestigal space on 1st ship... a 2 cell brig below A-gang berthing side by side with the forward EDG. I recall the vestigal space on 1st ship… a 2 cell brig below A-gang berthing side by side with the forward EDG.

]]> By: Byron Audler http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/10/04/gw-findings/comment-page-1/#comment-257292 Byron Audler Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:54:42 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=5568#comment-257292 "vestigal spaces"? That's just dumb. Supercarriers might just be the largest ships afloat, but they are always short of space to work in. “vestigal spaces”? That’s just dumb. Supercarriers might just be the largest ships afloat, but they are always short of space to work in.

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