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		<title>By: Flatlander</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/10/19/pome/comment-page-1/#comment-266633</link>
		<dc:creator>Flatlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Greeks, the Romans, the Franks, and now the British..</description>
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		<title>By: Looking Glass</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/10/19/pome/comment-page-1/#comment-266287</link>
		<dc:creator>Looking Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OriginalFrank wrote, &quot;&lt;i&gt;It is hard to imagine how things don’t “end” with blood in the streets.&lt;/i&gt;

  Prince Charles converts to Islam and ascends the throne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OriginalFrank wrote, &#8220;<i>It is hard to imagine how things don’t “end” with blood in the streets.</i></p>
<p>  Prince Charles converts to Islam and ascends the throne.</p>
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		<title>By: km</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/10/19/pome/comment-page-1/#comment-266225</link>
		<dc:creator>km</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love watching how these threads meander from the original post&#039;s intent...as interesting as pursuing a debate over whom colonized where, when and to what enduring effect, might be, I&#039;d like to comment on the adoption issue.  

While I agree that there is something truly sad about a child&#039;s future being decided based on identity politics; I am also baffled by would-be parents who by-pass equally needy children living in their own country.  

I know couples who have &#039;shopped&#039; (and are currently shopping) around to see which countries have the easiest and most affordable adoption procedures, who have compared the health &#039;quality&#039; of the children available for adoption, debated which country&#039;s children are most deserving of being saved, etc.  When the Iraq war began, I predicted that the Middle East would become the next adoption hot spot once rebuilding was well underway.  

It is clear that many of these couples (the ones I know) like the idea of acquiring a child (I should say, explicitly a baby) who can be stripped of its history--very little chance that the Chinese, or Thai, or Guatemalan, or Russian, etc., etc., biological mother or father or siblings may one day appear on the doorstep--an increasing likelihood when adopting in the US.  

 In this sense, I can understand some of the concerns of adopting countries regarding whether the child will have some notion of their cultural heritage made available to them--which is very different from saying that I support the case described.  Clearly there is a huge divide between educating a child about their ancestry versus dictating how a child will be raised.

Still, the whole foreign adoption process reduces children to commodities in ways that are unsettling to me.  I guess I wish, as far as adoption goes, it would become trendy to &quot;buy American&quot; and consider older children, not just infants or toddlers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love watching how these threads meander from the original post&#8217;s intent&#8230;as interesting as pursuing a debate over whom colonized where, when and to what enduring effect, might be, I&#8217;d like to comment on the adoption issue.  </p>
<p>While I agree that there is something truly sad about a child&#8217;s future being decided based on identity politics; I am also baffled by would-be parents who by-pass equally needy children living in their own country.  </p>
<p>I know couples who have &#8216;shopped&#8217; (and are currently shopping) around to see which countries have the easiest and most affordable adoption procedures, who have compared the health &#8216;quality&#8217; of the children available for adoption, debated which country&#8217;s children are most deserving of being saved, etc.  When the Iraq war began, I predicted that the Middle East would become the next adoption hot spot once rebuilding was well underway.  </p>
<p>It is clear that many of these couples (the ones I know) like the idea of acquiring a child (I should say, explicitly a baby) who can be stripped of its history&#8211;very little chance that the Chinese, or Thai, or Guatemalan, or Russian, etc., etc., biological mother or father or siblings may one day appear on the doorstep&#8211;an increasing likelihood when adopting in the US.  </p>
<p> In this sense, I can understand some of the concerns of adopting countries regarding whether the child will have some notion of their cultural heritage made available to them&#8211;which is very different from saying that I support the case described.  Clearly there is a huge divide between educating a child about their ancestry versus dictating how a child will be raised.</p>
<p>Still, the whole foreign adoption process reduces children to commodities in ways that are unsettling to me.  I guess I wish, as far as adoption goes, it would become trendy to &#8220;buy American&#8221; and consider older children, not just infants or toddlers.</p>
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		<title>By: Zane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Used by transient fishermen is not the same as settled by.  And for all the bugbears of Calvinism, its stoic descendants did a lot more to conquer America than the Portuguese or Spanish ever did.  And finally, when it comes to religious tolerance I point you to the colony of Rhode Island and the strange career of Roger Williams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Used by transient fishermen is not the same as settled by.  And for all the bugbears of Calvinism, its stoic descendants did a lot more to conquer America than the Portuguese or Spanish ever did.  And finally, when it comes to religious tolerance I point you to the colony of Rhode Island and the strange career of Roger Williams.</p>
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		<title>By: Taxi1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taxi1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The original colonists on these fair shores left England to escape the religious persecution of the Church of England.&lt;/i&gt;

I think they came over to practice their own form of religious intolerance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The original colonists on these fair shores left England to escape the religious persecution of the Church of England.</i></p>
<p>I think they came over to practice their own form of religious intolerance.</p>
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		<title>By: OriginalFrank</title>
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		<dc:creator>OriginalFrank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to say, the historical England appears just about gone.

The future is a rapidly-growing immigrant by-and-large militant  Islamic population with a thin overlay of politically correct governance.  That governance will come tumbling down, either crumbling under failed legitimacy due to assaults like this, or more radically.

It is hard to imagine how things don&#039;t &quot;end&quot; with blood in the streets.

Maybe that is why the historic British population has been disarmed -- it makes things less messy in the end state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to say, the historical England appears just about gone.</p>
<p>The future is a rapidly-growing immigrant by-and-large militant  Islamic population with a thin overlay of politically correct governance.  That governance will come tumbling down, either crumbling under failed legitimacy due to assaults like this, or more radically.</p>
<p>It is hard to imagine how things don&#8217;t &#8220;end&#8221; with blood in the streets.</p>
<p>Maybe that is why the historic British population has been disarmed &#8212; it makes things less messy in the end state.</p>
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