Question: What do you call a naval officer who alledgedly faked a physically disabling head injury during the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon in order to 1) claim a $330,000 stake of the victim’s compensation fund, and 2) earn a Purple Heart and Meritorious Service Medal, who 3) went on two months later to run the New York marathon in less than four hours and continued to play lacrosse and basketball?
Answer: The accused.
If found guilty – and only then – we’ll have another word for him entirely. RetRsvMike will be allowed to do the honors.
The feds are going after his house. Nice digs.
Do they break his sword? Cut off his buttons? Shoot him? What?
Where do we find such men?
Maybe not as important as where we’ll put them.
…pending the conclusion of the Grand Jury, thence to any trial, thence to my prompt declaration of verdict..
Nice to see you Navy boys know how to deal with a worthless piece of shit like this.
Those of us who wear a lighter shade of blue? Not so much.
(If you’re confused as to my implication, just google “Jill Metzger.”)
What do you call a naval officer who alledgedly faked a physically disabling head injury during the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon…
Well, I have several things in mind, none of which are necessary Christian, much less printable here.
- SJS
Yeah, buttons, epaulets, sword, the whole 9 yards on the steps of the Pentagon in front of his peers, and then send his sorry ass to jail. Let’s hope when he gets there that he his new room mate is waiting on him.
Uh, let’s see- faked injury, lotsa cash, nice houses…
Could we call him a Democrat Presidential Candidate?
My taxpayer dollars are too valuable to be spent on his prison sentence. I think that a “volunteer” expeditionary unit should be formed with this moron and the other 9/11 frauds we have had here in NJ/NY (including one who fraudulently fundraised for his own 9/11 charity) and drop them off somewhere near Tora Bora with just the clothes on their backs.
Since he has not yet been convicted, this slimeball probably had the opportunity to vote for his natural preference for CiC… who will now pardon him and grant him the same kind of Honorable Discharge that Jimmy Peanut gave John the 90-Day War Hero.
Maybe we could have a “Swearing Out” ceremony. Ya’ know, the opposite of Swearing In.
He gets to stand up there in front of the formation, and the Senior Officer cusses at him between reading charges and specifications and shouting “GUILTY!”
All the while, the most junior seaman recruit present slowly, in good order and with due ceremony, rips each US button, stripe and ribbon off of his clothing, until it’s nothing but a funny-looking suit of rags.
Oh, yeah, somebody then grabs his sword, breaks it over the knee, and the critter is ass-kicked out of the place.
How’s that for letting him know what you think of him?
Is keel-hauling a possible punishment?
Hanging is too good for some folks….
Hats off to the Navy for doing it right.
USAF? No
http://worldwidewarpigs.blogspot.com/2008/10/metzger-fiasco-symbol-of-poor.html
How about he stand in front of a courtroom of his peers – those truly and legitimately wounded – emotionally, physically – on 9/11. Families who lost their loved ones. People whose lives will truly be forever altered. Let him stand in front of them and explain his actions, what motivated his decisions to be a total, utter and complete asshole.
Those people deserve their pound of flesh from scum like this. Everyday he perpetrated his charade on the world, he diminshed the true victims of 9/11. Let them decide his punishment – then let the Navy carry it out, with extreme prejudice.
..perhaps upon arrival at the Grey Bar Hotel, he shall meat his new roommate, and again be in-dicted.
I like Marvin’s idea. Keel-haul him, but lets use an aircraft carrier.
The ABA inadvertently has it right- “Ex-Navy Commander” AKA P.O.S.
The WaPo link in the story had more:
“He told a magazine writer that he started to flee after the attack but ran back inside the Pentagon to help extinguish flames and escort co-workers to safety.”
Anybody believe that? Someone here probably knows him. What was his designator?
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Submariner, I gather.
Phew, boy I’m glad of that. I couldn’t take another embarassing helo pilot named Coughlin. Now what was his commissioning source?
Guess the nuke power bonus ran out…….
Craig,
I used to work for a helo pilot named Coughlin. What airframe/squadron? Relevant to my interests.
Paula. I only worshiped from afar. Nose and Skippy knew her much better than I did.
Oh…that helo pilot Coughlin. I see. I thought you were referring to a different one. Thanks for the prompt reply, though.
Also, one thinks you might be implying that Nose and Skippy were in the hall that fateful evening. I could be trolling here though, I’ll step carefully.
I’m almost certainly sure they were not in the hall that night. But they’ve ranted–hilariously– about her on this very blog, if you can believe that. All other Coughlin I know have served honorably–including an enlisted EOD type I went to college with who then went Special Warfare…
A qualification: It’s above my paygrade–to quote a great American– to characaterize Paula Coughlin’s service as dishonorable, and I didn’t intend to do so. But I was embarassed by her, which is my right as an American and a helo pilot.
To both Nose and Skippy – I just realized that the comment I made could be taken the wrong way. I wasn’t attempting to imply that either one of you gentlemen were responsible for what happened, perhaps that you were there but certainly not participating.
Please accept my most sincere apology, I’d not call the integrity of either of you into question.
Craig: the one that I knew was a CO (since moved on) and detachment OIC. I was never personally deployed with him, but I have friends who were and say he was a little difficult to talk to some times – mainly because he demanded a correct answer based on fact and not on conjecture or opinion. That being said, the widely held opinion was he is a good stick, a fair leader, and an excellent CO to work for. Hence why I was a little shocked that you may have been referring to the man I knew in your previous post.
No, Drew I don’t know that guy. Sounds like a good skipper to me. I’m thinking you came outta the HSL community. True or am I confusing you with another Drew? I came outta the other end of the helo spectrum, HC/cats and dogs, and there wasn’t much overlap between those worlds. Though my on- wing instructor– a very patient fellow– was an H-2 guy. I was able to convince him to take my best friend and college roommate under his wing also. Truth be told my buddy was the best natural stick I ever saw. He flipped a coin between jets and helos, got helos and inherited my on wing, who, recognizing his skills, promptly recruited him into H-2s. ( LT Dave Babcock told me, ‘I never saw Fred get flustered, on Fam 1 he was hovering better than some of our instructors’.) Then Fred cruised onboard USS Stark. The first exocet that hit the ship exploded directly over his rack. But he was in the wardroom watching a Chuck Norris movie, “Invasion USA.”
Okay, I’ll stop hijacking the thread and go away now…
Craig: Yep, I’m the HSL guy. I like you HC guys plenty, even though the community has morphed out of the H-46 and into HSC and the new MH-60S. I especially like you HC folks because one of your crewman (time and place will go unmentioned) “accidentally deposited” a package containing a cardboard box on our flight deck as a part of a VERTREP once. Seems one of the aircrew from that detachment knew one of the people on my detachment. Anyway, the package may or may not have contained six aluminum cylinders of a certain Dutch-brewed barley soda cooled to just above the freezing point of water. Then again, I may not have even been there at the time, and most certainly did not consume any of said liquid whilst underway.
One of my old detachment OIC’s was an H-2 pilot before making the jump to the SH-60B after the first Gulf War as a Lieutenant Junior Grade. He likened the difference between the SH-2G and the SH-60B as that you’d find in when comparing a Ferrari and a Ford Aerostar.
Said that the H-2 was temperamental, required a lot of maintenance, but was a riot to fly. The 60B on the other hand was easier to deal with from a maintenance perspective, but sort of plodded through the air.
As far as your friend goes, Chuck Norris obviously knew this would happen and engineered the entire thing from Texas. Such is his power. Cue the Tabasco-brand Chuck Norris eye drops, fist under the beard jokes. Seriously though, he’s lucky he was in the wardroom at the time. I think if I was him, I’d avoid Vegas, the lottery, risky investments, and flee immediately every time someone said “hey, watch this.” Meaning that one event may have kicked over the luck bucket in a single go.
Next, I’m thinking that we’re not doing any damage to the thread. We likely exhausted all of the various dirty names you can call someone in polite company well above. As far as the original topic is concerned: yet another reason why I believe we need to bring back public flogging.
I wasn’t there, as far as you know.
Unless you have pictures, I have nothing to say.
If you have pictures, lets meet for beer. I’ll buy.
I heard Skippy was there, though. He was Ghandi’s assistant.
Drew,
“Meaning that one event may have kicked over the luck bucket in a single go.”
A good theory, but no– he flew through power lines in a Cessna as a 17 year-old. Then after Stark,
he married a redhead. Now that may have done it because I haven’t heard from him in years. I guess he was asking for it.
I only aspired to fly H-46’s–time was not on my side. I flew from the cats and dogs end of the HC puzzle–H-1s in VXE-6. But my instructors and mentors– save a couple– were 46 pilots. Good sticks with poor military bearing that all got passed over for 0-5. Some for 0-4. Maybe I shouldna hung around so much with the latter group.
As for the thread, you’re right, the Skipper (Lex)can take it back if he wants, but he probably doesn’t care. I mean he’s got that (ret) after his handle an all.
So were you east or west ’60’s? We probably know some of the same people, though they’d probably have to be waterboarded to admit it.
Nose,
I do have some pictures–don’t remember where I got ‘em. No facial features can be descerned, though a name tag clearly says: HUBER. Any thoughts?
Craig: West coast. Concur with your statements about waterboarding. Also, I’m starting to get a little weirded out here because I did a detachment with an airframer who wintered over (twice) with VXE-6 (mid to late 90’s) before they went out of business.
With regard to the getting passed over for O-4/O-5, say it ain’t so! Them tailhook fellers getting all the attention and the love? Surely you jest.
That same H-2 turned 60B OIC I had a habit of lecturing us when we messed up. (For instance, when I accidentally hot miked about three solid minutes of obscenity over battlegroup common. Chalk that up to hooking your belt loop on some switches at the heart of problems with several mods to the HF secure system in the 60B that never worked and did hinky things to the UHF/VHF radios and ICS depending on what BUNO you’re talking about.) He’d tap his flight suit pocket and tell us:
“You guys know what you’re doing right? I’ll never get to use my O-5 acceptance speech if you keep this stuff up.”
He’s an O-5 now, but I’m disappointed he got the silver bits when I wasn’t around. I really wanted to hear that speech.
Drew,
I still have nighmares about our AMS’s– I feel your pain if you had to associate with one. Our AD’s were almost as bad. Shit, even our AZ’s looked liked Hell’s Angels. Salt of the earth, the lot of them. Few of them made chief, though. A pattern develops…
Craig: Ours was an AMS. Fairly husky guy of average height. Huge head. Always kept his head shaved as well.
Anyway, he’d periodically suffer from what we referred to as “Brain Freeze.” We figured he had freezer burn of the noggin while down there. He’d periodically lock up and start staring off into space. At that point you could sneak up on him and yell his name about three or four times, he would suddenly snap out of it and ask you accusingly: “WHAT?” He’d just go back to work, do it all over again about three hours later.
Wasn’t seizures. Chief had sent him to medical before we left. Nothing wrong with the guy, just very, very, strange.
PH for 9-11…just imagine the laughter that would (and should) elicit in…well…just about anywhere except a kum-bi-ya gathering. Kinda like the guy who dove under the bunk on top of fluorescent bulbs/lamps during a rkt attack. Who in the wide world would admit it?
Drew you just described every man in VXE-6. We had some women too, they defy description.
I’m flabbergasted Lex….Still water here. This is one smart resume-puppy, poly sci into submariner into MBA at “H”..Looks like he may have been FOSd..Ahhh..who cares..a POS is a POS.
“B.S., U.S. Naval Academy, Political Science, 1981 M.B.A., Harvard University Graduate School of Business, General Managment, 1998″
This guy should be keel-hauled for real unless he has a legitimate mental illness….
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Craig,
We’ve had 2 Hubers in the Hawkeye community.
One was very much loved.
The other, very much a candidate for fragging.
Nose,
Was the good Huber at Whiting field as an instructor in 1984-85?
Nose,
And might that one be over at mil.com? He is an odd duck, even for an E-2 guy (just kidding)!. How did a mil officer ever get an attitude like that? FOSd or DADT? Reminds me of Dennis Kucinich/Woody Allen clone. He thinks he’s funny and smart- not. Rather, he’s a retired Navy version of Herr Keith Olberman. Funny how some folks who went to NWC and learned about the Peloponisian War think they’re experts on defense…Or others think they are.
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b2 — said subject was in my airwing in ‘79. Usually seen having wardroom discussions with himself, since no one could stand him. Opinionated and stupid is a potent combination.
Nose/ Skippy/ SJS — how in the name of Grandpa Pettibone did he ever screen?
b2 – I don’t hang at Mil.com much (pls don’t tell Mooch). But if you are talking about Jeff, yep that’s him. I know several guys that worked for him at 124 and not one of them has anything good to say. Additionally, at least two community hard chargers had their careers ended on his watch.
Scott- While we have many great current and past COs, the E2 community has never placed much on emphasis on “Leadership” when selecting our leaders. We pick a lot of “hard workers” and guys that are good in the back of the airplane.
(Stepping up on soapbox)
Way too many E2 COs have the attitude of “Lets give everyone a chance in front of the Command Screen Board” instead of picking the best of the best, making them stand out, and culling those that need to be culled. The net result is our COs are chosen by the random members of the command screen board instead of the community.
Some of our best never had a chance because they got FITREPS that didn’t stand out enough.
(Steps off of soapbox and mumbles “Sorry…”)
BTW – This rant ain’t any kind of sour grapes thing. I was out as a LT, before I ever came close to a Screen. And after looking at the great guys that didn’t screen, I wouldn’t have had a chance.
Craig, my son-in-law was an AD on P-3’s to start, then over to H-2s, and when that eased out, to -60s, then to S-3s, and then made Chief. His last hitch will be at AIMD Mayport. He isn’t crazy by any stretch, but his boys understand that you cross him at your peril, because he WILL get you, and it WON’T be pretty. One boy was decided to be terminal, and spent the last six months of his enlistment cleaning flight line latrines under the personal supervision of the AD1 (just prior to capping). He was learning to be a chief even then