RUSSIAN ANALYST PREDICTS DECLINE AND BREAKUP OF USA
A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts…
When asked who would replace the U.S. in regulating world markets, he said: “Two countries could assume this role: China, with its vast reserves, and Russia, which could play the role of a regulator in Eurasia…”
He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts – the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.
He even suggested that “we could claim Alaska – it was only granted on lease, after all.”
I wouldn’t count on it, bud. Authoritarian tyrannies have counted us out before, and found out to their surprise that we don’t go down easy, and we always get back up again.
And so long as Sarah Palin remains governor of Alaska, I recommend you stay in barracks. She’s watching you.
Madre de Dios! Who woulda thunk we’re losing Aztlan to the Chinese?
Nichevo novovo nyet!
Guy must have been reading Joel Garreau’s 1981 book “The Nine Nations of North America.” Made his own mod., looks like.
Please, please, Schadenfreude, please. It hurts.
Ivan’s vodka factories must be having a good year.
Тень радости
Texas is looking better all the time, right?! A friend who lives there just sent a note saying we’d all be welcome.
Excuse me? “… five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong. ” Growing up as I did in Buffalo, N.Y., I suspect Canada has a significant inferiority complex as regards the U.S.A. Besides they have a huge problem with their Mulim population in Quebec. With regards to the large Native American population in the Mid-West – WHAT large Native American population? We have competing Native American Casinos here in Wisconsin and the huge Seneca population in Western New York (with cheap cigarettes and gasoline) but I don’t think the total population of such tribes make more than 20% of the rest of us.
Must be nice to live in La-La Land.
Doesn’t Texas’ Constitution give it the right to sub-divide into 5 separate States?
Wow, those predictions are pretty pessimistic.
Do you think its even possible for the US to want to split up in a time of economic hardship?
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Virgil: alternatively, he could have been reading Heinlein’s book “Friday”.
This guys description of the various parts of our union is priceless ignorance of America.
Have y’all ever seen that movie “Red Dawn” where the Wolverines are hiding in the vicinity of a Soviet patrol at a national Monument (looks like Kit Carson). A Russian infantryman goes on a disertation acting like he could speak/read English while the Soviet’s viewed the monument. When his friend picks up a hunting brodhead left at the scene and presents it to him the Russian says it was left duringthe American “Indian Wars”. When confronted on the nock material being plastic he claimed it was “highly polished bone”.
This Russian analyst has the same feel for America as that fictional Russian soldier in the movie.
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This is a joke right? From the Onion?
That an intelligent thinking ‘worldly’ person could think things so ridiculous is astounding.
I have a lot of friends from TX and I wasn’t aware that there is a movement under foot to become independent.
The only thing I agree with is that come Spring people will realize that Obama will not be providing any miracles. But even then, with our media being so in love with him, it could take longer.
Good Lord. And this man is paid?
just in case you “really” wanted to know it’s злорадство
Lit: “Злостая утеха”
- SJS
OooH!
So far we have tranlsations back into English as follows: “shadow joy”, “malevolence” and “anger joy”.
-SJBill
Nah, we Texans get riled up now and then, but we’d never leave the Union or split into five states. We’re still fashed about giving up so much land to enter the Union the first time.
HOWEVER, try to take our guns and there will be terrible trouble. We’ve already had one dictator who tried it.
Obviously, this clown has never seen Rocky IV.
The nerve of some people, hmph…
Now we know why their politics are so mixed up. After all, this is “a leading Russian political analyst” giving his informed opinion.
It might be worthwhile, however, to see the Russkies show up to foreclose on their “lease ” of Alaska. I suspect that la belle Palin would kick their collective a$$es!
add “malicious joy” to the mix…
- SJS
“malicious” or “evil” joy is the most direct translation of schadenfreude. It’s simply the feeling of joy seeing someone else’s misfortune, often because it was self inflicted. I spoke German, since I lived in the land of the Deutch. I never went to Ivanland, so can’t tell you what the Russky equivalent is. We use the German, because we don’t have a single term for it.
I wouldn’t be too quick to ridicule the Russian’s prediction of political breakup. One can carry on about it, but there are serious cracks in the body politic. If you see a place you’d like to live, I would strongly suggest you move while you can, if you can. Economic and political stress has been known to sunder countries, and the US has long had weak adhesion between regions. Regionalism broke the south off 148 years ago. Tariffs were in the interest of the northeast, but tariffs on textile processing equipment, and other things, was one of the major causes of the war between the states. We are at the beginning of similar problems and the competition will get nasty before it’s over. Add the fact that two regions of the country can only be regarded as politically insane, and you get a volatile mix.
Every once in awhile, somebody here in Texas tries to relive the glory of the Republic. They’re all full of piss and vinegar and secession until the Texas Rangers show up. Rule number one when picking a fight here: don’t piss off the Rangers.
The last shindig took place about a decade ago in the Davis mountains of west Texas, the type of terrain most people only see in the movies, it truly being no country for old men. Now the culprits are spending their free time in prison.
Hey Ivan…
I got yer “breakup” right here, buddy….
How do you say rooskie sumbitch in Ivanspeak?
Think Russians are tough? Just try driving your tanks through Brooklyn. Keep moving, too, ’cause if you park it, it’ll be up on blocks and stripped clean by dawn.
I think he’s been reading the New York Times and too many books about what’s wrong with Kansas. Fact of the matter is, while coastal states with their large population centers could, possibly, be isolated into their own blocks the midwest is not so fractured.
I’d predict a return to states rights rather than a complete breakup of the Union, with states acting in concert against each other. Sort of like the EU, only without the silly facade of a union.
– Max
Quartermaster, objection: in Germany “Schadenfreude” is only used in a context of rivalry.
The feeling of joy seeing someone else’s misfortune would not merit that term, it would just be considered weird or evil.
Schadenfreude is considered all too human, but a bad habit in a case of competition or already exisitng fiendishness. E. g. you would not want to show it at the workplace, because your colleagues and boss might think you are driving the rat-race too far.
To me, that seems to be the case with the Russian analysts, up to the point of delusion.
That would be the Sarah Palin who’s husband belongs to a separatist organisation?
I know, my wife belongs to a gardening club. Secretly, I doubt their loyalties.
But she’s my wife. Whattayagonnado?
my wife is a card carrying member of Sam’s Club…
now i’m starting to have my doubts about it too.
Graham,
It would be the same Sarah Palin, except that her husband does NOT belong to a separatist group, despite all the wishful thinking and fabrications of the Kossites and other delusional types.
Folks who believe such nonsense are likely also to be twoofers, supporters of “Moon Hoax” theories and other such easily disprovable postulations.
Lex and virgil … Got curious about the claim that the Texas Constitution [the one Texas had during the nine years it was a Republic] had a provision that Texas could be subdivided into 5 states, so I checked with my own private Texas history expert, my husband. He says that yes, it did have such a provision. When Texas joined the United States, and gave up its sovereignty as a Republic, it apparently gave up that right.
And by the way, the pseudo-expert Russian pontificator who claims that the U. S. has Alaska only “on lease” is wrong-wrong-wrong. [No surprise there]. William Seward, Secretary of State under President Lincoln, paid I think 20 million dollars to purchase Alaska from the Russians, and garnered a fair amount of disapproval from American citizens for doing so.
A fair number of American citizens of the “lower 48″ are still disapproving, but for different reasons.
I do wish foreigners would stop pontificating about the U.S. It’s flat-out annoying.
Marianne
Marianne,
Thank you so much for forwarding to me a copy of your husband’s article. It is indeed well written and nicely presented.
If you ever get up to Maine, give me a shout. Perhaps it’s all that Texas blood still in me that makes these winters seem so cold of late
Regarding the so-called “lease” of Alaska. The treaty is available online and it was entirely ceded by the Czar to the United States. Which, just confirms the silliness of this so-called “analysis.”
http://www.bartleby.com/43/43.html
In the 6 years of German I took, shadenfruede was always translated as “shameful” joy; I think that hits closer to the true sentiment of the phrase. Just my 2 cents. Prosit! Have a great holiday.
Regarding the so-called “lease” of Alaska…
“Μολὼν λαβέ” – Sarah Palin (noted Greek scholar)
Pumaking-
hajo-hi is correct about the context of Schadenfreude. It has meaning only in the context of a rivalry. My explanation, however, still stands as that was what I had in mind. There are other terms that do not translate directly, schlagfertigkeit is another that has meaning only in certain contexts. Schlagfertigkeit means “hitting back.” In 6 years in Germany, I never heard Schadenfreude used in the sense of shame. It was always with a vengeful panache, as if someone got what they had coming to them and you felt joy or satisfaction as a result.
Intersting comment from a country whose birth rate is so far below sustainment that in the next 20 years they will have to sell (or lose) most of eastern Russia to the Chinese since they can’t defend it. Similar to when they sold Alaska to Seward since they realized if a few years the Americans would take it anyway so why not get some money and avoid the war.
Russia (& most of Europe) are essentially non players on the longer term world stage for the same reason… birthrates so low they have no future beyond giving their territory to the Muslims who breed at 2x sustainment rates.
And I was looking at renewing my Costco. Hmmm, second thoughts have I…
Aardvark, I would partially agree with your last paragraph, in that the Russian populace is pretty much comatose after nearly a century of government domination.
I wouldn’t count the Western Euros out yet, however, as I see and hear things from family members and friends on the Continent that indicate a virulent undercurrent of anger and dissatisfaction with the ongoing changes. Even in Vienna, which I had always believed to be a bastion of liberalism and pacifism, I’m hearing and seeing things that are somewhat shocking.
Not to put too fine a point on it I see the same kind of emotion and thinking towards the Muslims that existed in another era towards another culture that existed in their midst, and whom they perceived as not being able to play well with others. I think we remember only too well where that went; not seeking to justify, only explain an observation.
We still have friends and allies on the Continent, if only we’ll open our eyes to them. So much more to be said, but I’ve already waxed longer than intended.