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		<title>By: Quartermaster</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2008/12/21/wacky/comment-page-1/#comment-302720</link>
		<dc:creator>Quartermaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alas, like the blind pig finding truffles on occasion, Fliterman is correct. Economic strength = Military Strength. The two are completely inseparable. The left has been the main destroyer of our economy, and I&#039;m sure will finish the job in the next 4 years. McCain would have done no different (as he too, is a leftist).

Frankly, our goos well done. Just stick the fork in.

Senior, I realize Mr. F is a bit loco at times, but a small amount of critical thinking would yield a lot of dividends in the long run. When the loon bals are right, they are right, and no amount ad hominem will change the fact. A review of Churchill&#039;s statement about the truth would be in order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas, like the blind pig finding truffles on occasion, Fliterman is correct. Economic strength = Military Strength. The two are completely inseparable. The left has been the main destroyer of our economy, and I&#8217;m sure will finish the job in the next 4 years. McCain would have done no different (as he too, is a leftist).</p>
<p>Frankly, our goos well done. Just stick the fork in.</p>
<p>Senior, I realize Mr. F is a bit loco at times, but a small amount of critical thinking would yield a lot of dividends in the long run. When the loon bals are right, they are right, and no amount ad hominem will change the fact. A review of Churchill&#8217;s statement about the truth would be in order.</p>
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		<title>By: NYT call for Navy cutbacks sparks online buzz &#124; Lux Libertas - Light and Liberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>NYT call for Navy cutbacks sparks online buzz &#124; Lux Libertas - Light and Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogger, Neptunus Lex, wrote that he thought the Times didn’t appreciate the complexities involved with solving the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SeniorD</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeniorD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fliterman says:

&quot;The greatest threat to our national defense lies not with a foreign nation or a group of radicals. (Nor with the NYT for that matter.) It lies within our shores. It is our seriously weakening economy, and our great dependency on foreign governments for products, energy, and most importantly, investment. If foreign nations ever pull out of our economy, we will soon look like Russia, with a rusting fleet and a broken economy.&quot;

When do you leave?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fliterman says:</p>
<p>&#8220;The greatest threat to our national defense lies not with a foreign nation or a group of radicals. (Nor with the NYT for that matter.) It lies within our shores. It is our seriously weakening economy, and our great dependency on foreign governments for products, energy, and most importantly, investment. If foreign nations ever pull out of our economy, we will soon look like Russia, with a rusting fleet and a broken economy.&#8221;</p>
<p>When do you leave?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely wouldn’t champion the NYT piece. However, for me it added a little fuel to what I’ve been thinking lately. Basically ‘what would I do’ for an overall goal for the future Navy. Then, filling in equipment based on that(trying to be somewhat real that $$ aren’t unlimited). Actually one of Eagle1’s posting got the gears turning again. This was the post http://blog.usni.org/?p=273 .  Wish I could give a brilliant answer but not an easy task being an ex-Airdale, to ponder small boy and amphib stuff as well. Of course hoovers would be making a return :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely wouldn’t champion the NYT piece. However, for me it added a little fuel to what I’ve been thinking lately. Basically ‘what would I do’ for an overall goal for the future Navy. Then, filling in equipment based on that(trying to be somewhat real that $$ aren’t unlimited). Actually one of Eagle1’s posting got the gears turning again. This was the post <a href="http://blog.usni.org/?p=273" rel="nofollow">http://blog.usni.org/?p=273</a> .  Wish I could give a brilliant answer but not an easy task being an ex-Airdale, to ponder small boy and amphib stuff as well. Of course hoovers would be making a return <img src='http://www.neptunuslex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: fliterman</title>
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		<dc:creator>fliterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those that take the NYT to task for this article are certainly missing the point at best, and at worst are in a continuing state of military-industrial-complex and economic denial.

Regardless of whatever a New York Times editorial recommends, it is just an opinion.... and all know what &quot;opinions are like,&quot;  &#039;cause everybody has one, including those with their personal opinions of the NYT.  

But all this misses the far greater and inevitable facts.  There are many extraordinary yet exigent hard decisions to be made in defense procurement, plans, programs and operations regardless of what any newspaper editorial proposes.   It will happen regardless  - painful and drastic cuts out of sheer necessity.

Most everyone now realizes that our country is in a recession, likely to get far worse, and even in great risk of a depression.  Our major economic ills are rippling throughout the world, which further exacerbates our own problems.  

The days of massive cost overruns, unconscionable cost-plus projects, defense contractors corporate welfare, earmarks, pork, fat, corruption, weapons without a mission, weapons and platforms that don&#039;t work, inappropriate platforms and systems, etc., are all over out of sheer necessity.  No longer can we afford the past massive federal deficits, nor the tremendous, off-budget supplementary funding for years of two wars that do not even appear on our broken budgets.

The greatest threat to our national defense lies not with a foreign nation or a group of radicals.  (Nor with the NYT for that matter.)  It lies within our shores.   It is our seriously weakening economy, and our great dependency on foreign governments for products, energy, and most importantly, investment.   If foreign nations ever pull out of our economy, we will soon look like Russia, with a rusting fleet and a broken economy.
They have us by the short hairs, and can dictate our future.

We are now on the &quot;backside of the power curve.&quot;  Even without those incredibly colossal and continuing bailouts and funding to banks, automakers, etc – even greater than we have spent on Iraq - we could have no longer sustained  our massive defense spending - double the rest of the world&#039;s combined. 

As a nation, we seriously risk becoming a pauper; no longer able to design, buy, and operate all of the highest-tech toys of the past, regardless of their utility.

The age of American Exceptionalism is rapidly coming to an end.   In the past, what made this country great was our insatiable drive for more, better, greater... be it the greatest nation, greatest military, greatest political system, greatest technology, or greatest economy.  

Unfortunately, our profligacy has propelled us past the point of diminished returns.  In our seemingly never-ending drive for more – on personal, corporate, government, and military levels - we all have way overextended, and will now have to endure a long period of payback and redemption – including the military-industrial-complex.

The Gray Lady may not survive our downturn, and may become only a footnote to history.  But I do not worry about her.  Nor should you. 

 Worry about our nation instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those that take the NYT to task for this article are certainly missing the point at best, and at worst are in a continuing state of military-industrial-complex and economic denial.</p>
<p>Regardless of whatever a New York Times editorial recommends, it is just an opinion&#8230;. and all know what &#8220;opinions are like,&#8221;  &#8217;cause everybody has one, including those with their personal opinions of the NYT.  </p>
<p>But all this misses the far greater and inevitable facts.  There are many extraordinary yet exigent hard decisions to be made in defense procurement, plans, programs and operations regardless of what any newspaper editorial proposes.   It will happen regardless  &#8211; painful and drastic cuts out of sheer necessity.</p>
<p>Most everyone now realizes that our country is in a recession, likely to get far worse, and even in great risk of a depression.  Our major economic ills are rippling throughout the world, which further exacerbates our own problems.  </p>
<p>The days of massive cost overruns, unconscionable cost-plus projects, defense contractors corporate welfare, earmarks, pork, fat, corruption, weapons without a mission, weapons and platforms that don&#8217;t work, inappropriate platforms and systems, etc., are all over out of sheer necessity.  No longer can we afford the past massive federal deficits, nor the tremendous, off-budget supplementary funding for years of two wars that do not even appear on our broken budgets.</p>
<p>The greatest threat to our national defense lies not with a foreign nation or a group of radicals.  (Nor with the NYT for that matter.)  It lies within our shores.   It is our seriously weakening economy, and our great dependency on foreign governments for products, energy, and most importantly, investment.   If foreign nations ever pull out of our economy, we will soon look like Russia, with a rusting fleet and a broken economy.<br />
They have us by the short hairs, and can dictate our future.</p>
<p>We are now on the &#8220;backside of the power curve.&#8221;  Even without those incredibly colossal and continuing bailouts and funding to banks, automakers, etc – even greater than we have spent on Iraq &#8211; we could have no longer sustained  our massive defense spending &#8211; double the rest of the world&#8217;s combined. </p>
<p>As a nation, we seriously risk becoming a pauper; no longer able to design, buy, and operate all of the highest-tech toys of the past, regardless of their utility.</p>
<p>The age of American Exceptionalism is rapidly coming to an end.   In the past, what made this country great was our insatiable drive for more, better, greater&#8230; be it the greatest nation, greatest military, greatest political system, greatest technology, or greatest economy.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, our profligacy has propelled us past the point of diminished returns.  In our seemingly never-ending drive for more – on personal, corporate, government, and military levels &#8211; we all have way overextended, and will now have to endure a long period of payback and redemption – including the military-industrial-complex.</p>
<p>The Gray Lady may not survive our downturn, and may become only a footnote to history.  But I do not worry about her.  Nor should you. </p>
<p> Worry about our nation instead.</p>
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		<title>By: SeniorD</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeniorD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, Cap&#039;n,

Even you must admit it takes something over 5.000 sailors and officers to launch less than 100 sircraft from a bird farm that costs well over several billion dollars to build and operate.  Would CINPAC or CINCLANT task fast moving aircraft to go against littoral combatants when more serious situations exist?

Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, Cap&#8217;n,</p>
<p>Even you must admit it takes something over 5.000 sailors and officers to launch less than 100 sircraft from a bird farm that costs well over several billion dollars to build and operate.  Would CINPAC or CINCLANT task fast moving aircraft to go against littoral combatants when more serious situations exist?</p>
<p>Just curious.</p>
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