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		<title>By: Miss Ladybug</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/01/15/historys-second-draft/comment-page-1/#comment-313804</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Ladybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 05:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The state doesn&#039;t have to go around deporting everybody.  The state needs to concern itself with dealing with the dangerous criminal elements. I live in Texas, and have been unable to find a teaching job in the area where I live.  I am sure that if I checked with those school districts down on the border, I could likely land a job.  Problem is, those border communities have a reputation for high crime and problems with illegal aliens.  Gangs are involved with illegal drug trade and illegal alien smuggling.  We lived in El Paso in the mid-80s when my dad was stationed at Biggs Army Air Field/Fort Bliss.  Juarez wasn&#039;t really safe then, but it is magnitudes worse today - my dad mentioned he heard a news report about the THOUSANDS of murders occurring there.

As for those illegal aliens who are otherwise law-abiding residents, they will self-deport if they are denied access to the US public welfare system.  We also need to end anchor babies.  If you are born here to people who are here illegally, you should not automatically receive the priceless gift of American citizenship...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The state doesn&#8217;t have to go around deporting everybody.  The state needs to concern itself with dealing with the dangerous criminal elements. I live in Texas, and have been unable to find a teaching job in the area where I live.  I am sure that if I checked with those school districts down on the border, I could likely land a job.  Problem is, those border communities have a reputation for high crime and problems with illegal aliens.  Gangs are involved with illegal drug trade and illegal alien smuggling.  We lived in El Paso in the mid-80s when my dad was stationed at Biggs Army Air Field/Fort Bliss.  Juarez wasn&#8217;t really safe then, but it is magnitudes worse today &#8211; my dad mentioned he heard a news report about the THOUSANDS of murders occurring there.</p>
<p>As for those illegal aliens who are otherwise law-abiding residents, they will self-deport if they are denied access to the US public welfare system.  We also need to end anchor babies.  If you are born here to people who are here illegally, you should not automatically receive the priceless gift of American citizenship&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, One of the things that will pop right up in the correct true history is how all the 9/11 terrorists entered this country LEGALLY through the US State Department and Consular Services and how they all obtained driver&#039;s licenses.

Not even a massive police state like the USSR can secure a country this large without surrendering every aspect of freedom to the Ministry of Internal Defense, the Army, the Navy, the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry for the Preservation of Virtue and Prevention of Vice and all the rest.  The border issue as a security issue is a chimera.  If we want to get rid of illegal aliens in vast numbers we could just round up and deport every living soul in the US that cannot speak English and be done with it.

If you want to see the power of the state and control, look at the powers reserved to the state, feds and bureaucrats in the 1930s.  Hell, look at what a bounty hunter can legally get away with viz home invasion and general mayhem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, One of the things that will pop right up in the correct true history is how all the 9/11 terrorists entered this country LEGALLY through the US State Department and Consular Services and how they all obtained driver&#8217;s licenses.</p>
<p>Not even a massive police state like the USSR can secure a country this large without surrendering every aspect of freedom to the Ministry of Internal Defense, the Army, the Navy, the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry for the Preservation of Virtue and Prevention of Vice and all the rest.  The border issue as a security issue is a chimera.  If we want to get rid of illegal aliens in vast numbers we could just round up and deport every living soul in the US that cannot speak English and be done with it.</p>
<p>If you want to see the power of the state and control, look at the powers reserved to the state, feds and bureaucrats in the 1930s.  Hell, look at what a bounty hunter can legally get away with viz home invasion and general mayhem</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;ll likely be kinder to him than current news,   but not nearly as kind as his supporters would like.  History will, by and large, care more about the facts than about partisan emotions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;ll likely be kinder to him than current news,   but not nearly as kind as his supporters would like.  History will, by and large, care more about the facts than about partisan emotions.</p>
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		<title>By: RPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda like Truman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda like Truman.</p>
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		<title>By: virgil xenophon</title>
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		<dc:creator>virgil xenophon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS:  One day in 1960 as a 16yr-old visiting my Aunt Elsie for the summer in Dinuba, I accidently bumped (literally) into a 17 yr-old Burt Rutan (he&#039;s from there, my aunt taught him in 2nd grade) on the sidewalk. You just never know, as in &quot;who knew?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS:  One day in 1960 as a 16yr-old visiting my Aunt Elsie for the summer in Dinuba, I accidently bumped (literally) into a 17 yr-old Burt Rutan (he&#8217;s from there, my aunt taught him in 2nd grade) on the sidewalk. You just never know, as in &#8220;who knew?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: virgil xenophon</title>
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		<dc:creator>virgil xenophon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OM, AW1Tim

My take is that Bush never found  a good way in his own mind to finess the need for border security with the demands of the farm/business lobby for cheap labor. In the case of the businesses  I feel it was the campaign contributions angle--with the farmers it was the very real need for temp labor to bring in the crops before they rotted in the fields.

I had an Aunt who taught 2nd grade for 32 yrs in Dinuba, Calif in the heart of the central valley just south of Fresno in Tulare county. She and her husband also owned some orange groves there. I spent some time out there as a youth and from what I saw and learned from her, I&#039;m somewhat sympathetic to the needs of the farmers for temp labor. I also saw part of that picture in the Rio Grande Valley when my Father was a temp head tennis coach at Pan-American U. in Edinburg, Texas, while on sabbatical for a year in the late 60s.

Also, I feel that, like most white conservatives, his &quot;white guilt&quot;--especially for a born-again Christian--made him especially sensitive to the charges of racism--charges which were wielded by the opposition at the drop of a hat. Then too, as Governor of Texas he had successfully appealed to the Hispanic vote, and probably thought he could do so again somehow without compromising the security issue. One of those MOTR/ &quot;deer in the headlights&quot;/trying to &quot;walk the tight-rope&quot; deals he was unable to pull off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OM, AW1Tim</p>
<p>My take is that Bush never found  a good way in his own mind to finess the need for border security with the demands of the farm/business lobby for cheap labor. In the case of the businesses  I feel it was the campaign contributions angle&#8211;with the farmers it was the very real need for temp labor to bring in the crops before they rotted in the fields.</p>
<p>I had an Aunt who taught 2nd grade for 32 yrs in Dinuba, Calif in the heart of the central valley just south of Fresno in Tulare county. She and her husband also owned some orange groves there. I spent some time out there as a youth and from what I saw and learned from her, I&#8217;m somewhat sympathetic to the needs of the farmers for temp labor. I also saw part of that picture in the Rio Grande Valley when my Father was a temp head tennis coach at Pan-American U. in Edinburg, Texas, while on sabbatical for a year in the late 60s.</p>
<p>Also, I feel that, like most white conservatives, his &#8220;white guilt&#8221;&#8211;especially for a born-again Christian&#8211;made him especially sensitive to the charges of racism&#8211;charges which were wielded by the opposition at the drop of a hat. Then too, as Governor of Texas he had successfully appealed to the Hispanic vote, and probably thought he could do so again somehow without compromising the security issue. One of those MOTR/ &#8220;deer in the headlights&#8221;/trying to &#8220;walk the tight-rope&#8221; deals he was unable to pull off.</p>
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