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		<title>By: whalend</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/02/18/our-war-2/comment-page-1/#comment-330764</link>
		<dc:creator>whalend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many options that have not been tried yet that I hesitate to say that losing there is a foregone conclusion.  Little things like the Khyber Pass work both ways.  This looks like another place where Juche might not work out so well but it is hard to feel pity for them either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many options that have not been tried yet that I hesitate to say that losing there is a foregone conclusion.  Little things like the Khyber Pass work both ways.  This looks like another place where Juche might not work out so well but it is hard to feel pity for them either.</p>
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		<title>By: babs</title>
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		<dc:creator>babs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will lose in Afghanistan and our military will come home defeated.
Obama will make sure of this...
Sending a mere 14,000 more into the conflict will not make a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will lose in Afghanistan and our military will come home defeated.<br />
Obama will make sure of this&#8230;<br />
Sending a mere 14,000 more into the conflict will not make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: G-man</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/02/18/our-war-2/comment-page-1/#comment-328905</link>
		<dc:creator>G-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a post from an old Navy squadron mate&#039;s neighbor.  Sorry for length of the post, but some interesting reading.

&quot;Afghanistan.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt;  This is from  our  neighbor in Yuma. Jim is a retired  Delta pilot and a Marine  fighter pilot. The letter comes from his son serving
in  Afghanistan. Jim asked me to pass on the facts to others.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; Reconnaissance Marine in Afghanistan
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; It&#039;s freezing here. I&#039;m sitting on hard, cold
&gt; dirt between rocks and shrubs  at the base of the Hindu Kush Mountains along the Dar &#039;yoi Pomir River watching a hole that leads to a tunnel that leads to a cave. Stake out, my
friend, and no pizza delivery for thousands of miles.
&gt; &gt; I also glance at the area around my ass every ten to
&gt; fifteen seconds to
&gt; &gt; avoid another scorpion sting. I&#039;ve actually given up battling the chiggers and sand fleas, but them scorpions give a jolt like a cattle prod. Hurts  like a bastard.  The antidote tastes like transmission fluid but God bless the Marine Corps for the five vials of it in my pack.  The one truth the Taliban cannot escape is that,  believe it or not, they are  human beings, which means they have to eat food and  drink water. That
requires couriers and that&#039;s where an old bounty
 hunter like me comes in  handy. I track the couriers, locate the tunnel  entrances and storage
 facilities, type the info into the handheld, shoot the  coordinates up to the  satellite link that tells the air commanders where to drop the hardware, we  bash some heads for a while, then I track and record  the new movement.  It&#039;s all about intelligence. We haven&#039;t even  brought in the snipers yet.   These scurrying rats have no idea what they&#039;re in for. We are but days away
 from cutting off supply lines and allowing the
 eradication to begin.
&gt; &gt; 
 I dream of bin Laden waking up to find me standing  over him with my boot on  his throat as I spit a bloody ear into his face and  plunge my nickel plated  Bowie knife through his frontal lobe. But you know me.   I&#039;m a romantic. I&#039;ve
said it before and I&#039;l l say it again: This  country blows, man. It&#039;s not even  a country. There are no roads, there&#039;s no  infrastructure, there&#039;s no
 government. This is an inhospitable, rock pit shit  hole ruled by eleventh
century warring tribes. There are no jobs here like we  know jobs.
Afghanistan offers two ways for a man to support his  family: join the opium  trade or join the army. That&#039;s it. Those are your  options. Oh, I forgot, you  can also live in a refugee camp and eat  plum-sweetened, crushed beetle paste
and squirt mud like a goose with stomach flu if
that&#039;s your idea of a party.  But the smell alone of those &#039;tent cities of the walking dead&#039; is enough to
 hurl you into the poppy fields to cheerfully scrape  bulbs for eighteen hours  a day.
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; I&#039;ve been living with these Tajiks and Uzbeks and  Turkmen and even a couple of Pushtins for over a month and a half now and this  much I can say for  sure: These guys, all of &#039;em, are Huns. Actual,  living Huns. They LIVE to fight.   It&#039;s what they do. It&#039;s ALL they do.  They have no respect for anything, not for their  families or for each other or for themselves. They claw at one another as a way of life. They play polo
 with dead calves and force their five-year-old sons  into human cockfights to defend the family honor. Huns, roaming packs of savage, heartless beasts who  feed on each others barbarism. Cavemen with AK47&#039;s. Then again, maybe I&#039;m
 just cranky.

&gt; &gt; I&#039;m freezing my ass off on this stupid hill
&gt; because my lap warmer is running out of juice and I can&#039;t recharge it until the sun comes up in a few hours.  Oh yeah! You like to write letters, right? Do me a favor, Bizarre. Write a letter to CNN and tell Wolf and Anderson and that
awful, sneering, pompous  Aaron Brown to stop calling the Taliban  &#039;smart.&#039; They are not smart. I
 suggest CNN invest in a dictionary because the word they are looking for is &#039;cunning.&#039; The Taliban are cunning, like  jackals and hyenas and wolverines.   They are sneaky and ruthless and, when confronted,  cowardly. They are
 hateful, malevolent parasites who create nothing and destroy everything else. Smart. Pfft. Yeah, they&#039;re real smart.   They&#039;ve spent their entire lives  reading only one book (and not a very good one, as books go) and consider hygiene and indoor plumbing to be products of
the devil. They&#039;re still figuring out how to work
a Bic lighter. Talking to a Taliban warrior about improving his quality of life  is like trying to
teach an ape how to hold a pen; eventually he just
 gets frustrated and sticks you in the eye with it.
&gt; &gt; 
 OK, enough. Snuffle will be up soon so I have to get back to my hole.   Covering my tracks in the snow takes a lot of practice  but I&#039;m good at it.
 Please, I tell you and my fellow Americans to turn off  the TV sets and move on with your lives.
The story line you are getting from CNN and other news agencies is utter  bullshit and designed not to deliver truth but rather to keep you glued to the screen through the commercials. We&#039;ve got this  one under control. The  worst thing you guys can do right now is sit around  analyzing what we&#039;re  doing over here because you have no idea what we&#039;re doing and, really, you  don&#039;t want to know. We are your military and we are doing what you sent us
 here to do.&quot;
&gt; &gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a post from an old Navy squadron mate&#8217;s neighbor.  Sorry for length of the post, but some interesting reading.</p>
<p>&#8220;Afghanistan.<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt;  This is from  our  neighbor in Yuma. Jim is a retired  Delta pilot and a Marine  fighter pilot. The letter comes from his son serving<br />
in  Afghanistan. Jim asked me to pass on the facts to others.<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt; Reconnaissance Marine in Afghanistan<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt; It&#8217;s freezing here. I&#8217;m sitting on hard, cold<br />
&gt; dirt between rocks and shrubs  at the base of the Hindu Kush Mountains along the Dar &#8216;yoi Pomir River watching a hole that leads to a tunnel that leads to a cave. Stake out, my<br />
friend, and no pizza delivery for thousands of miles.<br />
&gt; &gt; I also glance at the area around my ass every ten to<br />
&gt; fifteen seconds to<br />
&gt; &gt; avoid another scorpion sting. I&#8217;ve actually given up battling the chiggers and sand fleas, but them scorpions give a jolt like a cattle prod. Hurts  like a bastard.  The antidote tastes like transmission fluid but God bless the Marine Corps for the five vials of it in my pack.  The one truth the Taliban cannot escape is that,  believe it or not, they are  human beings, which means they have to eat food and  drink water. That<br />
requires couriers and that&#8217;s where an old bounty<br />
 hunter like me comes in  handy. I track the couriers, locate the tunnel  entrances and storage<br />
 facilities, type the info into the handheld, shoot the  coordinates up to the  satellite link that tells the air commanders where to drop the hardware, we  bash some heads for a while, then I track and record  the new movement.  It&#8217;s all about intelligence. We haven&#8217;t even  brought in the snipers yet.   These scurrying rats have no idea what they&#8217;re in for. We are but days away<br />
 from cutting off supply lines and allowing the<br />
 eradication to begin.<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
 I dream of bin Laden waking up to find me standing  over him with my boot on  his throat as I spit a bloody ear into his face and  plunge my nickel plated  Bowie knife through his frontal lobe. But you know me.   I&#8217;m a romantic. I&#8217;ve<br />
said it before and I&#8217;l l say it again: This  country blows, man. It&#8217;s not even  a country. There are no roads, there&#8217;s no  infrastructure, there&#8217;s no<br />
 government. This is an inhospitable, rock pit shit  hole ruled by eleventh<br />
century warring tribes. There are no jobs here like we  know jobs.<br />
Afghanistan offers two ways for a man to support his  family: join the opium  trade or join the army. That&#8217;s it. Those are your  options. Oh, I forgot, you  can also live in a refugee camp and eat  plum-sweetened, crushed beetle paste<br />
and squirt mud like a goose with stomach flu if<br />
that&#8217;s your idea of a party.  But the smell alone of those &#8216;tent cities of the walking dead&#8217; is enough to<br />
 hurl you into the poppy fields to cheerfully scrape  bulbs for eighteen hours  a day.<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt; I&#8217;ve been living with these Tajiks and Uzbeks and  Turkmen and even a couple of Pushtins for over a month and a half now and this  much I can say for  sure: These guys, all of &#8216;em, are Huns. Actual,  living Huns. They LIVE to fight.   It&#8217;s what they do. It&#8217;s ALL they do.  They have no respect for anything, not for their  families or for each other or for themselves. They claw at one another as a way of life. They play polo<br />
 with dead calves and force their five-year-old sons  into human cockfights to defend the family honor. Huns, roaming packs of savage, heartless beasts who  feed on each others barbarism. Cavemen with AK47&#8217;s. Then again, maybe I&#8217;m<br />
 just cranky.</p>
<p>&gt; &gt; I&#8217;m freezing my ass off on this stupid hill<br />
&gt; because my lap warmer is running out of juice and I can&#8217;t recharge it until the sun comes up in a few hours.  Oh yeah! You like to write letters, right? Do me a favor, Bizarre. Write a letter to CNN and tell Wolf and Anderson and that<br />
awful, sneering, pompous  Aaron Brown to stop calling the Taliban  &#8217;smart.&#8217; They are not smart. I<br />
 suggest CNN invest in a dictionary because the word they are looking for is &#8216;cunning.&#8217; The Taliban are cunning, like  jackals and hyenas and wolverines.   They are sneaky and ruthless and, when confronted,  cowardly. They are<br />
 hateful, malevolent parasites who create nothing and destroy everything else. Smart. Pfft. Yeah, they&#8217;re real smart.   They&#8217;ve spent their entire lives  reading only one book (and not a very good one, as books go) and consider hygiene and indoor plumbing to be products of<br />
the devil. They&#8217;re still figuring out how to work<br />
a Bic lighter. Talking to a Taliban warrior about improving his quality of life  is like trying to<br />
teach an ape how to hold a pen; eventually he just<br />
 gets frustrated and sticks you in the eye with it.<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
 OK, enough. Snuffle will be up soon so I have to get back to my hole.   Covering my tracks in the snow takes a lot of practice  but I&#8217;m good at it.<br />
 Please, I tell you and my fellow Americans to turn off  the TV sets and move on with your lives.<br />
The story line you are getting from CNN and other news agencies is utter  bullshit and designed not to deliver truth but rather to keep you glued to the screen through the commercials. We&#8217;ve got this  one under control. The  worst thing you guys can do right now is sit around  analyzing what we&#8217;re  doing over here because you have no idea what we&#8217;re doing and, really, you  don&#8217;t want to know. We are your military and we are doing what you sent us<br />
 here to do.&#8221;<br />
&gt; &gt;</p>
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		<title>By: OldT6Flyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldT6Flyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly one of the biggest failing of the Bush Administration, in my opinion, was not to communicate to the American people the sacrifices being made by the few such as to emphasize the need for more by the many.  We are at war and yet, even now, it is hard to find evidence of it in the daily lives of our citizens.  Oh you can find mention of it daily in the press but always as if it is an abstract thing - something distant or to be attached to someone, like President Bush, and not something that should affect us everyday in some way.  

When our nation makes a choice (and that is what happened - it wasn&#039;t just the President) to go to war it is incumbent that we all be made to participate - even if to pay more taxes to pay for it.  When we don&#039;t it becomes somebody else&#039;s war the sacrifices borne only by the members of the armed services and their families.

Out of sight out of mind.  We cannot afford to adopt this attitude with so very much at stake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly one of the biggest failing of the Bush Administration, in my opinion, was not to communicate to the American people the sacrifices being made by the few such as to emphasize the need for more by the many.  We are at war and yet, even now, it is hard to find evidence of it in the daily lives of our citizens.  Oh you can find mention of it daily in the press but always as if it is an abstract thing &#8211; something distant or to be attached to someone, like President Bush, and not something that should affect us everyday in some way.  </p>
<p>When our nation makes a choice (and that is what happened &#8211; it wasn&#8217;t just the President) to go to war it is incumbent that we all be made to participate &#8211; even if to pay more taxes to pay for it.  When we don&#8217;t it becomes somebody else&#8217;s war the sacrifices borne only by the members of the armed services and their families.</p>
<p>Out of sight out of mind.  We cannot afford to adopt this attitude with so very much at stake.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While BHO may have been enlightened somewhat (had an epiphany even) in his post-innaugeration security clearance upgrade, that does not exonorate the MSM.  They&#039;ll have wax burns on their hands for years to come for holding candle light vigil in their labeling of the GWOT as Bush&#039;s War.  They should be the beacons of fact, and instead they sling their ideaology-driven crap at us.
We, who have been there, are there, will go there, have always known that this is our war.
This must be choir practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While BHO may have been enlightened somewhat (had an epiphany even) in his post-innaugeration security clearance upgrade, that does not exonorate the MSM.  They&#8217;ll have wax burns on their hands for years to come for holding candle light vigil in their labeling of the GWOT as Bush&#8217;s War.  They should be the beacons of fact, and instead they sling their ideaology-driven crap at us.<br />
We, who have been there, are there, will go there, have always known that this is our war.<br />
This must be choir practice.</p>
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		<title>By: bizjetmech</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Lex, it IS our war and always has been.
But most of the American people don&#039;t realize it because, except for military members and families,   no one else is involved to much of an extent.  Reminds me of a poster I saw somewhere...

&quot;Americans aren&#039;t at war, the Marines are&quot; 

apologies to Army, Navy and Coast Guard...just quoting the poster :-)

I wish we, the civilians, were more involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Lex, it IS our war and always has been.<br />
But most of the American people don&#8217;t realize it because, except for military members and families,   no one else is involved to much of an extent.  Reminds me of a poster I saw somewhere&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Americans aren&#8217;t at war, the Marines are&#8221; </p>
<p>apologies to Army, Navy and Coast Guard&#8230;just quoting the poster <img src='http://www.neptunuslex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I wish we, the civilians, were more involved.</p>
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