Comments on: Meet you in the middle http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/03/17/meet-you-in-the-middle/ The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy! Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:00:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: virgil xenophon http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/03/17/meet-you-in-the-middle/comment-page-1/#comment-343284 virgil xenophon Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:20:46 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=8460#comment-343284 The old "Engine Charlie" Wilson theory, eh, babs? The old “Engine Charlie” Wilson theory, eh, babs?

]]> By: babs http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/03/17/meet-you-in-the-middle/comment-page-1/#comment-343272 babs Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:00:43 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=8460#comment-343272 Short of being consumed by a massive flame war; wouldn't you like to see China protect some of the sea lanes for Walmart? Short of being consumed by a massive flame war; wouldn’t you like to see China protect some of the sea lanes for Walmart?

]]> By: Marine6 http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/03/17/meet-you-in-the-middle/comment-page-1/#comment-342452 Marine6 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:14:24 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=8460#comment-342452 We have an administration that will bankrupt us all to bail out the banks, AIG, illegal aliens, the unions, the corrupt, the inept..... And is now bailing out on the veterans and the military. God Save the United States! We have an administration that will bankrupt us all to bail out the banks, AIG, illegal aliens, the unions, the corrupt, the inept…..

And is now bailing out on the veterans and the military.

God Save the United States!

]]> By: G-man http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/03/17/meet-you-in-the-middle/comment-page-1/#comment-342417 G-man Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:56:54 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=8460#comment-342417 Just check the defense headlines: Second S-400 air defense regiment put into service in Russia. (Oh - oh. twice the range of Patriot.) Wednesday, March 18, 2009 Russian RS-24 missiles to go on duty in December - commander of RVSN . (New MIRV with at least 4 warheads) Moscow sings deal to sell S-300 air defense systems to Iran. Maybe we need to re-visit that there UAV blog-roll from yestidee. Swarms of armed stealth drone-oids may be what we wind up with in the holster. SJS is right on about the changing demographics. It is estimated that over 300 million Chinese will move from rural to metropolitan areas over the next decade. That is almost the entire US population on the move. Their demand for oil, commodities, and secure source of raw materials will inevitably bring them into a confrontation with either us or the Russians. Not sure who the bigger threat really is- an imploding Russia or a booming China. That is, assuming the O's vaunted economic fix works its magic on the world. Just check the defense headlines:
Second S-400 air defense regiment put into service in Russia. (Oh – oh. twice the range of Patriot.)

Wednesday, March 18, 2009
Russian RS-24 missiles to go on duty in December – commander of RVSN . (New MIRV with at least 4 warheads)

Moscow sings deal to sell S-300 air defense systems to Iran.

Maybe we need to re-visit that there UAV blog-roll from yestidee. Swarms of armed stealth drone-oids may be what we wind up with in the holster.

SJS is right on about the changing demographics. It is estimated that over 300 million Chinese will move from rural to metropolitan areas over the next decade. That is almost the entire US population on the move. Their demand for oil, commodities, and secure source of raw materials will inevitably bring them into a confrontation with either us or the Russians.

Not sure who the bigger threat really is- an imploding Russia or a booming China. That is, assuming the O’s vaunted economic fix works its magic on the world.

]]> By: saltydog http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/03/17/meet-you-in-the-middle/comment-page-1/#comment-342374 saltydog Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:58:44 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=8460#comment-342374 From the Jun 5, 2008 Economist http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11496828 "Today a resurgent, confident and globalising China is rebuilding its naval strength. Like India, its rising Asian rival, it already has an impressive army. But both countries are finding that rapid economic growth is providing the money to realise long-cherished dreams of building ocean-going “blue-water” navies that can project power far from their home shores. In the past two years China's navy has acquired new destroyers, frigates and submarines, some home-built, some (including its most advanced kit) Russian. A recent study by the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) concluded that China was also close to beginning the production of aircraft-carriers, which would give it the ability to project airpower over great distances." The economic conditions don't seem to stand in the way...... China says this past November in this article http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/18/world/asia/18china.html "A high-ranking Chinese military official has hinted that China’s fast-growing navy is seeking to acquire an aircraft carrier, a move that would surely stoke tensions with the United States military and its allies in Asia. In an interview published in The Financial Times of London on Monday, the official, Maj. Gen. Quan Lihua" At least the U.S has nothing to worry about according to Maj Gen Quan.. At least we have that going for us..... From the Jun 5, 2008 Economist

http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11496828

“Today a resurgent, confident and globalising China is rebuilding its naval strength. Like India, its rising Asian rival, it already has an impressive army. But both countries are finding that rapid economic growth is providing the money to realise long-cherished dreams of building ocean-going “blue-water” navies that can project power far from their home shores.

In the past two years China’s navy has acquired new destroyers, frigates and submarines, some home-built, some (including its most advanced kit) Russian. A recent study by the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) concluded that China was also close to beginning the production of aircraft-carriers, which would give it the ability to project airpower over great distances.”

The economic conditions don’t seem to stand in the way…… China says this past November in this article

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/18/world/asia/18china.html

“A high-ranking Chinese military official has hinted that China’s fast-growing navy is seeking to acquire an aircraft carrier, a move that would surely stoke tensions with the United States military and its allies in Asia. In an interview published in The Financial Times of London on Monday, the official, Maj. Gen. Quan Lihua”

At least the U.S has nothing to worry about according to Maj Gen Quan..
At least we have that going for us…..

]]> By: G-man http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/03/17/meet-you-in-the-middle/comment-page-1/#comment-342351 G-man Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:36:39 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=8460#comment-342351 The article was spot on. A number of years ago Cohen was Rep senator from Maine and on the SASC. When the flag I worked for testified every year on the Hill, Cohen was one that was for strong defense, judicious use of taxpayer dollars, and cuts in procurement and OM&N that affected the WEST coast only! Like Todd shipyard, or Long Beach Naval Shipyard. Keep Bath open, keep Portsmouth open. Not due to economies of production or efficiency in procurement or lesser cost to taxpayer or Needs of the Navy but simply jobs. Damn the facts on Russian sub production, Russian Sukhoi production, etc. Nope, short term sight focused only on the MY LEGACY factor. A former Secnav said in a closed door meeting that they (the Hill) never worried about the fallout of their decisions because they had unbreakable faith in ability of US military to win -over the long haul - and without regard to near term casualties or catastrophes. that and the average Hill staffer had less accurate knowledge of the military than a first year JROTC stud. Second verse - same as the first. The article was spot on. A number of years ago Cohen was Rep senator from Maine and on the SASC. When the flag I worked for testified every year on the Hill, Cohen was one that was for strong defense, judicious use of taxpayer dollars, and cuts in procurement and OM&N that affected the WEST coast only! Like Todd shipyard, or Long Beach Naval Shipyard. Keep Bath open, keep Portsmouth open. Not due to economies of production or efficiency in procurement or lesser cost to taxpayer or Needs of the Navy but simply jobs. Damn the facts on Russian sub production, Russian Sukhoi production, etc. Nope, short term sight focused only on the MY LEGACY factor. A former Secnav said in a closed door meeting that they (the Hill) never worried about the fallout of their decisions because they had unbreakable faith in ability of US military to win -over the long haul – and without regard to near term casualties or catastrophes. that and the average Hill staffer had less accurate knowledge of the military than a first year JROTC stud.

Second verse – same as the first.

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