It has to be admitted – I have admitted before - that the Russians make very good ejection seats.
Which is important, because some of their clients make very poor pilots.
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MiG-29 ejectionski Utube: Mig-29 crash at Paris Air Show Le Bourget 1989: “On the opening day (8th June 1989) Mikoyan test pilot Anatoliy Kvochur was making a demonstration flight in the single-seater Mig-29 ’303′ Blue. During the high-alpha/low-speed pass at 160m (525ft) that was to conclude the Fulcrum’s aerobatic display, the starboard engine surged, belching a sheet of flame (subsequently found to be a birdstrike). Kvochur immediately selected full afterburner for the working engine; however at 180km/h (111mph) he had insufficient rudder and ailereon authority to counter the trust asymmetry and the result was inevitably an irrecoverable departure.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL1FblthxQ0
Why waste a good seat on a knucklehead like that guy – the ‘FO deserves a good one though, for manning up with him.
Oh my goodness…
these are the same guys that will be defending the airspace from Israeli attacks on their nuclear facilities, right?
Maybe Isreal should invite the Iranians to visit their airfields, clear everyone out of the way, and let them eliminate the treat for good. Offer them some free Jet A and watch the Iranian AF go up in smoke….
What strikes me is the fact this this video, which appears to be from two different cameras (the one in the vehicle and another from a rooftop or hill) made it out of the country and onto the web. There is so very little that gets out; someone was the brave (or stupid) type.
If that had been an F-111 I would have said he was dumping fuel all the way down final to touchdown.
Surely that can’t be possible, that would create a home-made fuel-air explosive bomb!
At least they didn’t use the ejection seat “plan B“ smaller parachutes.
Day-um – those things smoke like an F-4!
Just want to make sure this one gets seen here:
http://www.fritzthefox.com/tokori.html
Pouge, I thought the same thing. I’m wondering if Virgil Xenephon was having flashbacks.
Hey! I REPRESENT that remark, as a matter of fact, I deeply RESEMBLE it!
Seriously, the smoke? Hell yes. The landings? HA! Not EVEN in pilot tng on my worst day! (Hist. note: We had 2 Iranian students in my class–they were on our side in those days, remember?–and they had their “minder” liaison officers who would chew the hell out of ‘em when they were doing poorly and in danger of washing out–as one was–had the poor guy standing at attention as he was getting the tongue-lashing–nothing like positive motivation!
Guess they had a lot of $ invested, not to mention loss of face, etc. I often wondered what happened to those guys after they went back; if they survived the Iran-Iraq war, were purged during the Revolution, whatever. Such is life and it’s many imponderables.)
XBRAD/
I’ve got an answer in moderation for you. (I wonder why?, heh)
XBRAD:
Even my note to you telling you I had an answer tied up in moderation was itself put in moderation, sheesh! Maybe this one will slip thru.
Pull-lease don’t let Barney F see this – will use it as justification to cancel F22/35 seeing as how the competition ain’t too sharp.
Don’t they have a rocket ride that will sense the positive in vertical axis so even if you eject inverted the seat will sense right side up and thru vectored thrust push you up and not down? Provided of course that you have sufficient distance between you and Pk 1.
Thing smokes like a Deuce-and-a- Half because they ain’t changed the airfilters lately. Poor maintenance.
After the flight, the following conversation was heard:
Iranian NFO/WSO: I said, ‘Land with a purpose.’
Iranian Pilot: I thought you said, ‘Land with a porpoise.’
G-Man/
I think you’re right. I DO know that they were using rockets to “stage” “soft” ejections looong before we did. A lot of needless spinal fractures were incurred
by our side as a result of being slow off the mark in that area.
Pogue: At the end of it’s life in the fleet, after bailing out of the F-14 program, the Marines had the F-4S with smokeless engines and maneuvering slats. Not a bad machine.
I never saw one of those. When I was on the Midway VF-151 and 161 had F-4Ns. As I recall they got upgraded to J’s in 1976 or 1977. I’ve always liked the Phantom – pure brute force.
Yes,
The ability to get out of trouble faster than it got into it.
There’s a lot to like about a Phantom. I used to chide the AF guys down at Hill AFB about the tail hooks on their birds. They had a very poor sense of humour as I remember it…..
Dumb OT flying question, Lex – Can an F-18 (or any other jet I guess) do a Lomcevak? Seems like it would be a natural for an airshow…
Short form…no. Tactical jets aren’t equipped for negative G, and a lot of the unlimited aerobatics require full inverted capability.
The most exotic maneuver I ever saw with a jet was the inertia coupling maneuver done at the U.S. Naval Test Pilot school. Set up for an inverted spin entry, stall, and hit full aileron. The airplane flips around all three axes simultaneously. VERY disorienting.
P.S. We used T-2s for this. And don’t try it at home.
Thanks – as a helo pilot I’m _really_ not goint to try any of that stuff at home!
Tried to figure what an inertial coupling looks like. Thought it might have been a variant of a snap roll but probably not.
“Inertia coupling is a potentially lethal phenomenon of high-speed flight in which the inertia of the heavier fuselage overpowers the aerodynamic stabilizing forces of the wing and empennage. The problem became apparent as single-engine jet fighter aircraft were developed with narrow wing spans that had relatively low roll inertia, relative to the pitch and yaw inertia dominated by the long slender high-density fuselage.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertia_coupling
A-4 Skyhawk could roll at 720 degrees per second. NATOPS limited it to one roll otherwise inertia coupling became dangerous in level flight. TA-4 rear seaters inevitably banged helmets on canopy despite forewarnings.
’tis a bad day for aviation safety, both large and small.
1. FedEx dumps an MD11
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7958367.stm
2. A Pilatus PC-12 goes down in Montana
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7958472.stm
Brad kinda beat me to it, but I was gonna say…
WTH, were those guys trained by FedEx?