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Doesn’t look much different than what I went thru in Lackland for my USAF Basic Training.
Well, o.k., perhaps a bit more challenging.
I happened to be staying at the Coronado Q last summer when hell week started. For those who don’t know, if you’re in a high west-facing room in the Q, you have a nice view of the SEAL compound.
They had an ambulance take someone away within the first hour. By the end of the week they had < 1/2 the rubber boats they started the week with.
bah, BUDs has been watered down tremendously in the last decade, heck anyone who went through in the early 90′s wouldnt recognize it today. Still it’s tougher than pretty much any other SF indoc/training that you will encounter.
Everyone I talk to–doesn’t matter who, SEALS, officers or enlisted at Lackland, Rangers, etc., –ALL say it’s ALL been watered down. I would surmise due to a combination of test “norming” because of the femmes in the basic tng stuff and due to manpower needs in the elite units–but for whatever reason, unless, against all laws of statistics and probability, I talked to the only people who see it that way–it would seem to be true.
Hey virgil … I didn’t know there were any women in the SEALs. When did that revolution happen? Or are we talking about the political correctitude of today’s feminists?
Marianne
Marianne,
There are no women in the SEALs, just as there are no women in the combat arms branches of all the services. IE: Infantry,Artillary,Armor or Combat Engineer.
Tis against the law.
Virgil, I have a hard time imagining how Lackland could’ve gotten any more watered down than when I went though in ’87, but I can only imagine. They’d already done away with running or pushups for minor infractions and were handing out Form 341′s and moderately harsh language. I suppose even the harsh language is gone now.
This picture alone would forever cure me of wanting to be a SEAL (I’m allergic to ice water):
http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/200904100731.aspx
I’ll stick with the old guys version of BUDS, an hour at a time…Crossfit.
Larry, when I saw that picture this morning I thought, as often I do with the ongoing years, “God Bless Those Guys”.
Because, truly, I do sleep better knowing that they and their brothers are on watch and are helping protect me and my loved ones from the worlds evil.
Regards,
Yah know, y’all beginning to sound like old fahrts. Oh “They watered down BUDS. Why back in the day we’d march 10 miles in 20 degree 30 knot blinding snow up hill both ways. You young whippersnappers got it good. ”
I never was in that good of shape even right out of boot camp and 37 years later (15 of them behind a keyboard) and I’m in less shape now than then. I just thank God there are young men willing to submit to that kind of training to pursue those that would destroy America. Bless them and God Bless America!
JoeC/
NewsFlash: We ARE mostly “old fahrts.”
I know, speak for yourself, etc., but a more serious reflection would have to acknowledge that in the field of “PT’ much has changed with the twin drivers being science and
the feminization (and other cultural changes) of society, although the latter has as of yet seems not to have affected elite units such as the SEALs, etc.
Much of “basic” tng PT, whether in civilian life such as police and fire depts, or in the armed services has seen the artificial “norming” of standards in attempts to square the circle of the very real physical differences between men and women on the one hand and the political pressure from femminists (and reinforced by cowed courts and idiot judges) on the other. That this has happened is factually beyond dispute.
The scientific impetus is most evident in athletics.
In “MY” day (when the football was round and the basketball was square)
the use of water was strictly verbotten. It was believed to be cramp inducing and was absent from most practices such as football especially. The science of heatstroke was in it’s infancy. Salt pills were thought to be the only thing needed to ward off fatigue, etc.
In my case, for example, for HS football in the 50s pre-season practice in the middle of August we suited up in full
gear–pads and helmets from day one for two-a-day practices without a single drop of water allowed during the 31/2 hrs of practice at each session (LOL, it’s amazing that no one
ever died of heat stroke. Our practices were like the Battaan Death March)
For at least the last forty years things have been more “enlightened.” Beginning in the 70s new science on heat effects and human physiology saw initial Aug. football work-outs begun in shorts, T-shirts and only Helmets and with plenty–with the pads added (first the shoulder pad& Jersey w. shorts, followed by finally adding hip/kneepads and pants to complete) of water available through-out practice. This is still pretty much the norm today.
Other cultural changes affecting tng come to mind. One is the fact almost all of today’s youth grow up wearing tennis/running shoes as opposed to hard leather shoes of previous generations. This has meant that the human foot at first is unable to withstand the constant demands of basic tng carried out in combat boots. Now, a significant portion of early tng takes place in running shoes until the recruit’s foot becomes “aclimatized”
to the leather boot. In this instance, truly a “softer” generation indeed.
So, many would argue that, on the scientific front at least, standards haven’t been “lowered” so much as “changed” or “improved.”
Ba Humbug. I’m enough of a Cro-Magnon man to want everybody to suffer
like MY generation did. It’s NOT FAIR!