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	<description>The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy!</description>
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		<title>By: virgil xenophon</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/04/20/noise-complaints/comment-page-1/#comment-380021</link>
		<dc:creator>virgil xenophon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pitts/

Looks like the AF will have to re-open the most isolated base in America--old WWII Wendover AFB in Utah. Oh joy to those who would be stationed there--was so isolated  they used it to stand-up and train the B-29 Wing that dropped the atomic bomb. Either that or base every F-35 in the world at Area 51 at Tonopah and Groom Lake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pitts/</p>
<p>Looks like the AF will have to re-open the most isolated base in America&#8211;old WWII Wendover AFB in Utah. Oh joy to those who would be stationed there&#8211;was so isolated  they used it to stand-up and train the B-29 Wing that dropped the atomic bomb. Either that or base every F-35 in the world at Area 51 at Tonopah and Groom Lake.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/04/20/noise-complaints/comment-page-1/#comment-380017</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh?  I get the part about moving into a house in the flightpath, we understand and accept that, but that completely ignores the fact that the noise is now TWICE as loud.  Why must you persist in ignoring that?

There&#039;s a BIG difference between simply hearing the older jets going overhead and the FA-18&#039;s vibrating your entire house while all conversation and other activity comes to crashing halt waiting for the noise assault to stop....dozens of times some days.  Sometimes it seems windows are about to crack from the sound.  We didn&#039;t sign up for THAT.  

Please cease and desist to make us sound like a  bunch of spoiled ninnys....we&#039;re just normal people trying to maintain a reasonable level of peace and quiet in our homes. Don&#039;t be so hateful, OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh?  I get the part about moving into a house in the flightpath, we understand and accept that, but that completely ignores the fact that the noise is now TWICE as loud.  Why must you persist in ignoring that?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a BIG difference between simply hearing the older jets going overhead and the FA-18&#8242;s vibrating your entire house while all conversation and other activity comes to crashing halt waiting for the noise assault to stop&#8230;.dozens of times some days.  Sometimes it seems windows are about to crack from the sound.  We didn&#8217;t sign up for THAT.  </p>
<p>Please cease and desist to make us sound like a  bunch of spoiled ninnys&#8230;.we&#8217;re just normal people trying to maintain a reasonable level of peace and quiet in our homes. Don&#8217;t be so hateful, OK?</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/04/20/noise-complaints/comment-page-1/#comment-380012</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....and it&#039;s hard to feel sorry for idiots who can&#039;t get their facts straight; this is like buying a house next to a quiet cafe and then having the owner convert it to a biker  bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.and it&#8217;s hard to feel sorry for idiots who can&#8217;t get their facts straight; this is like buying a house next to a quiet cafe and then having the owner convert it to a biker  bar.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeC</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/04/20/noise-complaints/comment-page-1/#comment-359273</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem Rod, is ANYWHERE you build (If you build it,they will come) will end up with that issue. Because all those military pukes require things like support and the camp followers will do things like build bars, and the contractors will build houses to support the bars, then the gas stations, grocery stores, hardware stores, schools, hospitals, banks, malls, 7-11s, Walmart, ad. infinitum will build up around the base.  Soon you have an isolated post that looks like oh, say Key West or NAS Oceana.  Rinse. Repeat. 

My dad was a middie in the 40&#039;s and tells me stories of Virginia Beach (when there used to be a real beach there) and he recollects there wasn&#039;t much there but the tourist traps and support. The place used to close up in the winter. Shoot, when I was there in the 70&#039;s the place still had a LOT of open land. Now?  Heh. &quot;Princess Anne County&quot; became all &quot;Virginia Beach&quot; because there no longer was unincorporated land to be called a county..... and that happened while I was there in the 70&#039;s... And the only buildable land left is one master jet base with all those noisy airplanes. A prime developer target.

So my non-P.C. comment to those noise complainer&#039;s? EF &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem Rod, is ANYWHERE you build (If you build it,they will come) will end up with that issue. Because all those military pukes require things like support and the camp followers will do things like build bars, and the contractors will build houses to support the bars, then the gas stations, grocery stores, hardware stores, schools, hospitals, banks, malls, 7-11s, Walmart, ad. infinitum will build up around the base.  Soon you have an isolated post that looks like oh, say Key West or NAS Oceana.  Rinse. Repeat. </p>
<p>My dad was a middie in the 40&#8242;s and tells me stories of Virginia Beach (when there used to be a real beach there) and he recollects there wasn&#8217;t much there but the tourist traps and support. The place used to close up in the winter. Shoot, when I was there in the 70&#8242;s the place still had a LOT of open land. Now?  Heh. &#8220;Princess Anne County&#8221; became all &#8220;Virginia Beach&#8221; because there no longer was unincorporated land to be called a county&#8230;.. and that happened while I was there in the 70&#8242;s&#8230; And the only buildable land left is one master jet base with all those noisy airplanes. A prime developer target.</p>
<p>So my non-P.C. comment to those noise complainer&#8217;s? EF &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyT</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/04/20/noise-complaints/comment-page-1/#comment-359264</link>
		<dc:creator>JimmyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a funny - a little news blurb about the old site of NAS Cecil Field which used to be a really nice place to fly all those noisy jets (it was a &quot;Master Jet Base&quot; when that really meant something) but was BRACKed.  

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=5dafadbd-fa56-4985-9648-1c89bdd2d93d&amp;

The jist of this is that Cecil Field can become a Spaceport for reusable spacecraft that launch &quot;horizontally&quot;.  Yeah, there you go, the next generation space shuttle launching from Cecil Field - having had some 15 years of housing growth around it.  NIMBY&#039;s could not be reached for comment.

BT:  Jimmy T sends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a funny &#8211; a little news blurb about the old site of NAS Cecil Field which used to be a really nice place to fly all those noisy jets (it was a &#8220;Master Jet Base&#8221; when that really meant something) but was BRACKed.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=5dafadbd-fa56-4985-9648-1c89bdd2d93d&#038;amp" rel="nofollow">http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=5dafadbd-fa56-4985-9648-1c89bdd2d93d&#038;amp</a>;</p>
<p>The jist of this is that Cecil Field can become a Spaceport for reusable spacecraft that launch &#8220;horizontally&#8221;.  Yeah, there you go, the next generation space shuttle launching from Cecil Field &#8211; having had some 15 years of housing growth around it.  NIMBY&#8217;s could not be reached for comment.</p>
<p>BT:  Jimmy T sends.</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimmyT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Navy through and through (worked on the Mighty War Hoover) - the loudest anything with wings on it that I ever heard was the B-1.  It remains at least to me, one of the sweetest looking aircraft ever made as well.

BT:  Jimmy T sends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Navy through and through (worked on the Mighty War Hoover) &#8211; the loudest anything with wings on it that I ever heard was the B-1.  It remains at least to me, one of the sweetest looking aircraft ever made as well.</p>
<p>BT:  Jimmy T sends.</p>
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