Credo
"Sign on, young man, and sail with me. The stature of our homeland is no more than the measure of ourselves. Our job is to keep her free. Our will is to keep the torch of freedom burning for all. To this solemn purpose we call on the young, the brave, the strong, and the free. Heed my call, Come to the sea. Come Sail with me." -- John Paul Jones
"Pardon him, Theodotus; he is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature" --George Bernard Shaw, "Caesar and Cleopatra"
"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music."--Friedrich Nietzsche
"A kind Providence has placed in our breasts a hatred of the unjust and cruel, in order that we may preserve ourselves from cruelty and injustice. They who bear cruelty, are accomplices in it. The pretended gentleness which excludes that charitable rancour, produces an indifference which is half an approbation. They never will love where they ought to love, who do not hate where they ought to hate."--Edmund Burke
“You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours.”--General Sir Charles Napier
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He did this on active duty. I think the UCMJ should apply. He should have been given a GCM, not turned over to the civilian courts.
You have to take care of your own.
Good and Bad.
In the local news.
http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/story/Green-Found-Guilty/YhYY-OsuykahMfGZUslXmw.cspx
Hang him twice!
I think hanging is too good for him.
It’s offenses like this that make me think we need to bring back drawing and quartering.
At the very least he should be keel hauled – on the USS Ronald Reagan.
Disgusting scum like this need to be removed from our midst.
Of course, I wouldn’t really cry if they only hanged him.
Yes, hanging is too good for this guy.
Throw him out of a C-2 at 15,000… without a chute!
Nah, that is still to good for him…
Funny, I was thinking of the drawing and quartering as well. Instant thought.
My stomach is turned about this entire incident. When I lived overseas, the country in which I resided televised their executions. I’d be with it in this case.
Give him to the 6th Seals, for ‘training’.
And to those who say we need to be more “civilized”, and only put him in prison?
I say fie on you! I was thinking of an f-world, and fie was the prudent of the two.
And, if he is killed, there is very little chance of recidivism.
The death penalty would seem completely justified.
A representative from the family of the victims should be offered the opportunity to witness the event.
At DoD expense. Debt of Honor.
A representative should not only be present at our expense, he or she should be offered the chance to press the button or throw the switch or fire the rifle, just to openly show that we are being above-board and when we decide death penalty we aren’t really talking about 5 years and out on good behavior.
I have a theory on how televising the events on NPR and auctioning off the rights to push the button would eliminate those annoying pledge drives during Car Talk and, thereby, reduce not only road rage incidents but also make NRP self-supporting.
Alas, my congress-woman does not seem to take my suggestion seriously.
– Max
I agree with unkawill about the UCMJ applying but since this occurred in Iraq, maybe we could apply some Iraqi-style justice.
You know – the industrial plastic shredder thing.
Saddam may have been a tyrant, but he knew a thing or two about anti-recidivism.
We really don’t have to do anything to him. Just take him back to the village and drop him off in the middle of the local market. They’ll take care of it.
Best idea I’ve read on this yet.
[...] (H/T LEX [...]
25Z,
I like your idea best. It is fitting and just. Just ensure the population is informed of who he is and what he had done in their village or neighborhood before throwing him out of the vehicle.
Dust
Hang him. In Iraq. In public. In that square where they pulled down the statue of Saddam. The Iraqis need to know that this behavior is completely against the ethos of the military and our nation.
Byron, putting emotions aside, You make a very important point- “The Iraqis need to know that this behavior is completely against the ethos of the military and our Nation.” – Well done, Sir.
V/R Grumpy
My understanding is the reason he was tried in civilian court was because he was out of the service before the charges came forward. 25Z is the winner.
Oh, I don’t know: Strip him naked and have him participate in naked pyramids, stand on buckets with a hood and fake electrical wires clipped to him, then have a ‘looker’ like Spec. England laugh at his privates for a while . . . all that “torture” ought to placate the left and the Iraqi’s, no?
Well, really, death penalty would be suitable punishment for the whole group of thinkers who did this. Question: I can understand one bad apple, but a whole group of them doing this? Who was in charge of these perps and who allowed them into or to remain in our military until they did this?
I don’t take all day when cleaning the outside of my toilet bowl. In a similar vein, I see no need to linger over favored treatments or othersuch gruesome ways to get rid of this turd. A swift and public execution (I’m thinking something like a headshot or a hanging; maybe local tradition demands a beheading) and leave the corpse to the carrion-eaters while the rest of us get on with whatever is next on the “to-do” list.
I’m with 15Z on this one.
Perhaps the US could reactivate him and then second him to the Iraqi Police to assist in their future separate investigation.
We could just send ‘em a telegram or something when we wanted whatever is left of him shipped back to the states, should that ever happen, for science experiments or something.
It would be another crime if he were to live another five years.
“Because he deserves it.”
Indeed! Flog him through the fleet first. Then run him up the yard arm of the flag ship.
Oh. He was Army.
Hanging in the square, with Regimental Parade, “Dirge For The Unmourned,” and all that. Public, of course, in Iraq. A man shoots his own dog.
I think the Military can call a separated man back for charges that took place while on active duty. The law that allows civilian courts to try him was passed at the request of the Military. It does simplify things a bit. If he gets death, however, he doesn’t hang, he gets it through an IV. Too bad. He should die a violent death himself. It’s part of the retributive justice the situation demands.
Q’Master: you left out the singing of “Hang Down Your Head, Tom Dooley”. other than that, i’m with ya.
make him dance.
You forgot “on air.”
Quartermaster … I’m with you about retributive justice. If someone has killed someone brutally, one should not be allowed an easy death. Maybe in his last agonizing moments at least, he can learn something of what pain he gave. I’m a firm believer that we are put on this earth to live a life of learning and gaining wisdom. That’s why we’re here. And this person has remained willfully ignorant. Let’s start him off properly on his journey.
Marianne
I would agree if the wisdom and learning is about God and what he expects from us. The country has pretty much flushed its christian foundations. That’s why we now execute “humanely.” Alas, we don’t administer justice anymore because of all the liberal PC claptrap.
God required execution of those who commit murder. We enlightened peoples, however, wouldn’t engage in something so barbaric as retributive justice. Alas, the non-barbaric types are actually rebels against God.
He is a shame for the service, for America and for mankind in general. Send him to Iraq and let their justice take care of the bastard. Saddam style.