So, yeah, yesterday was some sort of group grope between the Fourth Estate, Hollywood glitterati and the political class. Something of an insider’s tradition. Happens every year. Simply all the best people are invited. Not you.
And each year, the serving president serves up some barbs, fully aware that he’s going to get his own back from the MC. The president did a pretty fair job, from everything I can see. Give the man his due, he’s quick with a joke, or to light up a smoke (but there’s someplace that he’d rather be).
But it must have been tough on poor Wanda Sykes. After all, when it’s your job to roast the president, and he’s so cool, and hip and well… cool. What’s a comic to do?
(Not) since Don Imus roughed up Bill Clinton at the annual event has a comedian been so mean-spirited. But, unlike Imus, Wanda Sykes didn’t lay a glove on the sitting president Barack Obama. Instead, she reserved her barbs for George W. Bush, John McCain, Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. I’m not saying pols and media don’t deserve to have the piss taken out of them. But even watching the WHCA dinner on television, viewers saw the room grew very quiet and then erupt as Sykes seemed to cross the line with what was more harsh partisanship than funny comedy.
It’s 2009, and all the unfunny, bug-eyed, spittle-flecked, two-minutes-hate slots are filled. Keep this up, and comedy will soon be going the way of the newspaper.
BTW, you’ve got to love the commentariat over at Nikki’s place:
Those bastards deserved it. I just watched the show on C-Span and, frankly, as you said she was viscous but after Abu Ghreb, Katrina and every time Hannity and Limbaugh wake up in the morning still alive, she wasn’t viscous enough.
I’d like to see Sykes more viscous too. Maybe at Abu Ghreb.
Syke’s performance and the comments over at Nikki’s are only part of a long line of growing evidence that this country is beginning to look like the universe M.C. Escher depicts with people in parallel lives going up and down both sides of the same staircase oblivious to each other–only we aren’t oblivious, just leading separate lives with no common bond–sort of like the Flemish and Walloons in Belgium–that’s our future–only our separate languages are cultural.
Viscous, ehh? How about gelid? Whoever the nitwit was who made the comment should have dictionary.com on his taskbar. [I know I do.] Problem is, that person doesn’t care if he spells well or not. And he obviously can’t let go of his hatreds.
Or is my comment too vicious?
Marianne
Yes, viscous. They are pretty thick, ya know? Just sayin’.
I agree that was a good play on words, and that I would also be lost without a dictionary/encyclopedia/thesaurus available at a mouse click.
Still have the books, though they do not get much use now.
No, I think it was spelled correctly- perhaps referring to Sykes brain matter.
Viscous. All oily and petroleum based, eh? Maybe throw some molasses on her instead. That stuff is really viscous!
Or perhaps it was just a comment on the thick headed state of liberalism in the US today. All piss and vinegar talk in public and no balls or backbone to back up their tough talk with action unless its against someone they think won’t fight back.
There isn’t a one of them who has the balls to face W to his face and spout their venom, especially now that he’s a free Man and has no one to answer to.
Like Dad always said, “a big mouth don’t make a Big Man.” Liberals are proof of that.
Subsunk
You really don’t know what you’re talking about do you?
Try watching Colbert’s roast of W at the 2006 Press dinner if you think no one has the balls to spout venom to his face.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-869183917758574879
Dubya would take it in stride and not, say, use his weekly radio address to retaliate. The man did put the office first, his family second I like to think, his subordinates third and himself last.
Those used to be called the qualities of a gentleman. Or a leader. Today? Not so much.
– Max
But you see, Wayne, unlike Sykes with Obama, Colbert could safely rest assured that ever the gentleman Bush wouldn’t thuggishly (the Chicago Way) threaten to use all the powers of his office to break him to express his displeasure, as Obama did with the Attnys representing the Chrysler bond-holders.
(PS:I don’t know about you, Wayne, but I grew up in Illinois–I’ve witnessed the “Chicago Way” first hand. It’s NOT the figment of a feverish right-winger’s imagination.)
“especially now that he’s a free Man and has no one to answer to.” I guess I should also have said face to face. It is highly doubtful that Mr. Colbert would say anything so disrespectful to Mr. Bush had they been the only two persons in the room….. because there would still have only been one Man in the room in that case.
I saw Colbert’s tasteless roast and watched as a Better Man than Colbert took the crap Colbert spouted and was gracious in his refusal to make a scene defending himself in front of cameras and the Press who hated him so vigorously. Even though President of the United States, I have never seen a Man so vilified in the American Press as W was and continues to be. W was the (much) bigger Man in that room.
As for whether I know what I’m talking about, I’ve been a student of history all my life, a student of Leadership ever since Grade School, and a student of Honor and Courage since my Pop first slapped my ass for lying to him about who broke my brothers’ toys.
Ain’t never been an expert, but I know success and good character when I see it. I’d follow W to Hell carrying gasoline if he asked me to do so. He has earned my respect and my trust because of the way he treated our military folks and the great pains he took to meet with those his orders wounded or killed. He faced them and has yet to be found wanting. And because he faced them, and answered them when asked, and kept faith in them, they love him, respect him, and always will……..
You can’t fool a dogface forever. They’ll know the measure of you once they’ve spilt blood for you. And no human being can hide that lack of respect or failure of Leadership from the troops being led.
Subsunk
f*ckinAright, Subsunk. You can fool the press and the American people, but they don’t have skin in the game. Lincoln was villified but respected by his soldiers, so too was it with Reagan, and so too was it with W.
Word.
Ask the folks who are involved, because if they aren’t part of your solution, they will DEFINITELY be a part of your problem.
Come on guys, now let’s hold each others hands and become multi-viscosity, for change.
I just scrolled up and found “buffoonery.”
סלה
Not going to happen. I’m 10W30 kind of guy~!
Another entertainer added to the list…
“…comedy will soon be going the way of the newspaper.”
Speaking of comedy, if only someone had hacked this graphic (below) into the background at the dinner, now that would be funny. Things your grandkids won’t understand: analog clocks, cursive writing, newspapers.
http://www.stickycomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/grandkids_dont_understand.jpg
It is a takeoff on the three monkeys (see, hear, speak — no evil).
Instead, it is (no see, no hear) current evil and spout evil.
The moonbats really hate this country, and will do anything to bring it down.
“Hate this country?” Hardly.
It’s more like, “Love this country, but disagree with me about how it should be run.”
I disagree with lots of folks opinions. That doesn’t mean I “hate” them.
If the disagreement is with the ones who run it, then why take on talk show hosts, TV commentators, and a plumber on the street of his own neighborhood? Those are the targets used and abused for the entertainment of the political class.
How about serious debate? If you don’t like it, then what’s your suggestion? Over the last several years, here and on many other blogs, there are those who come to bit#* and never have any response to : So, how would you do it differently?
Yep…what I thought…it’s really about not getting your way, what ever that is at any given moment where you feel “offended” or “oppressed.”
Not to mention how any “critique” of the sitting President is labeled as Hate Speech.
The challenge of the comic is to make people laugh. Near as I can tell, in a standard audience made up of a random sampling of the population this group would have made about 53% laugh.
The other 47% they’d have anoyed or angered.
Reminds me of the time when we had celebrity roasts on television, Dick Martin being the star of the show. It was funny, it was entertaining, it was in prime time.
Then they roasted Jeff Foxworthy. A comedian who never swore in his routine, I might note. The roast could not be broadcast on public networks.
Reminds me of kids learning a swear word and discovering it brings attention when used. Based upon this observation, I’ve granted them the maturity and intellect their grasp of grammar seems to evidence.
When they can rise to the level of a Bill Cosby, or a Tim Conway, or even a Red Skelton, I’ll consider turning on the tube again.
– Max
Ah, yes we knew it would happen. One can’t even have a night off in the world of politics-every stinking word matters.
Give it a rest- I like spicy mustard on my hamburgers too. Ketchup is for fries.
I happen to like Dijon mustard too. With ketchup. And the critique was on the comic, not the president.
OK Lex, you’ve done it now! The condiment wars!! Me: Yellow Mustard ONLY on burgers or cheezeburgers plus lettuce, onions pickles. NO Ketchup–EVER. (But will tolerate if necessary at fast food joints) Alt? OCCASIONALLY Spicy mustard w. Mayo. Steakburgers sans bun? Worcestershire sauce or steak sauce. Ketchup for Fries. THAT’S THE LAW, BUSTER!!
I’m not so low class at that. German Mustard for me, and Heinz 57 for my medium well steak.
Dijon! I can’t believe one of our own would desecrate his body with such stuff.
QM? The spicy stuff for me is always Zatarain’s Creole Mustard. (Also puts money in the pocket of a fraternity bro of mine, Charlie Zatarain, who now runs family business–receipe IS from the German, tho, NO always had/has huge German immigrant presence)
Myself, I am partial to mayo and tomato slices on my burgers, or skip the bun, add a slice of cheese and smother in grilled onions. Some slaw on the side, and a cold beer and life is good.
Hotdogs we serve on a bun filled with cole slaw.
Anything else usually gets a dose of “Sweet Baby Ray’s Barbecue Sauce.”
Except eggs, which, along with the hash browns, get a large dose of ketchup and tobasco.
Mustard-wise, though, I must admit to being partial to a South Carolina mustard-based sauce. Wicked good, that.
Interesting you should mention Sweet Baby Ray’s, it’s one of the few BBQ sauces I like that are available locally. Apparently, Germans and Norwegian farmers aren’t real hot on, well, hot food, and take to the sweeter sauces.
Which reminds me of a story.
There’s a BBQ spot down in Des Moines, IA, called Big Daddy’s Bar-B-Q. I understand the owner died recently, but when he was alive he was regionally famous for having sauces that would leave you in agony. Not just hot, sweat-on-the-forehead hot, but in agony calling the ambulance hot.
He had a challenge, if you could eat a sandwich with his hottest sauce on it in 20 minutes and keep it down, you and some number at your table ate for free and he donated something like $500 to the Food Bank of Iowa. Lose, you pay full price and kick in another $500 for the Food Bank.
I hope I have that right. It’s been years, and memory is hazy.
So anyway, I had a buddy going to Drake University in Des Moines, and I headed there one weekend. We went to Big Daddy’s place for supper. My “friend” ordered a sampler of some sauce called “Checkout Time”, and asked that I try it.
After warnings from Big Daddy himself and the offering of a toothpick, I dipped the end of the toothpick in the sauce and applied it to my tongue with a short stroke.
I could *taste* the line on my tongue. For about 40 minutes. It was kind of like recovering from surgery, the pain of a cut that hasn’t healed yet.
So I bought a bottle.
Back home, the engineering team would often do a group lunch during the week. One particularly obnoxious co-worker was from India, and enjoyed spicy food. Enjoyed it so much, in fact, that he felt obliged to spice up the salsa for everybody when we ate Mexican, or Thai, or whatever. Seemed to take pleasure in having all the chips and salsa to himself when the rest declared it unfit for consumption.
So I brought my bottle the next time we ate out. I advised him that it was a hot sauce, and was to be treated with the utmost caution. It was, after all, from Iowa. I offered a toothpick that he might sample it.
He dipped a chip into the bottle, I signalled *stop* and he looked at me defiantly for a second and then ate the chip.
Five seconds later he was in agony.
Which, you know, was cool by me. I got to eat his burrito since he sure as heck wasn’t going to stop sucking on that glass of water any time in the near future to bother with his lunch, and boy did I learn a lot of new signs that they do *not* teach in ASL class.
Come to think of it, I still have that bottle. It’s been opened, and not refrigerated, for at least 10 years now.
Huh.
It’s probably still good. I cannot imagine a life form that could possibly live in it.
– Max
I like my burgers mostly dry with just a touch of steak sauce on them to draw out the flavor. Anything else just adulterates the burger.
A good spicy mustard (for those of you that have ever had the pleasure of eating at Philippe’s in Los Angeles, you know what I”m talking about) on Roast Beef is good but keep it off my burger!
Well that’s just what we’d expect from a godless communist bastard and his sub-human immoral corhorts and…
Oh, wait. Spicy mustard?
Well, so long as it’s spicy, that fits within the Big Tent platform.
Sorry, my bad. Go on about your business.
But if you *ever* consider salt and mayo on fries you’ll leave me no choice but to prosecute you under the Un-American Activities Act.
– Max
Mayo on fries? YAK! I have never understood the attraction, but then, I am the sort of chap who puts Heinz ketchup on burgers.
SCOTTtheBADGER/
Ketchup on burgers? You Philistine you!
But then so is YAK in the UNIVERSE of VIRGIL.
Max/
You sure your guy from India was a true “scientist” 0f any sort? (“Course are you nuts & bolts “engineers”–even those of you whose “bolts” are electrons–considered well-rounded and educated enough to be called true “scientists?”
) Because it’s a poor scientist that doesn’t know enough basic chemistry to know that one fights an acid (your hot stuff from–ye gods–of all places Des Moines) with a base, i.e., a large glass of cold, cool MILK, and NOT H2O–which only prolongs the agony–even makes it worse.. Some “scientist” indeed. HA! Even us’n BS artist BA Fine Arts major types have enough basic HS chemistry to know that. 
In an emergency, you reach for anything that looks like a fire extinguisher.
Seriously, most of the adult world outside of the US is Lactose intolerant, running as high as 95% in some areas. The Indian guy probably hadn’t had any milk in years, and so didn’t think about it. Hot Tea, however, should have come to mind.
Skippy, it ain’t about spice…it’s about hate. Quit making excuses for the class warfare folks.
Byron — remember, Skippy is the one that thinks there is no problem with folks that make over a certain income paying for all of Obama’s dreams. He isn’t making excuses for the class warfare folks — he IS one.
The difference between Sykes’ venom, and the oft cited Imus and Colbert gigs, were that the latter were pointed at someone in the room — Sykes’ were pointed at others, since the main guy in the room, is off limits, don’t ya see?
The day that Obama has the cojones to poke fun at himself, like Chimpy, or laughs while his wife rips him a new one, then I will be amazed. But, it is hard for Messiahs to laugh at themselves. Principled leaders find it pretty easy.
Yes,
Heaven forbid that the halo should be dimmed, or skewed a bit, eh?
I guess I just never realized that Narcissus had been resurrected. Sigh…
No I don’t make excuses for those who stand up for basic fairness-maybe when I get to be as rich as some on the other side, I’ll see it differently.
Besides- no on should use the word principled in any sentence about George Bush.
Seems to me that the venom from either side is about the same-or have you been listening to some of the drivel coming from right wing pundits these days?
The rhetoric is about the same from left and right. What is mean and who is mean depends on whose side of the fence you are on.
I don’t have to be a rich boy to see it’s fair to be able to keep what you earn. Just because the government takes from a rich boy to give it to someone that didn’t earn it, and has no desire to earn anything (a very degrading thing to happen to the poor and leads to the sense of entitlement we see among those on the dole) is nothing but theft. If it is wrong for me to take money you earned, by force, and that’s exactly what the government does, and give it to someone else, it is just as much theft when the government does it.
The real issue, however, is not about charity, or helping anyone. It’s all about dependency and power. That’s why the left is destroying the schools while they send their kids to places where they will get an education.
It really is time you grew up, Skippy. The world has never worked according to liberal ideology, and it never will. It simply ignores the reality of human nature, and then fights it, when it should be channeled instead. The poor need to work, not be degraded by the dole. That is why God commanded the landowner to preserve a certain part of the field to be harvested by the poor. Harvesting it and giving it to them, with no work involved, leads to idleness and a lack of accomplishment.
Every stinking word does matter when the speaker wishes someone dead. Among other things, Sykes wished Limbaugh’s kidneys would fail.
That leads to death.
Aside from her cracks about Limbaugh being the 20th terrorist and something about Paling not being there – I found that offensive.
Words do matter when someone wishes for someone else to die – especially when it’s said in front of the President, who is supposed to be the object of the roast.
More ridiculous adoration of a man who has done nothing in his life to earn such behavior.
Concur.
Now, what about the gay man who was killed in WY…and it was that crime that put the major momentum behind the Hate Crimes laws.
And the guy in OK, with the “Abort Obama, Not the Unborn” is pulled over, cuffed, taken to jail, then has the Secret Service “request” a tour of his home, to make sure he’s not part of any “hate groups.”
So, it’s OK to wish death on the conservatives, but it’s a hate crime to say something “offensive” to a minority?
I don’t endorse either. I hate (yes I do) the accepted hypocricy that the Left wallows in, and then says “it’s just satire.” Change a few names and see how far you get…
Words do matter, when you are invoking action. Something about no right to yell “FIRE!” in a crowded room comes to mind…but maybe I’m just a dinosaur now.
Well then xformed – I guess I’m a dinosaur right along with you.
My favorite was the Stegasaurus.
I’m holding out for that sea critter they recently found with the head the size of a man….and had a long neck and prowled the early seas….seems it was quite the efficient killer on the block…Predator X, I believe is the unofficial name.
If I had known Wanda Sykes would spew the venom she did about Bush, I wouldn’t have bought “Over The Hedge” last year. They had her supply the voice of the right character, however, the Skunk!
The President could have just given this performance a reprise. It appears the audience found him pretty funny.
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What, they didn’t say anything about Halliburton? You know, all those sole-source contracts that made the VP rich?
Back in for another pass on the tgt. Joe S. of “Morning Joe” made the comment that the crowd was so in the tank for Obama that they sounded like squealing teenagers. Said (sarcastically) that: “I heard sounds from that crowd that I’d never heard adults make before. Are you sure that a bunch of young teenagers weren’t invited and in the room or something?”
The bloom is definitely NOT off the rose yet with this crowd–and probably never will be. Let’s not kid ourselves about the hope that the MSM will “come to it’s senses” and start reporting reality or questioning motives, fine print, etc. Talk radio and the blogosphere are our ONLY hope–and Obama knows that–hence all the moves/proposals to “regulate.”
(Strangely, some in the Canadian, Aus, and English Press are already beginning to be aggressively critical, so there’s also a glimmer of hope in that direction)
Probably the best response I’ve seen on the rank hypocrisy that permeates this entire sordid affair – the gutlessness of Sikes, the lunchroom erupting over the pep rally skit, and the refusal by the cognoscenti, to see any of this as over the line, comes from Ben Shapiro:
Ohh Scott — I so agree with you about Sykes. My husband wrote a book about sharks some years ago. He listed a fascinating small shark called a ‘cookie-cutter’ shark, which attacks other sharks near its own size and dolphins. It cruises up to the side of the animal and fastens its mouth into the hide, taking out a round chunk of hide and flesh. Just like a cookie. If the animal attacked is big enough, it survives the attack. Later on, if it is killed by something else, one can see the round ‘cookies’ of flesh missing from the carcass. Wanda is your basic ‘cookie-cutter’, except in this case, she’s too cowardly to make a run at the present people in power. Instead, she attacks the Big Guy, who isn’t even at the party.
Cowardly, that.
Marianne
The cookie cutter shark? There’s a fascinating bit of rumor about those sharks, the sonardomes of 688-class subs, and shipyard workers reporting holes in same that had people running in circles trying to figure out if the Evil Commies had somehow managed to gain intelligence on our sonar systems while the boats were operating.
I’m sure it’s mostly made up, but like any sea story it gets better every time it’s told.
– Max
Cookie Cutters are cool little sharks. One has to admire a foot long shark that dines on Blue Whales. Marianne, what is the name of your husband’s book, I love sharks, and would like to read it. As far as us being dinosaurs, I am most like the Daspletosaur, the short, stocky Tyrannosaur.
Skippy — situational morality is no morality at all.
Besides, soon the real cost of paying for all of Obama’s dreams will become evident. That wall you think isolates you from those whose money you have no problem stealing? It will be delicious to hear you squeal like a Deliverance city boy when it moves to include you.
Isn’t envy one of the seven deadly sins? VX — I am betting you are a product of the NO parochial system. Help this poor protestant out here.
Scott,
Some good Catholic teaching for you:
The poor ask for the right to share in enjoying material goods and to make good use of their capacity for work, thus creating a world that is more just and prosperous for all. The advancement of the poor constitutes a great opportunity for the moral, cultural, and even economic growth of all humanity.
Now what any of this-or lectures about morality- has to do with liking or disliking a comic-well that is beyond this skeptic’s ken.
Skippy, I’d like to counter with the Ten Commandments, as I recall them via commentary via P.J. O’Rourke. His is the best I’ve read, so I quote without permission:
“And then there is the Tenth Commandment. ‘Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor’s.’
The Ten Commandments are God’s basic rules about how we should live — a brief list of sacred obligations and solemn moral precepts.
The first nine Commandments concern theological principles and social law. But then, right at the end, is ‘Don’t envy your buddy’s cow.’ How did that make the top ten? What’s it doing there? Why would God, with just ten things to tell Moses, choose as one of those things jealousy about the starter mansion with in-ground pool next door?
Yet think how important the Tenth Commandment is to a community, to a nation, indeed to a presidential election. If you want a mule, if you want a pot roast, if you want a cleaning lady, don’t be a jerk and whine about what the people across the street have — go get your own.
The Tenth Commandment sends a message to all the jerks who want redistribution of wealth, higher taxes, more government programs, more government regulation, more government, less free enterprise, and less freedom.
And the message is clear and concise: Go to hell.”
Seems to me the Good Book clearly indicates the way for the poor to advance is via effort rather than taxing one man’s bread and giving it away as welfare to another.
Or did I mis-read that commandment?
– Max
Max, Max, Max …
If you’re going to interpret the Tenth Commandment that way, then how are you going to interpret the
variousnumerous admonitions throughout the Bible that follow the theme of taking care of the windows and orphans among you? Isn’t there even something about being your brother’s keeper?Sure, you could interpret them as admonitions to us as private individuals and say that nowhere does it make this the government’s job, but then again we could argue the same thing about the Tenth Commandment, couldn’t we?
I’m just not so sure that you can be that sure that God’s intent was to tell those who favour redistribution of wealth, government programs and government regulation to go to hell. Perhaps we should ask Him directly?
The advancement of the poor constitutes a great opportunity for the moral, cultural, and even economic growth of all humanity.
Ah, but by what methods is that best accomplished? That’s the rub, here…
Skippy — the “poor”, which I suspect you to mean those fellow Americans below the poverty line, are rich beyond belief to many in this world. The $21K (for a family of four) poverty line here, dwarfs the $1100 per capita income in Mali, for example. When the Pope talked about “creating a world…”, I don’t think he meant a hammock for Americans that squandered the incredible advantages they were given, relative to the rest of the world. I think he meant what he said.
This has nothing to do with your simplistic reduction of just being about “liking or disliking a comic”. It has everything to do with a President, who in a public setting, turns to his neighbor, and chuckles over the prospect of the death or torturing of his political opposition. But then, a guy who can make fun of Special Olympians is a guy with no principles, so maybe you’re right — move along, nothing to see here.
PS — are you suggesting that religious teachings have a role in setting public policy? Dangerous grounds, there Dr. Robertson.
No I’m not. But as I recall you brought up Protestantism.
Besides-the quote from the Bishops can also make sense in a secular meaning.
Since we’re bringing the faith of bishops into the discussion, remember who said this? “The poor you will always have with you.” (Hint)
Which I believe can also have a secular meaning.
He also said something about a rich man and an eye of a needle too……….
My conscious is clear so long as the all-girl spending team keeps firing away on all cylinders…
Have you given any consideration why he said that about the rich man? Have a hard look, a veeeery hard look at Soros, and Buffet. Consider well, since the most of the not so rich have the very same attitudes both of those liberal idiots have. They both got rich off the system, then turn against it, particularly hard in by supporting Barry Soetero, in Buffets case, and criminality with ACORN, in Soros case.
The world is not as the liberal likes it, that is a fact. The liberal, however, denies the rest of reality and fights to change things. Like the 2nd law of Thermodynamics, you may push entropy back a bit, but it eventually wins. The victory is much harder when you fight it rather than channeling the forces that cause it. That is the liberal’s leading weakness, and they are stupid as they willfully blind on the matter.
Skippy — that passage isn’t to condemn those who have wealth — a common mistake . It is to serve as a warning against the self importance that frequently comes with riches. The “eye of the needle” reference is to a passage through walls — not to a sewing instrument. It was possible for a camel to pass, just took a lot of effort. That is reflected in the passage that follows — the disciples ask, who can meet that standard? Jesus replies, “With man it is impossible, but with God, all things are possible.” It was an admonition to the self reliant, to acknowledge the source of their wealth, which would enable them to enter the Kingdom of God.
Protestant teaching.
Scott, I never heard the reference to passing through the eye of a needle as meaning anything other than a sewing instrument. The rest of your comment I agree with but a wall? What’s that all about?
ScotttheBadger … We think sharks are cool too, obviously. Downs’ book is entitled “Sharks! The Mysterious Killers” by Downs Matthews and was written as the companion book to the Discovery Channel’s Shark Week and published by Park Lane Press. It can probably be gotten in the public library in the science section, if you’re really interested. Like all his books, it’s very interesting, and since I helped him by pre-press copy-editing, it’s graven in my memory, along with a lot of other fascinating but useless stuff.
Thanks for your interest, my friend. And I’m working away on discovering where I can get one of my concert tapes put on CD. And then how I can get it to you and the other gentlemen and ladies who are interested in ancient music. Hee hee.
Marianne
QM,
So there is no chance , whatsoever-that they want to do something good with their money? I’ll defer to your thinking on Soros-but maybe Buffet might be on to something? He did not get to a gazillionaire by being stupid.
I guess the thing that I do not understand is that -however reprehensible Sykes remarks were, why the conversation always comes back to taxes and government. Seems to me those are two different conversations. I thought we were talking about Wanda Sykes.