America is putting the final touches to a hugely ambitious peace plan for the Middle East, aimed at ending more than 60 years of conflict between Israel and the Arabs, according to Jordan’s King Abdullah, who is helping to bring the parties together.
The Obama Administration is pushing for a comprehensive peace agreement that would include settling Israel’s conflict with the Palestinians and its territorial disputes with Syria and Lebanon, King Abdullah II told The Times. Failure to reach agreement at this critical juncture would draw the world into a new Middle East war next year. “If we delay our peace negotiations, then there is going to be another conflict between Arabs or Muslims and Israel in the next 12-18 months,” the King said…
(The) King insisted that what was being proposed was a “57-state solution”, whereby the Arab and entire Muslim world would recognise the Jewish state as part of the deal.
“We are offering a third of the world to meet them with open arms,” said the King. “The future is not the Jordan river or the Golan Heights or the Sinai, the future is Morocco in the Atlantic and Indonesia in the Pacific. That is the prize.”
It’s rare, I think, that promising war has ever led to peace.
My best guess is that Abdullah and Obama will put their credibility on the line, and all the usual spoilers will react in their long-accustomed way. Blood in the streets at the hands of those whose existence is defined around resistance. At the end of the day, they will be the only ones left stronger, while the Palestinians – and Israelis too perhaps – if anything more miserable than before.
Still, I suppose something must be attempted. Again.
For Abdullah and Obama, this is one of those “bacon and eggs” deals. Once the plan is launched down range, Obama will be involved, but Abdullah will be committed. The former will survive a failure in a place that brings little else. But for the Hashemite king of a country with an “honor-shame” culture familiar with “power-challenge” responses, it’s quite another thing entirely.
So … you are calling Obama the chicken in that analogy.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that. If the shoe fits and all.
Hmm…Wonder what kind of hash the King as been smoking over in the Hashemite Kingdom? T’was no need for him to put his reputation and/or survival on the line. UNLESS, of course there are hidden undercurrents in Jordan which lead the King to fear Jordan is going the way of Lebanon if things stay the same….
“Hidden undercurrents” like Syria’s victory over the US this winter.
It was decent of him to wait until Hillary was back in the US, and focus was lost etc.
Well then , too bad about the King of Jordan. I’m just announcing in advance that whatever the penalty will be for the failure of the “comprehensive” peace deal, he’s going to be paying it. On the other hand, IF it succeeds, I’ll buy the beers and admit happily that I was wrong. But the odds favor me highly as there will be nothing comprehensive accomplished as there are too many whose lives and livelihoods are defined by their long-proclaimed hate of Israel and the need to see it disappear. And too much money has been thrown at those same people by us and others for far too long – they don’t know what else to do with themselves and they do know that they don’t want the money and attention to stop. Nor do they have the prospects of real jobs, I’d guess.
As I’ve said before hereabouts: Everyone should just admit that the only way to resolve the issue there, so long as the Israeli’s won’t move away and so long as Hamas, and others, won’t change their spots, is to let the two sides go at it hammer and tong – last man standing wins it all. Damned shame, but appeasement doesn’t work well, particularly as Israel will fast run out of parts and pieces of itself to bargain away for “peace.”
‘Tis doomed to failure, of course. As others have noted, to many of the actors in the game have a vested interest in seeing the conflict continue. In fact, many of the antagonists would make sure they don’t get too close to victory, much less a peace settlement.
Having said that, Abdullah is not quite the pig in this scenario. As strong an influence as the honor/shame culture is, the Arab culture has a wonderful ability to shift blame and avoid responsibility for actions taken. If it goes south, he’ll find someone to finger the blame on. Probably us.
In fact,
If I had any money, I’d wager that it’s a win-win for the King and the Arabs, and planned that way. If they get a Palestine out of it, and concessions from “teh eviiilll juice” that results in a smaller Israel, then they can be seen as having “forced” Israel into concessions.
If not, then they get the excuse for war they’ve always wanted, even if it comes with bit a micron-thick veneer of justification.
To my mine, Israel will be at war, full-in, within a year, if not sooner. They will strike at Iran, rather than wait for “The Won!” to dither about and try and hamstring Israel’s strength.
respects,
What Abdullah may be proposing is the “covenant with many” spoken of Daniel 9…
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
It’s fun watching the unfolding of prophecy in the middle east. I shudder at the death and destruction it will bring, but still fascinating.
Indeed. I daresay some have been watching it unfold since Israel was made into a state. It is fascinating – in a trainwreck kinda way.
My dad was a student of Old Testament prophecy. While I always miss him and wish he was still here, it’s times like these those feelings become more acute.
For just 15 minutes with him…
Just an aside here. I’m surprised that no one has yet commented (of course probably have in earlier posts when it happened) about the “57 Muslim States” and Obama’s campaign gaffe made while excusing some OTHER gaffe using tiredness as an excuse, saying he had been on grueling campaign thru 50 of the 57 states, etc., remember? NOW I am reminded all over again of where his head really is. That “57″ number Obama tossed out was no fluke–shows what thoughts are really never far from the surface–all things Muslim. Between that, other comments and writings, his public bowing down incident, his foreign policy speeches–all, all of it of a pattern. “By his deeds ye shall know him,” etc.
The man was being raised as a Muslim in Indonesia. One thing is certain, with all that time spent under “Reverend” Wright, he’s definitely no Christian. I don’t care what Joel Osteen thinks, or anyone else who dabbles in heresy and anti-Christian hate.
Something has come out of the California college where the Obamanation spent his freshman year. Seems he was foreign student, and enrolled under his adoptive father’s last name, Soetero. He also applied for a foreign student scholarship.
The interesting thing is, if this proves out, and the information so far is quite damning, there are going to be a number of conservatives with egg on their face over his citizenship status. IMO, if he was clean, he would simply produce the birth certificate and be done with it. “Birthers” indeed!
Plus, QM, no one has really ever explained how Obama finessed the (documented, and not denied by Obama) Pakistan trip he took when State Dept forbade travel to that nation. Just how DID he get in if not on an Indonesian passport?
And speaking of Indonesia, QM, there is a blog run by a US oilman living/working in SEA out of Indonesia:”An American Expat in SouthEast Asia” who speaks Indonesian and first blew the whistle on Obama whose site you should visit. He quit blogging in disgust on 5 Nov. You should see the last picture he left. Then, a few weeks ago–to show that there is nothing new under the sun in Obama’s headlong rush to Socialism–posted a cartoon from FDR’s days in the 30’s a few weeks ago. GO SEE IT!– AND his 5 Nov. picture final post.
Interesting to find he was one of Corsi’s sources for Barry’s Indonesian time.
Obama is a tool of those who would destroy the US. Alas, both party’s have chimed in on it. Ironically, Lincoln’s Republican Party was the original big government party and have pretty much remained that. The Democrats absorbed socialism along with Hamilton’s centralization ideas (which was, at the core, Lincoln’s guiding philosophy as President) and are driving us down the road Lincoln set us on, to the same cliff the Soviet Union went over.
First time I heard of the guy. Thanx for the direction. Much appreciated.
Jordan is not one of the wealthy oil producing states we usually ascribe to the middle east. Their kingdom is, and has been, at the mercy of the global economy.
How many times have we seen a new US President announce the final peace plan for the middle east?
NOT GONNA HAPPEN!
Jesus Christ has the only peace plan that will end war on this planet forever. The Clintons and Obamas of the world just set the stage for the next round.
Not to mention, but an oil embargo in the Niddle east will not be as damaging to us as it will be to other nations, should war break out.
The United states gets the bulk of it’s imported oil from 4 nations: Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, and Nigeria.
Interesting, no?