Comments on: Washingtonia http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/05/17/washingtonia/ The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy! Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:44:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Michelle http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/05/17/washingtonia/comment-page-1/#comment-365924 Michelle Tue, 19 May 2009 16:21:21 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=9581#comment-365924 Thanks for that, xairboss. I must admit that it can feel like a bit of a tough room at times. ;-) Thanks for that, xairboss.
I must admit that it can feel like a bit of a tough room at times. ;-)

]]> By: Curtis http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/05/17/washingtonia/comment-page-1/#comment-365799 Curtis Tue, 19 May 2009 04:18:57 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=9581#comment-365799 Michelle, Yes, our problem today seems to be one of definitions. The poor Bush OLC tried to toss the matter of defining torture to lawyers and I enjoyed the comment that they attempted the impossible task using their starting point as one taken by lawyers rather than as human beings. Remember sharks, lawyers and professional courtesy? :) A few of us, a tiny few, have a contempt for those that come after and attempt to define a difference of legal opinion as some sort of crime. That's not good for society where the rule of law prevails or should prevail. Totalitarian states use the "law" to sweep up deviants and others who have committed acts that demonstrate that they are enemies of the state. There are those who wonder why solving the simple matter of 3rd world pirates is so intractable today since it was so easy for the last 1000 years. Can you imagine a single lawyer advancing the case that anybody caught on the high seas in an act of piracy has no rights and should be hung from the yard arm? Who wants to pay to bring the scum back to the first world, try them, pay for years of appeals and finally end up housing the pirates for 20 years to life at $115,000/year? von Clausewitz said that in war even the simplest things are hard due to friction. I'm beginning to believe that friction is out of control. We have a gulag for terrorists on a tropical island. Let's build a gulag for lawyers in Shemya and send them all there. Michelle,
Yes, our problem today seems to be one of definitions. The poor Bush OLC tried to toss the matter of defining torture to lawyers and I enjoyed the comment that they attempted the impossible task using their starting point as one taken by lawyers rather than as human beings. Remember sharks, lawyers and professional courtesy? :)
A few of us, a tiny few, have a contempt for those that come after and attempt to define a difference of legal opinion as some sort of crime. That’s not good for society where the rule of law prevails or should prevail. Totalitarian states use the “law” to sweep up deviants and others who have committed acts that demonstrate that they are enemies of the state.
There are those who wonder why solving the simple matter of 3rd world pirates is so intractable today since it was so easy for the last 1000 years. Can you imagine a single lawyer advancing the case that anybody caught on the high seas in an act of piracy has no rights and should be hung from the yard arm? Who wants to pay to bring the scum back to the first world, try them, pay for years of appeals and finally end up housing the pirates for 20 years to life at $115,000/year?
von Clausewitz said that in war even the simplest things are hard due to friction. I’m beginning to believe that friction is out of control.
We have a gulag for terrorists on a tropical island. Let’s build a gulag for lawyers in Shemya and send them all there.

]]> By: xairboss http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/05/17/washingtonia/comment-page-1/#comment-365776 xairboss Tue, 19 May 2009 02:09:25 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=9581#comment-365776 And we all respect you for your decision in the matter. And we all respect you for your decision in the matter.

]]> By: Michelle http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/05/17/washingtonia/comment-page-1/#comment-365775 Michelle Tue, 19 May 2009 02:06:56 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=9581#comment-365775 Dust It was a really hard question. Which I figured was what made it a fair one. Dust
It was a really hard question.
Which I figured was what made it a fair one.

]]> By: Dust http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/05/17/washingtonia/comment-page-1/#comment-365766 Dust Tue, 19 May 2009 01:20:18 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=9581#comment-365766 Michelle, I appreciate your honest answer. I am inclined to think that waterboarding is just over the "ok" side of the line. There are other ways to get what you want without injuring. Or so I have been told. Best, Dust Michelle,

I appreciate your honest answer. I am inclined to think that waterboarding is just over the “ok” side of the line. There are other ways to get what you want without injuring. Or so I have been told.

Best,
Dust

]]> By: AW1 Tim http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/05/17/washingtonia/comment-page-1/#comment-365627 AW1 Tim Mon, 18 May 2009 12:04:07 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=9581#comment-365627 heh, yeah.... probably would have been a good editing.. :) My son is headed over there in a few months. I intend to remind him of this incident. heh,

yeah…. probably would have been a good editing.. :)

My son is headed over there in a few months. I intend to remind him of this incident.

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