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		<title>By: Maritime Monday 163</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maritime Monday 163</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 11:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has &#8220;Academy justice was tilted toward women&#8220;. (Found via Neptunus Lex, which has a ton of comments on the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: sobersubmrnr</title>
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		<dc:creator>sobersubmrnr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 01:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll give ya a big amen! Very well said. Right on the money!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll give ya a big amen! Very well said. Right on the money!  <img src='http://www.neptunuslex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sobersubmrnr</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/05/20/tilted-justice/comment-page-1/#comment-367714</link>
		<dc:creator>sobersubmrnr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 01:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in 1986, the CO of the Frank Cable (AS 40) was relieved of command after being falsely accused of sexual harassment by three female seamen. He was eventually cleared, but by then it was too late. That did it for me, if female seamen can take down an O-6 with false charges, then nobody is safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in 1986, the CO of the Frank Cable (AS 40) was relieved of command after being falsely accused of sexual harassment by three female seamen. He was eventually cleared, but by then it was too late. That did it for me, if female seamen can take down an O-6 with false charges, then nobody is safe.</p>
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		<title>By: xformed</title>
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		<dc:creator>xformed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats, shipmate!  Another generation to make waves....no pun intended...more like stirring the pot, like AW1 does here and elsewhere..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats, shipmate!  Another generation to make waves&#8230;.no pun intended&#8230;more like stirring the pot, like AW1 does here and elsewhere..</p>
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		<title>By: StupidSNA</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to stay out of the larger discussion of women in the military, but I did want to respond to your comment about your son&#039;s fears. 

I heard the &quot;witch hunt&quot; fears from plenty of fellow midshipmen. A lot of &quot;I can&#039;t fry her, because she&#039;ll assert sexual harassment&quot; and whatnot. Frankly, even under Rempt, that thought was a load of crap, if you try to carry yourself professionally and honorably. (I don&#039;t want this to being taken as impugning your son&#039;s character, just as a disagreement with his assessment). That says nothign about the possibly inequal justice of sexual assault cases at USNA.

I&#039;ll probably be accused of being a kool-aid drinker for saying this, but Liz, I think you have misrepresented the USAFA sexual assault cases. Punishment for the misconduct was actively being used as a means of silencing the reporting of sexual assault cases. Admittedly, military sexual assault, especiall of the date rape variety, is phenomenally complicated issue, as you point out. Offer immunity, and you will take heat for inequal punishment; however, the limited reporting options available before the USAFA event led to a situation where the number of assaults being reported (much less prosecuted, and across the board, not just AF) was far, far lower than anonymous surveys demonstrated. We can get in a circular argument about the definition of sexual assault all day, especially in a situation where both parties drink heavily, and consent becomes a very tricky legal position, an argument I don&#039;t really feel like having.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to stay out of the larger discussion of women in the military, but I did want to respond to your comment about your son&#8217;s fears. </p>
<p>I heard the &#8220;witch hunt&#8221; fears from plenty of fellow midshipmen. A lot of &#8220;I can&#8217;t fry her, because she&#8217;ll assert sexual harassment&#8221; and whatnot. Frankly, even under Rempt, that thought was a load of crap, if you try to carry yourself professionally and honorably. (I don&#8217;t want this to being taken as impugning your son&#8217;s character, just as a disagreement with his assessment). That says nothign about the possibly inequal justice of sexual assault cases at USNA.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably be accused of being a kool-aid drinker for saying this, but Liz, I think you have misrepresented the USAFA sexual assault cases. Punishment for the misconduct was actively being used as a means of silencing the reporting of sexual assault cases. Admittedly, military sexual assault, especiall of the date rape variety, is phenomenally complicated issue, as you point out. Offer immunity, and you will take heat for inequal punishment; however, the limited reporting options available before the USAFA event led to a situation where the number of assaults being reported (much less prosecuted, and across the board, not just AF) was far, far lower than anonymous surveys demonstrated. We can get in a circular argument about the definition of sexual assault all day, especially in a situation where both parties drink heavily, and consent becomes a very tricky legal position, an argument I don&#8217;t really feel like having.</p>
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		<title>By: Nose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgive you, but I&#039;m surprised.  You have drank all the other Kool-aid!</description>
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