If you blinked yesterday you missed it, but Playboy – which apparently has an online presence (who knew?) – put up a list of 10 conservative women they hated so much that wanted to, well: Rape them. Oh, that wasn’t the word they used, but this is still a family oriented blog – or at least it will be, until we get our next link from Pandagon – but that’s what it meant.
Apparently surprised that the extended Playboy readership – yes, that’s tongue in cheek – didn’t quite get see the humor in wanting to rape women whose politics they found uncongenial, the website took the post down when a ruckus got raised.
But of course, it’s not over.
Today, Bonnie Erbe - who writes for a news journal called “US News and World Report” (I’m surprised they could resurrect the name after the old magazine went under. What? They never went under? You’re kidding me) says that she finds the whole thing repugnant and offensive. Except for the part about Michelle Malkin:
A couple of caveats are in order. First, I probably disagree politically with much of SmartGirlPolitics.org’s agenda–I know I disagree completely with the group’s position on abortion rights. But as a nonpartisan, I’m also a firm believer in supporting all members of my gender when attacked due to their gender. I am supporting these women herewith.
I also want to note that at least one woman on the list is so venom-spewing, she unfortunately invites venom to be shot back at her: Michelle Malkin. Her posts and her “routine” are so venomous and predictable, in fact, I stopped paying attention to her years ago.
Others on the list, however, are not venom-spewing at all. One woman mentioned on the atlasshrugs2000 blog is a regular guest on my PBS show. Amanda Carpenter, on the show at least, eschews personal judgment of people with whom she disagrees politically. So her inclusion on the Playboy list is much more offensive to me than is the inclusion of Ms. Malkin, although their political views may not differ greatly.
Malkin was just asking for it, being venomous and getting all judgmental on people she disagrees with.
And you though irony was dead.
Well, we can’t expect much more from a “sex” magazine run by a man who looks like he stepped out of a scene from night of the living dead and probably hasn’t had a measurable pulse in years. Rape is funny? Sure, why not. Next week, seductive soiled adult diaper tossing. Whatever works for you, Hef. ::golf clap::
Last I heard the empire, including the mag, was being ruin by Hef’s daughter….
One would think…but then maybe not.
Hey, isn’t it the old “ANY pub is good pub” bit? And God knows, they need it.
Hemochromatosis: “Too much irony in the blood” will kill ya: http://www.healthnewsflash.com/conditions/hemochromatosis.php
Spaz/
Just EXACTLY how DO you find that topical stuff so fast, you dog you!?
VX, I gargle irony for breakfast but using GOOGLE is much healthier.
Truth= venom to the wacky left.
Last I heard the Playboy empire was running on fumes. These days it’s just too tame, I guess.
US News and World Report and Playboy. Talk about controlled flight into terrain.
QFIT? Is that like CrossFit training for the elderly? XFIT
Hate**ck IS NOT rape. It is casual consensual sex with someone you don’t personally like. The author of the Playboy article is talking about shallow “one-night stands,” not violent crime. This is clear in every sentence of the Playboy article.
[Tried to comment on this and a less-than-ladylike word in the URL pushed me into spam territory.]
Just google the Urban Dictionary and check out the definitions (not for the delicate or faint of heart–I bailed out after reading only a few of them). They range from “just short of rape” to definite ideas of less than full consent. It’s not just a shallow one-night stand, and it has strong intimations of violence/revenge and using sex to abuse someone.
Sure, Jem. Keep telling yourself that. In an age when some feminists can somewhat credibly claim that ALL men are potential rapists, that argument sure sells with us.
All I can say for sure, is that I’ve heard the term many a time, an nary a once was it a term of endearment.
You’ve heard that term many times? I must be sheltered, this is the first I’ve ever heard of it. Thanks for that image, Jem. You must be a real gem.
I used to work in an all-male environment. Not for the delicate, the conversations, I can assure you.
Coming home on leave and asking mom to “pass the f*cking butter” was a real risk.
Jem Quinn/
Are you the Jem Quinn musician?
Casual, consensual sex with someone you don’t personally like sort of begs the question of why one might wish to put forth the effort. All that disrobing, finding a reasonably secluded place, checking that one doesn’t offend in the olfactory sense, and then there’s that whole quandary of trying to please a partner enough to keep that partner willing while giving as little as possible because, well, it is a casual moment and one wouldn’t want to stretch the moment into one of meaning.
I can understand casual sex, you see, I just can’t understand it with somebody I dislike.
I dunno, but seems to me that this is sort of like masturbation, except two people feel strangely self-gratified yet not satisfied, plus you’ve a partner who can testify in court.
Sort of makes a sock and a tub of Ponds look appealing in comparison if all one wanted was a casual, consensual experience with somebody they didn’t particularly like.
The article having been removed I’m wondering where Anne Coulter ranked. And Margaret Thatcher.
– Max
OK now we talk about horizontal fitness: xxxFIT.
Must have been the fuzzy navel… I found that “horizontal fitness: xxxFIT” too funny.
Seem to recall some Limey’s referring to “Horizontal PT.”
‘Horizontal PT’ would be “zzzFIT”.
I have to agree with Jem, the term may be indelicate but every time I’ve heard it used it has been in reference to someone you don’t like personality wise but would have sex with anyway, just because they’re:
a) Really hot or
b) you think the mutual dislike might lead to sparks in the bedroom.
Hatef = consensual.
Rape = Not so much.
For the sake of argument let’s say I find Margaret Thatcher really hawt, and let’s further suppose I dislike her personally and her policies even more.
To be Hatef she would have to entice me, wouldn’t she? Which, being a guy, is a pretty trivial thing but can I not have some shred of dignity and self-reliance thrown my way?
It’s possible I’m not interested at that point in time. I mean, there could be a Twins game on!
– Max
Sim/
Are you sure you’re not British? The “Rape=Not so much” bit has GOT to be one of the classic understatements of all time. LOL.
Bloody hell Max, Maggie Thatcher?
I was about to grab a shower, now I’m considering steel wool.
*shivers*
Sorry, Sim, I should have noticed your “bloody hell” comment further down. Can mean only one thing: British or Aussie (with and outside shot you might be Kiwi or S. African of Br. descent from Durban)
Virgil-
Aussie, Victorian.
Durn, I’m glad that I’m of an age where men and women used to climb in the rack together to have a good time because they liked each other at least a little bit. All this newfangled stuff and fancy definitions sounds like work to me.
As for Ms. Bonnie Erbe and her thoughts that it was “okay” to attack/rape Malkin because Malkin “is so vicious”, it says more about Erbe than it does about Malkin.
Hmmm, think Malkin could re-write from the righty side and replace the 10 with our top 10 liberal fems like Clinton, M Obama, Barbara from MD (gotta be mighty drunk for that one), throw in Barbara Streisand, etc. Then wait and see the vitriol really spew from the looney left.
Think we all should download, print, and send to your elected officials with a letter stating that this is a hate crime.
Not even with your equipment and Lex pushing!
Sounds like spam I got recently –
If you get an e-mail labeled “Sarah Palin nude pics”, don’t open. Contains a virus.
If you get an e-mail labeled “Nancy Pelosi nude pics”, don’t open. Contains nude pics of Nancy Pelosi.
Hee, hee. Too funny.
Reading this thread kind of feels like being a fly on the wall in a men’s locker room.
I’d rather have the virus, Scott.
Maggie Thatcher doesn’t count, since she made the list of “Real Men” in the book, “Real Men Don’t Eat Quiche.”
You have to remember that to a liberal, disagreeing with their worldview is vitriolic hate, no matter how reasoned the language, whereas their own habitual use of vitriolic hateful language is merely an expression of their intense commitment to virtue, and has no actual literal meaning that they should be held to account for.
I wish I was kidding, but I’m not. The average liberal simply does not think or behave logically, and they see no need to begin doing so, since the media provides them continuous reinforcement that their ways work quite well.
you sayin’ liberalism is a mental disorder?
Libruls!!! Why can’t they see that Republicans are the only ones who know how to run the country?
No doubt this is considered arch humor.
You don’t understand…
He is showing the world that he has a college degree in librul (f)arts.
“Why can’t they see that Republicans are the only ones who know how to run the country?”
They’re about to. If, that is, they can pay attention to what’s actually happening around them.
DNFTT. That means you, Lex.
Scott,
It’s fun to mess with them every once in a while.
Cruel,but fun!
Actually, Christy Hefner stepped down as CEO of Playboy Enterprises a while back. This last Tuesday a gentleman named Scott Flanders was named CEO. From Business Week:
Playboy’s new CEO says he intends to concentrate on courting new business partners instead of potential buyers for the slumping adult entertainment company.
In an interview Tuesday, Scott Flanders said he believes Playboy can do a better job licensing its bunny logo and other assets. He also expects it to be easier to attract new partners, reasoning that the 18-month-old recession has made more companies receptive to trying different things.
Flanders, 52, will join Chicago-based Playboy July 1 under a four-year contract that will pay him a starting salary of $875,000. He currently runs Freedom Communications, owner of The Orange County Register.
Playboy hired Flanders after signaling its interest in selling the company earlier this year.
You know, I just turned my back for a minute or two [well, maybe a few years] And the strangest thing happened. Folks began to redefine the damnedest things. Back in the 1950s, when I was in college, most of us knew what rape was. And, as still happens now, some of us fell victim to it. Now, all of a sudden, there are new rules, and new definitions. And new outrages. This Erbe woman is a real piece of work. She evidently doesn’t know that rape is a crime of violence and revenge. She apparently equates it with rough sex. And even us old ladies with good memories know it’s profoundly different from that.
I was reading a book review site the other night, and the ladies commenting put forth the idea that James Bond was a rapist. A raapist! Now Bond is a blatant chauvinist, I’ll admit. And he’s very very good at what he does, in bed and out. But evidently, these young women don’t know the difference between the actions of a supremely skilled seducer and an angry vengeful brute. I took exception to their comments, but they wouldn’t back down, until I asked them to define terms — always a good idea when dealing with emotional debates — and a vast silence ensued. No one took up the gauntlet I cast at their feet.
You know, these supposed “new feminist” types have really gotten out of hand. I remember a TV ad from some years ago, where George Sanders is comparing the taste of margarine and butter. His last line, said coyly, is “I can tell the difference. Can’t you?”
You bet, George.
Marianne
A few years back, during a very short career detour into the financial services industry, I got a call from my boss, who told me simply he had an “interesting” assignment, and would I come see him? That was unusually coy, and piqued my curiousity.
The project was Playboy – to determine whether they might prove to be a good investment, and could I go interview Christy Hefner and her people?
On paper they looked like a lot of our other projects – companies that were valued a lot lower than what you would think their assets ought to be worth.
At the time their core business was being chewed up by newer competitors like Maxim in the print category. They were struggling against harder core competitors in film. Licensing revenues weren’t growing much.
They had grown “staid” in their category. They needed “edgier” content to pull in young people and enliven the brand. Stir the pot. Offend more people, etc.
The management team needed to change and it wasn’t going to happen while Hef held a controlling interest. We passed. Hef selling would be the catalyst for change – maybe we’re seeing it now, many years later.
The proper term is this.
Of course that presumes they are worth waking up with-which, in the case of Malkin, can never happen. Erbe actually makes a great point about her-she can dish it out but she cannot take it back.
Besides-its Playboy! Who reads Playboy for serious political criticism? Lighten up Francis!
Gee a little late to this but I see Skippy has commented on MM. I’ll bet he begins and ends his day on MM’s blog. Grudge or otherwise I think poor little unloved Skippy would take on any knothole he could find. That’s what a bitter divorce will do to ya.
Nasty little critter you are Skippy. Even for a Citadel grad.
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