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		<title>By: virgil xenophon</title>
		<link>http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/07/16/jakarta/comment-page-1/#comment-384257</link>
		<dc:creator>virgil xenophon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>babs/

Yes, Diplomad was another one of the Good guys. Your right, my memory probably faulted me, he probably did do more reporting than NS. &quot;Kinshasa on the Potomac&quot; is still active, though, so we still have him.</description>
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<p>Yes, Diplomad was another one of the Good guys. Your right, my memory probably faulted me, he probably did do more reporting than NS. &#8220;Kinshasa on the Potomac&#8221; is still active, though, so we still have him.</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Babs,
Those rats running the British Indian Ocean Territory back in the mid &#039;80&#039;s wouldn&#039;t let us spend the night ashore either.  Bas$ards!  We were there for a month but it&#039;s not like there was anyplace to sleep ashore except in somebody else&#039;s quarters, probably female, most definitely off limits so; all things considered, for the best.

Islam is fundamentally incompatible with modern civilization using the ruleset that the has been adopted by the radicals who seem, at heart, to be Wahib trained and indoctrinated.  The Turks did OK with modernization but they are being destroyed by the generosity of Saudis export of their doctrine of intolerance and hate.  Same thing happened throughout Egypt, northern Africa, Pakistan and Afghanistan.  The other Stans are more open and most definitely NOT arab.  I view the Chechyns as more nationalist than islamist but I think by now they&#039;ve also been allowed to share the fruits of Saudi&#039;s exported hate and death cult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Babs,<br />
Those rats running the British Indian Ocean Territory back in the mid &#8217;80&#8242;s wouldn&#8217;t let us spend the night ashore either.  Bas$ards!  We were there for a month but it&#8217;s not like there was anyplace to sleep ashore except in somebody else&#8217;s quarters, probably female, most definitely off limits so; all things considered, for the best.</p>
<p>Islam is fundamentally incompatible with modern civilization using the ruleset that the has been adopted by the radicals who seem, at heart, to be Wahib trained and indoctrinated.  The Turks did OK with modernization but they are being destroyed by the generosity of Saudis export of their doctrine of intolerance and hate.  Same thing happened throughout Egypt, northern Africa, Pakistan and Afghanistan.  The other Stans are more open and most definitely NOT arab.  I view the Chechyns as more nationalist than islamist but I think by now they&#8217;ve also been allowed to share the fruits of Saudi&#8217;s exported hate and death cult.</p>
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		<title>By: babs</title>
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		<dc:creator>babs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VX - Yes, I used to follow NS but I think the bulk of the reporting on the tsunami was coming from Diplomad...
I certainly miss him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VX &#8211; Yes, I used to follow NS but I think the bulk of the reporting on the tsunami was coming from Diplomad&#8230;<br />
I certainly miss him.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Babs, you go to OTHER sites? :)    

My perception of an Islamic society is that it can be relatively benign as long as you conform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Babs, you go to OTHER sites? <img src='http://www.neptunuslex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />     </p>
<p>My perception of an Islamic society is that it can be relatively benign as long as you conform.</p>
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		<title>By: vigil xenophon</title>
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		<dc:creator>vigil xenophon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Babs/

There was a conservative Foreign Service Officer (FSO) who blogged under the name of &quot;New Sisyphus&quot; (who now no longer does as he has left the service and now intermittently blogs under the heading of &quot;Deep into the Blue&quot; out of Portland, Ore.) who did a GREAT job of exposing the extent to which various NGOs usually hostile to all things military, who, while taking advantage of the Navy&#039;s good graces in providing living quarters and staging areas aboard navel vessels for their civilian personnel during that period, at the same time perfidiously tried to take credit for much of what the Navy, Marines and Air Force did in a quite dishonest and cynical PR campaign--aided and abetted of course, by their friends and allies in the MSM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Babs/</p>
<p>There was a conservative Foreign Service Officer (FSO) who blogged under the name of &#8220;New Sisyphus&#8221; (who now no longer does as he has left the service and now intermittently blogs under the heading of &#8220;Deep into the Blue&#8221; out of Portland, Ore.) who did a GREAT job of exposing the extent to which various NGOs usually hostile to all things military, who, while taking advantage of the Navy&#8217;s good graces in providing living quarters and staging areas aboard navel vessels for their civilian personnel during that period, at the same time perfidiously tried to take credit for much of what the Navy, Marines and Air Force did in a quite dishonest and cynical PR campaign&#8211;aided and abetted of course, by their friends and allies in the MSM.</p>
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		<title>By: babs</title>
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		<dc:creator>babs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently, I have been engaged on another site with a rather lively discussion about Islam with a fellow that claims he is a retired diplomat from the Netherlands and also a Muslim. He seems to insist that we westerners are ill informed about the benign effects of Islam on a general population. That is that only a tiny number of mal contents persue violent means to drive non believers from their lands and generally cause havoc in non Islamic lands.
These bombings so remind me of the tsunami efforts that we employed. I do believe that the Bonhomme Richard was the first American vessel to the scene and I remember distinctly the photos of sailors and marines working a grueling rat line to bring potable water to the victims. (Just as an aside, my son had served on the Bonhomme Richard just prior to this deployment so I took a particular interest in its movements.)The reason I remember this is because our sailors and marines were not allowed to stay on their soil to sleep! This was Ache provence and all American personnell were required to evacuate the territory each night, back to the ship, lest they do something impure during their sleep hours...
If the people of Indonesia as a whole did not want to come under this irrational rule by suicidal maniacs in the name of religion, they would change it.  They would have risen up way back then and told the powers that be that their survival was much more important than the insane religious/political powers that were doing everything they could to keep the population in destitude. That didn&#039;t happen. 
So once again, the Islamists are &quot;attacking the west&quot; with bombings of western hotels. But, are they really? I think no. It is much the same as limiting the life saving efforts of our sailors and marines. They wish to cripple industry and advancement in Indonesia in order to gain greater control. They don&#039;t care how many indigenous people they bring to the slaughter. What better way than to drive off business from the non-muslim world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, I have been engaged on another site with a rather lively discussion about Islam with a fellow that claims he is a retired diplomat from the Netherlands and also a Muslim. He seems to insist that we westerners are ill informed about the benign effects of Islam on a general population. That is that only a tiny number of mal contents persue violent means to drive non believers from their lands and generally cause havoc in non Islamic lands.<br />
These bombings so remind me of the tsunami efforts that we employed. I do believe that the Bonhomme Richard was the first American vessel to the scene and I remember distinctly the photos of sailors and marines working a grueling rat line to bring potable water to the victims. (Just as an aside, my son had served on the Bonhomme Richard just prior to this deployment so I took a particular interest in its movements.)The reason I remember this is because our sailors and marines were not allowed to stay on their soil to sleep! This was Ache provence and all American personnell were required to evacuate the territory each night, back to the ship, lest they do something impure during their sleep hours&#8230;<br />
If the people of Indonesia as a whole did not want to come under this irrational rule by suicidal maniacs in the name of religion, they would change it.  They would have risen up way back then and told the powers that be that their survival was much more important than the insane religious/political powers that were doing everything they could to keep the population in destitude. That didn&#8217;t happen.<br />
So once again, the Islamists are &#8220;attacking the west&#8221; with bombings of western hotels. But, are they really? I think no. It is much the same as limiting the life saving efforts of our sailors and marines. They wish to cripple industry and advancement in Indonesia in order to gain greater control. They don&#8217;t care how many indigenous people they bring to the slaughter. What better way than to drive off business from the non-muslim world?</p>
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