MSNBC rolls out a video of a weapons carrying citizen outside the president’s address to the VFW in Phoenix, acknowledging the 2nd amendment demonstration but noting the “racial overtones” inherent to a “man of color” in the presidency with “white people showing up with guns strapped to their waist.”
Sounds awful when you say it like that.
Just one problem: The citizen exercising his constitutional right to keep and bear arms was black, a fact conveniently hidden by intentionally tight video framing. Because obviously, the only comprehensible reason to agitate against the president’s policies is because you’re a racist.
You pig!
You know, even in the worst days of Soviet-era airbrushing, I don’t think that even Pravda would have been so abandoned, so profligate in their disinformation campaigns.
While acknowledging the man’s rights, I have to say that I’m not a personal fan of open carry at political demonstrations. Tempers are running just a tad too high these “hot days, with the mad blood stirring,” and health care reform – pro or con – is not worth dying over. Not with the Secret Service understandably on edge and teh crazies on the prowl. The point can be made without scaring the straights or hauling out herniated Hitler metaphors.
But the frightening thing to me is not so much that a citizen can go strapped on the street outside while the president is safely ensconced within, but that a national “news” organ would 1) manufacture such a twisted narrative and, 2) think they could get away with it.
Do you ever wonder what we didn’t know about back before there was an Internet?
(H/T to Hot Air)
Lex/
Why are you surprised? These guys are Pravda’s ideological heirs. There is NOTHING they will not stoop to, and do it with a straight-face at the same time. They are absolutely shameless, as they believe themselves to be–like ALL utopian ideologues ALWAYS do–on the side of the Angels and possessors of the absolute truth. And believe you me, they are absolutely certain that the opposition needs be crushed by all means fair or foul, as only truly evil and/or dangerously stupid people would oppose their “progressive” visions of Nirvana once the “truth” has been revealed to one and all as a product of their superior intellect and morality.
Indeed, they are duty bound to do such things–they would be base and recreant creatures if they did not–they have a nation’s soul to save!
(dontcha know)
PS to Lex/
Your last question is scarist of all. Newsmax has a GREAT post up about CBS’s Don Hewitt on the occasion of his death describing the manner in which he consciously slanted coverage during the Nixon/JFK debates, Clinton’s campaign and of Obama’s also at a time when there WERE virtually do alternative media in the first two instances and yet even in the Obama campaign the MSM is shown by Hewitts admissions
PS to Lex/
Your last question is scarist of all. Newsmax has a GREAT post up about CBS’s Don Hewitt on the occasion of his death describing the manner in which he consciously slanted coverage during the Nixon/JFK debates, Clinton’s campaign and of Obama’s also at a time when there WERE virtually do alternative media in the first two instances and yet even in the Obama campaign the MSM is shown by Hewitts admissions
You ask what they got away with lying about in the past. Tet was a complete and total disaster for the Viet Cong but Cronkite et al totally misinterpreted it and sold it to the US as an American disaster when instead it was a triumph.
The ENTIRE press conspired to keep under wraps what a contemptible scumbag John Edwards is and got outed by National Enquirer. To this day, the national press refuses to acknowledge the story there.
Do the people in Massachusetts really know that they’ve elected to the Senate a man who deliberately walked away from a wreck he caused leaving a girl to drown? I would never vote for a scumbag like that.
The left in this country is utterly shameless. What a pity they dominate the schools, teachers unions, public employee unions and the media.
The internet is having its way with exposing the hypocrisy but don’t we all wonder which Kennedy will get the Kennedy Senate seat when the incumbent finally dies? I’m sure the anointed one will find full MSNBC support for his/her remarkable contributions to molesting children in the name of art or some such come the hour. And won’t Kerry be proud…..no longer the junior senator from the state of Massachusetts.
Feel free to delete in its entirety. Long day. It’s not just that they’re so shameless but they’re all so despicable and utterly predictable.
And it gets sillier. A few ears ago the legislature push through a bill to require a special election in case of a Senate vacancy so the then Republican governor couldn’t appoint a Republican to replace Kerry if he got elected President. Today the Boston Globe has a front page story that our beloved uncle Teddy has written the Governor asking that he change the law back to the Governor appointing a replacement. He says it’s so the people of Massachusetts won’t have any ‘gap in representation’. Isn’t that thoughtful of him? That way we don’t have to go through the bother of electing our own representatives. For all of you who will reply that we should vote him and Kerry and Frank out, I would point out that they almost always run unopposed due to the restrictive election laws also granted us by the 90% Democrat government here.
Want to see the future of the US under one party government? Start reading the Globe. Bring a barf bag.
Tangent to main point of this story, but this post reminds me. I’m seriously thinking we need a new amendment to the constitution to restrict senators to two terms and representatives to maybe five. Politics should not be a career option IMO.
How about one term for each? What possible good results from Legislators with “experience?” That just means they’re better at stealing your money and taking away your liberties. One small problem with term limits: the people that will be out of a job if they pass are the ones that vote on them. Oh well.
Be careful what you siwh for. We have term limits for state legislators here in Ohio. They are widely seen as having markedly increased the influence of interest groups because inexperienced legislators tend to be, delicately, less clue-ful than experienced ones and because the legislators’ perceived need to “make a difference” quickly increases the already-present push for immediate results.
Pick your poison. I guess I’m not too impressed with our current legislators for life (i.e Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, What’s his face Murtha, Nancy Pelosi, John Conyers, so on and so forth) apparent imperviousness to special interests garnished by hard years of valuable experience and the fruits that has beared for our republic. Also I’m not sure I buy the whole theory of newbie legislators being more influenced by interest groups because they’re clueless, do they literally not know they’re in cahoots with interest groups? Usually interest groups have to offer a quid pro quo, i.e. I’ll help you get re-elected if you get me something. It doesn’t work when the legislator can’t be re-elected.
As for the need to make a difference quickly I think that has more to do with how unconstrained our government has become, but that might be a valid point. Again, it’s pick your poison.
The politico is a figurehead, it’s the staff that run the show. How else can we come up with a 1000 page bill within a few weeks of the President mentioning a need to hurry along health-care reform, and almost no politicians who admit to reading it?
Somebody had to write it. Somebody had to prepare the summary for The Honorable Senator Snort to review. Sure wasn’t him.
Term limits in and of themselves aren’t bad, but seniority for committees is based upon time in office, which if you’ve an official you like why not keep them around?
I’d advocate for term limits on congressional staff. They’re the unelected who are writing the bills.
Maybe, perhaps, if we start asking our representatives to do their job, write bills, instead of passing it along to some interns, we might see smaller, more easily-understood bills.
– Max
MAx/
And the really scary part is that most of these staffs are, though very bright products of our finest schools, (supposedly) very few have ever lived in the real world, having gone straight from grad school and their MBA, JDs, etc to the committee system in Congress. One study I saw back in 1982 pub. in Newsweek showed the avg age of those on the key tax-writing committees, for example, to be age 26.
The vast majority not only had never held a job outside of Congress, they owned practically NO assets–stocks, bonds, annuities, cash-value life insurance, or even a home and mortgage–their car being their largest and only “asset” for the most part. Point being? These types are almost totally detached from life in the real world as most American’s experience it, and thus a great many of the details of the legislation they write, while grounded in good theory, often bears no relationship to how things work in the real world. Probably be a better system if only qualified retirees who have lived a long time in the real world should work as staffers on such key legislation. (I know, I know, but….)
Lex/
Somehow that PS posted w.o me doing a dam thing in mid sentance–a double post to add insult to injury. The article is titled: “Don Hewitt’s Bitter Specter Haunts Us” and speaks directly to your final question. May be found@
http://www.newsmax,com/lowell_ponte/clinton_hewitt_obama/2009/08/249888.html
Lex/
Somehow that PS posted w.o me doing a dam thing in mid sentence–a double post to add insult to injury. The article is titled: “Don Hewitt’s Bitter Specter Haunts Us” and speaks directly to your final question. May be found@
http://www.newsmax,com/lowell_ponte/clinton_hewitt_obama/2009/08/249888.html
Geeze!! maybe this will work w.o. the comma!
http://www.newsmax.com/lowell_ponte/clinton_hewitt_obama/2009/08/249888,html
Nope–guess everyone will have to hit newsmax site and look under topic heading for 19 Aug.
Believe none of what you read and only half of what you see in the mainstream media.
They are utterly and contemptibly in cahoots with Obama, who has proven himself to be a predictable liar on nearly any subject.
The old network news outlets are the worst offenders, and Associated Press is nearly as bad.
I notice in the article a veteran opined that the rifle was loaded. Because, you know, he saw a magazine. Now correct me if I’m wrong, but last I’d been taught magazines could be empty too. And in a close-in firefight type of situation one generally wants a side-arm, not a rifle. Seems to me MSNBC is quoting a veteran in an attempt to appeal to authority when the true authority, the man with the rifle, seemed perfectly willing to state his reasons for carrying and would have been more than happy to pontificate on the contents of the magazines if so queried.
Might there be a reason he wasn’t asked directly, or shown directly?
Yeah, I think so too.
There’s a reason MSNBC is in the tank for ratings.
I am so glad I gave up cable/satellite/any TV about two years ago. I felt, you know, unclean, paying for this sort of claptrap.
– Max
Max, I didn’t give up on the cable or TV, I just gave up on the news…
I found myself looking for a dial where I could turn up the intelligence on television.
I tried the dial labeled “brightness” but it didn’t work.
– Max
Max you’re dating yourself. Besides geezers like ourselves hardly anyone is left alive who remembers that TVs used to have separate controls for “brightness,” horiz & vert, etc. Hell, even after they did away with those they still let you adj. the color/tint. Now they’ve taken away those options on most machines, too. KISS!! all the way for the generation of the “Stupids at Home” LOL!!
I’m with Byron. Thought I rarely watch any network TV these days (with one notable guilty pleasure – American Idol sorry). I also rarely read any mainstream news online, or at the very least go elsewhere to find the truth when I do.
It is shameless – but I hope we aren’t shocked too much. This is after all the genre that gave us Cronkite, Rather, CNN, MSNBC, etc… What do we expect when Bill Clinton can be forgiven for what he did and embraced by the MSM, that John Edwards can father a child and the MSM won’t really comment on it and when a president can keep this country safe at its darkest hour, be called Bushhitler or worse and the MSM won’t say a word about it – yet a poster of Obama in Joker make-up is clearly racial.
“The People’s Right to Know” and “Freedom of Information”… two frequently cited and well-known sayings with regard to today’s media. “Shameless, liars, inciting to riot” are the new monikers for the MSM, aka Main Stream Media.
This is a blatant example of nothing less than fabrication; pure and simple lying. We can only hope that this obvious wrong-doing is held up to the light of day, the same way our news media all so often claims to do. So many people believe what the MSM says. They have a responsibility and a duty, but choose to lie and incite. THEY are the ones who the problem!!! Shameless, indeed!
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Joseph Goebbels didn’t die in May 45 in that bunker. Minister of Propaganda is alive and well and living in NYC. Well, maybe he did just die. Of course, after seeing the MSM (“mis-informed silent majority”) so vehemently oppose BOH health care plan, maybe that same MSM isn’t so docile as to accept this crap that MSNBC and CBS spout as news ot investigative reporting. The really pitiful aspect is that the brunette bimbo has no clue as to what really occurred, doesn’t care for anything other than “make-up!” and what the news director is whispering in her ear.
American Power tracked-back with, ‘Guy With AR-15 at Obama Rally Was Black Dude: MSBNC Kinda Leaves That Part Out’.
I always laugh when I see how ratings for the major news networks continues to plummet and for some reason the responsible executives can’t figure out why.
I was listening to NPR yesterday, specifically the Dianne Rehm show, and almost wrecked my car listening to the angst of the commentators as the host went on and on about how dangerous all the angry zealots were at the town hall meetings carrying guns, etc.
The host opined something to the effect that she would attend a town hall but feared for her safety with all the assault weapons being brandished, etc.
I’m with our host that it doesn’t make sense to be carrying such things to such a charged atmosphere but I find the hand-wringing and mis-characterization of the actions of a few 2nd amendment advocates who appear to just be trying to make a point so typical of the left (and not even the crazy far-out left) and to be so representative of just how out of touch with what I perceive as the true grass-roots of this country.
I grew up where my Grandfather kept a 0.22 and a 12-gauge loaded and leaning against the wall by the breakfast table (to be ready to dispatch varmints raiding his many vegetable gardens)and thought nothing of it. The occasional “boom” did cause the suburban neighbors to make a few phone calls on occasion but, once provided the explanation, went on about their business. I suppose walking into my Grandparents house and being offered a cup of coffee and the daily Bible devotion in plain sight of a loaded gun would send them running for the hills. If only, we’d all be better off.
The host opined something to the effect that she would attend a town hall but feared for her safety with all the assault weapons being brandished, etc.
Yes, because two town halls among hundreds are indicative of the remainder.
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Don’t send ‘em runnin’ to the hills for crissake, that’s where I”LL be hiding out!
They have hills down your way?
Ron Snyder/
HA! They had to BUILD one years ago in Audubon Park (Monkey Hill) just to let kids know what one looks like! Then we have to our eternal glory MT. DRISCOLL (Ta Daaa!!) tucked away up in the NE corner of LA. The highest pt. in the State, It’s all of a “majestically towering” and/or “highly imposing” 520′ tall! Take THAT! you jealous bastards!
One wonders if a class action slander suit might get their attention. I envision the class members as:
A) All white males who support the 2nd amendment
B) All black males who don’t like being called white
C) All females (black or white) who are tired of this crap
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I feel for the Secret Service agents. I saw somewhere that Obama receives 30 death threats a day.
WRT the media, objectivity has been thrown out the window by outlets on the left and right.
For example, I was reading the CBO report this morning, the one that Hannity cites as saying $1 trillion will be added to the deficit if the particular bill it studied is adopted. Actual figure? Er, if I’m reading this right, $65 billion. Over 10 years. Now, I’m just a schmo who looked it up via Google. Is it beyond the means of Fox to do the same thing? Naw. Don’t think so.
Other than looking up everything myself, where do I go for honest news? Who can I trust?
I’m sure no white President ever received that many death threats a day during an unpopular war…when news “agencies” would hand out Press passes to those who were not reporters, but disruptors and well known to be. How scary is that for the Secret Service when those vetted and given special authority to be near the President begin allowing non-staff to get as close?
Based on the character of one recent President, I’m sure there was not a word of advertising how many threats came in…because to the leader of the most powerful nation on earth, it is a foregone conclusion that it happens…so what else is new?
If we could see the stats, I’m sure the War Criminal had the same numbers to deal with…he just didn’t whine about it.
More shamelss:
Tom Ridge confirms a long-held suspicion among Bush critics, writing in his new autobiography that he “was pushed to raise the security alert on the eve of President Bush’s re-election, something he saw as politically motivated and worth resigning over.”
No, what is “shameless” is taking a USN&WR story, on a book not even published, wrapping it in quotes, and making it appear to be Ridge’s words.
Here is what Ridge said at the time:
Are you saying he was lying then? Or is he lying now? Having seen Ridge, I’d suggest you not share that thought with him in person.
Summat of a one trick pony, aren’t you Alos?
The Secret Service has stated that they don’t have a problem with this, unless the person with the weapon tries to enter the building where Obama is speaking. After watching a town hall meeting in Pennsylvania, where the SEIU and ACORN attack dogs have been turned loose, I would feel pretty uncomfortable without carrying a weapon. I went to this meeting to record on video anything that might happen. Several members of a local veteran’s organization were concerned that they might get the crap beat out of them for being against Obamacare and that the local news coverage might do exactly what MSNBC tried to do here. They wanted an independant record of what happened.
CG:
Not that I think you are a liar or anything, but could you provide a link to Hannity making such a statement. All I could find was Hannity saying that Obamacare would cost the taxpayers $1T. Which, as it turns out, is almost exactly what the CBO preliminary analysis said. Truth be told, he undersold it by $42B, because the cost is actually $1,042,000,000,000.
As far as your statement, “Now, I’m just a schmo who looked it up via Google.” goes, I seriously doubt you did any such thing. More likely you read it on a liberal blog, and regurgitated it here. But even if you did Google it, you obviously didn’t read it. Because if you did, you would have surely noted that this preliminary analysis is based SOLELY on the numbers provided by the Joint Committee on Taxation. In other words, this is the Democrat’s own numbers, with as much of a rosey tint as they can manage. With that in mind, let’s look at the numbers, shall we?
So, we start with $1042B of program costs. First, you offset $219B with “net spending changes” [read: military budget cuts], and $583B with “incrased revenues” [read:new taxes]. That leaves you with a increase to the federal budget deficit of $239B (rounding error). You then apply even more magic to claim only an increase in on-budget deficits of $219.7B In order to get to $65B, you have to reduce costs [read:ration care] by $50B and add another $86B in taxes (I’m sorry, “additional revenues”).
Not quite the picture you tried to paint, is it? And don’t forget, this only comes about by raising taxes to the tune of $648B, and you know what? They don’t even cover all the uninsured. Even their rosey estimates have 24 million uninsured at the end of 10 years. So by rasing my taxes an obscene amount, rationing my care, driving any incentive for new doctors to enter medicine out, and meddling in my personal life to an unprecedented degree, all we will have to show for that is 37 million fewer uninsured. Thanks, but no thanks.
http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=332
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/104xx/doc10464/hr3200.pdf
Did I miss it? I’ve been waiting for a post on the Brits freeing the Lockerbie
bomber? I could use some shared outrage here–the actual freeing of a mass murderer as
some sort of freak show demonstration of what compassionate British Christians do for Islam?
I knew kids, friends, (we were all kids then) from Syracuse U. who died on that plane…their
families deserve better. And please don’t tell me this is the logical conclusion of embracing
diversity (see bikini post), what the brits have been doing is bending over and spreading (um, can I
say that oh filter god?), not embracing diversity…is anyone else angry over this, or are we
all too distracted by the bs that passes as news in this country?
Did you ever google “mccain and forrestal”? I take my google “facts” with a very large grain of salt.
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Funny how you have to seek out that the people carrying were part of a planned event, liaised with the police beforehand and was about a dozen strong. The group never approached the security perimeter.
Worse still, MSNBC did this after a higher rated “news” show had shown the man as being black and tried to joke about the fact that he wasn’t the only one. Apparently, one guy was shouting slogans while carrying an AR-15 but everyone was distracted by the black man with a gun.
Sorry, the higher rated “news” show was The Daily Show>/a>
I carry most of the time, unless I am going somewhere that it is forbidden by law. It’s not a big deal, it’s like having a fire extinguisher by the kitchen door. People don’t come and say, “ZOMG! A fire extinguisher!!11! Are you planning on having a fire? Do you want to be a fireman?!!?” It is just there in case it’s needed, just like the pistol.
I gave up on the media’s credability when Dateline used model rocket engines to make sure that there was a fire for their story on Ford truck gastanks. One piece of trivia. Does anybody know who staged the collision and explosion? How about Jamie from the Mythbusters.
re “I’m not a personal fan of open carry at political demonstrations”
Ain’t that some sage advice. I concur, strongly. That knucklehead was in the crosshairs from a high spot the entire time. I ain’t talking metaphorically here either. Stupid.
Secret Service. We’re talking tip of the SWAT team pyramid. They do what they want. Hi-tec praetorian guards with obsessive-compulsive tendencies.
Not a force to mess with.
re “understandably on edge and teh crazies on the prowl”
What about all those years of stilt-puppet A-holes, Alinsky-ites, Panthers and enviro-terrorists we’ve suffered through along with run of the mill, Islamo-whack-jobs. Equal loons, equal treatment, I say.
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Prowler:
I’m coming back to this way late but I was posting from work and got busy. I think you assume I was being sarcastic or trying to twist numbers. I wasn’t. I read that same link you added to your post, the one to the CBO blog. And I looked it up because I wasn’t kidding about news sources.
But back to the CBO numbers. They DO say $65 billion on the blog page. You’re right in that I didn’t see where the CBO’s numbers were coming from, but then that’s just more disappointing, because I thought I could trust the CBO. It’s the CBO, for God’s sake! In fact, had you not pointed it out, I would have had no idea what the significance was of their source. So, once again, same problem. Where do I go for the ground truth? And to be fair, I DID say “if I’m reading this right.”
There’s a URL here to the Hannity comment, by the way.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539444,00.html
And he’s not the only one saying it. So are you saying a cost of $1 trillion to the taxpayers is going to be the true cost? Because that’s the number that’s hammered home repeatedly. Is that an objective statement from all the media outlets that are repeating it? You yourself came to a figure of $239 billion, so why is the $1 trillion number being mentioned so often?
But the main reason I’m responding to your post, Prowler, is because I honestly don’t feel like I’m getting the objective truth from either side, and I consider myself to be somewhere in the middle.
I’m not trying to “paint a picture.” I’m honestly trying to see the real picture. This seems extremely important to me, and I still don’t know what I need to know.
CG/
Your dilemma is EXACTLY why there is so much angst about in the land–it’s almost impossible for an individual citizen such as yourself to get bottom-line, accurate facts on almost ANYTHING anymore, and increasingly experience has caused us to distrust the motives of those supposedly elected to do the heavy lifting on our behalf to tell us the truth–leaving us all stranded in a “Twilight Zone” of uncertaincy, unable to properly discern on our own if there indeed exists a “problem” or not about ANY given course of proposed public policy. Ultimately, imho, this is the beginning of a long slide into the loss of legitimacy for government and potentially fatal for the Republic in the long run, however the Health-Care debate comes out.