Comments on: Hate Speech http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/10/04/hate-speech/ The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:04:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: RonF http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/10/04/hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-451188 RonF Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:37:49 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=11783#comment-451188 I have been involved in debates on a left-wing blog with not only Americans but those of the European persuasion. It was put to me that America's failure to protect minority/oppressed populations against public expression of viewpoints that in their view seek to perpetuate their oppression calls into question the legitimacy of considering America a civilized country. To their credit the Americans on the list, although far to the left of me, for the most part (with one or two dissenters) disagreed. But America seems to be pretty much standing alone in standing for absolute free speech. Yes, we don't let you yell "Fire" in a crowded theater. But just about anything else goes. Few other countries are as free. Thanks God that the First Amendment is in the Constitution and not just in the U.S. Code or we'd all be in trouble. Having said that; I think the left-wingers I was dealing with have more personal integrity than the people leading organizations such as ACORN or the U.S. Congress. They appear to be ready to sell anything out to pursue their agendas, and shutting up the opposition by defining them as hate-filled nutbags seems to be right up their alley. More to the point in this context, though, is that I would not expect any other country to stand with us and insist on free speech. The dictatorships, oligarchies and theocracys I can understand, as they would be destroyed under free speech. The question to me is why would parlimentary democracies also embrace this? Is the answer that their regimes as well would be threatened by free speech? I have been involved in debates on a left-wing blog with not only Americans but those of the European persuasion. It was put to me that America’s failure to protect minority/oppressed populations against public expression of viewpoints that in their view seek to perpetuate their oppression calls into question the legitimacy of considering America a civilized country. To their credit the Americans on the list, although far to the left of me, for the most part (with one or two dissenters) disagreed.

But America seems to be pretty much standing alone in standing for absolute free speech. Yes, we don’t let you yell “Fire” in a crowded theater. But just about anything else goes. Few other countries are as free. Thanks God that the First Amendment is in the Constitution and not just in the U.S. Code or we’d all be in trouble.

Having said that; I think the left-wingers I was dealing with have more personal integrity than the people leading organizations such as ACORN or the U.S. Congress. They appear to be ready to sell anything out to pursue their agendas, and shutting up the opposition by defining them as hate-filled nutbags seems to be right up their alley.

More to the point in this context, though, is that I would not expect any other country to stand with us and insist on free speech. The dictatorships, oligarchies and theocracys I can understand, as they would be destroyed under free speech. The question to me is why would parlimentary democracies also embrace this? Is the answer that their regimes as well would be threatened by free speech?

]]> By: virgil xenophon http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/10/04/hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-451142 virgil xenophon Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:12:32 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=11783#comment-451142 Edward/ I've become much attached to THIS definition/description of lefties: "Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin." Edward/

I’ve become much attached to THIS definition/description of lefties: “Liberalism: Logic’s retarded cousin.”

]]> By: edward http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/10/04/hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-451141 edward Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:58:40 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=11783#comment-451141 AW1 Tim, Sorry, but lying crapweasel is too kind a term, but I think it is about as far as our gentlemanly host will allow in any discourse. After all, we can't sink to the depths of the liberal blogs (much less their commentariat). AW1 Tim,

Sorry, but lying crapweasel is too kind a term, but I think it is about as far as our gentlemanly host will allow in any discourse. After all, we can’t sink to the depths of the liberal blogs (much less their commentariat).

]]> By: SCOTTtheBADGER http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/10/04/hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-451113 SCOTTtheBADGER Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:47:45 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=11783#comment-451113 Ms. Matthews, TR is constantly on my mind as I listen to the left of today, as Mr. Roosevelt once said, " You must have an open mind, but it shouldn't be so open that geese can roam freely through it". Last Wednesday, I hauled a pickup truck full of laundry to the nearby laundromat. As I washed, the attendant had MSNBC on, and I had to listen to Chris Matthews rant against the evil conservatives. All I could hear was honking from him and his guests. Just as I know that I am approaching Madison, as I head East on US 12, as I start to hear honking about the time I hit the Dane County line. SCOTT Ms. Matthews,

TR is constantly on my mind as I listen to the left of today, as Mr. Roosevelt once said, ” You must have an open mind, but it shouldn’t be so open that geese can roam freely through it”. Last Wednesday, I hauled a pickup truck full of laundry to the nearby laundromat. As I washed, the attendant had MSNBC on, and I had to listen to Chris Matthews rant against the evil conservatives. All I could hear was honking from him and his guests. Just as I know that I am approaching Madison, as I head East on US 12, as I start to hear honking about the time I hit the Dane County line.

SCOTT

]]> By: Ron Snyder http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/10/04/hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-451112 Ron Snyder Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:47:08 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=11783#comment-451112 Mr. AW1 Tim, after due deliberation between the two choices, I have to vote for BHO being a lying crapweasal. Duration of due deliberation was approximately one (1) femtosecond. V/R Mr. AW1 Tim, after due deliberation between the two choices, I have to vote for BHO being a lying crapweasal.

Duration of due deliberation was approximately one (1) femtosecond.

V/R

]]> By: AW1 Tim http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/10/04/hate-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-451091 AW1 Tim Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:00:53 +0000 http://www.neptunuslex.com/?p=11783#comment-451091 What bothers me most is that POTUS is on record, both written, and recorded (sound) as stating that our own Constitution is a "deeply flawed document". That being the case, it begs the question as to whether he still believes that to be the case, for, in my humble judgment, if he does, then that runs counter to his sworn oath to "Protect and defend" the Constitution and is grounds for impeachment. Either he believes in his oath and stands ready to defend it against all comers, or he is a lying crapweasel who deserves to be tossed out of office at the earliest possible time. respects, What bothers me most is that POTUS is on record, both written, and recorded (sound) as stating that our own Constitution is a “deeply flawed document”.

That being the case, it begs the question as to whether he still believes that to be the case, for, in my humble judgment, if he does, then that runs counter to his sworn oath to “Protect and defend” the Constitution and is grounds for impeachment.

Either he believes in his oath and stands ready to defend it against all comers, or he is a lying crapweasel who deserves to be tossed out of office at the earliest possible time.

respects,

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