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	<description>The unbearable lightness of Lex. Enjoy!</description>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Whoopi consideres this &quot;rape&quot; or &quot;rape rape&quot;.  Horrific and despicable act.

Flat and VX are right.  After all, it was a young person that did make the call to the police.  Read up on the story and you&#039;ll see how the good people in Richmond walk in fear everyday.  This will not make things better there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Whoopi consideres this &#8220;rape&#8221; or &#8220;rape rape&#8221;.  Horrific and despicable act.</p>
<p>Flat and VX are right.  After all, it was a young person that did make the call to the police.  Read up on the story and you&#8217;ll see how the good people in Richmond walk in fear everyday.  This will not make things better there.</p>
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		<title>By: ProwlerAMDO</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProwlerAMDO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely some interesting points.  I think civilization rests precariously on a knife&#039;s edge between an actually somewhat passive/docile hard work ethic and ability to get along in society even at the cost of letting some slights against one&#039;s honor go leading to the fruits of a comfortable and peaceful existence, and between the foundation stone of rough men standing ready to do violence to anyone who threatens that peace.  The skills and attitudes that make you good at the one tend to make you bad at the other and it is a difficult balancing act.  I personally believe you on the point that it is better to have a kid from a rough neighborhood as a recruit than a sheltered one.  But the whole thing somewhat reminds me of a quote I like from Thucydides: 

A nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its laws made by cowards and its wars fought by fools

As a libertarian, generally, the draft is something I&#039;m pre-disposed to be against unless it be completely necessary, but at times I fear we are becoming just such a nation as Thucydides warned against.  Jefferson wanted military service to be a pre-requisite for a college degree IIRC but I might be wrong.  Either way I&#039;m now beginning to believe the idea has some merit. 

On the same notion as society resting on the knife&#039;s edge at all times is Mark Steyn&#039;s take on the &quot;hovering roof&quot; philosophy of the left.  That is if you remove all pillars of our civilization like the sanctity of the nuclear family, Judeo-Christian moral values, constitutionally restrained government that may not &quot;help&quot; when it has the power to do so because it will then have the power and license to do whatever else the imperfect whims of its all too human leaders want it to do, etc. then the roof of our freedom and prosperity will just continue to hover in place even though it&#039;s now held up by libertine personal values (or lack thereof) and an all intrusive nanny state that &quot;takes care&quot; of your every need and divorces you from the responsibility for yourself and your actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely some interesting points.  I think civilization rests precariously on a knife&#8217;s edge between an actually somewhat passive/docile hard work ethic and ability to get along in society even at the cost of letting some slights against one&#8217;s honor go leading to the fruits of a comfortable and peaceful existence, and between the foundation stone of rough men standing ready to do violence to anyone who threatens that peace.  The skills and attitudes that make you good at the one tend to make you bad at the other and it is a difficult balancing act.  I personally believe you on the point that it is better to have a kid from a rough neighborhood as a recruit than a sheltered one.  But the whole thing somewhat reminds me of a quote I like from Thucydides: </p>
<p>A nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its laws made by cowards and its wars fought by fools</p>
<p>As a libertarian, generally, the draft is something I&#8217;m pre-disposed to be against unless it be completely necessary, but at times I fear we are becoming just such a nation as Thucydides warned against.  Jefferson wanted military service to be a pre-requisite for a college degree IIRC but I might be wrong.  Either way I&#8217;m now beginning to believe the idea has some merit. </p>
<p>On the same notion as society resting on the knife&#8217;s edge at all times is Mark Steyn&#8217;s take on the &#8220;hovering roof&#8221; philosophy of the left.  That is if you remove all pillars of our civilization like the sanctity of the nuclear family, Judeo-Christian moral values, constitutionally restrained government that may not &#8220;help&#8221; when it has the power to do so because it will then have the power and license to do whatever else the imperfect whims of its all too human leaders want it to do, etc. then the roof of our freedom and prosperity will just continue to hover in place even though it&#8217;s now held up by libertine personal values (or lack thereof) and an all intrusive nanny state that &#8220;takes care&#8221; of your every need and divorces you from the responsibility for yourself and your actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Moynihan was strongly denounced for his (accurate) comments.  Kind of like Bill Cosby was for his.

Guess you are only allowed to speak truth to select groups at select times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Moynihan was strongly denounced for his (accurate) comments.  Kind of like Bill Cosby was for his.</p>
<p>Guess you are only allowed to speak truth to select groups at select times.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will agree, when such persons are concentrated geographically: I hesitate to hold up &quot;the ghetto&quot; as an example, as the issue here is economic and social, rather than racial; however, the British &quot;chav&quot; problem, and their issues with lower-income housing estates seems a good comparison.

Mixed in with the rest of society, or in smaller numbers, as in rural communities, the kids have a chance to experience &quot;normal&quot; life outside the home, even if that home is a disaster. Working with cadets, this sort of person may flourish if given something to identify with, even as late as twelve years of age. Speaking coldly, as far as pros, most are already self-reliant, used to finding their own solutions, and mentally resilient: on the con side, there&#039;s often all kinds of mental baggage to be handled, with varying degrees of success. Still, far easier to work with than a damn suburban bubble-child, used to being ferried from event to event, and otherwise living in front of a screen.

Would be interesting to know the backgrounds of the crowd and the perps... almost no point speculating on social causes without that info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will agree, when such persons are concentrated geographically: I hesitate to hold up &#8220;the ghetto&#8221; as an example, as the issue here is economic and social, rather than racial; however, the British &#8220;chav&#8221; problem, and their issues with lower-income housing estates seems a good comparison.</p>
<p>Mixed in with the rest of society, or in smaller numbers, as in rural communities, the kids have a chance to experience &#8220;normal&#8221; life outside the home, even if that home is a disaster. Working with cadets, this sort of person may flourish if given something to identify with, even as late as twelve years of age. Speaking coldly, as far as pros, most are already self-reliant, used to finding their own solutions, and mentally resilient: on the con side, there&#8217;s often all kinds of mental baggage to be handled, with varying degrees of success. Still, far easier to work with than a damn suburban bubble-child, used to being ferried from event to event, and otherwise living in front of a screen.</p>
<p>Would be interesting to know the backgrounds of the crowd and the perps&#8230; almost no point speculating on social causes without that info.</p>
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		<title>By: ProwlerAMDO</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProwlerAMDO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lex, I&#039;m not normally one to blow smoke but this is one of the best posts I&#039;ve seen on the internet.  Thanks for continuing to provide this forum and regularly posting your insights. (I know, the tip jar&#039;s always open)

I think you hit the nail on the head with the line of substituting the state for the family (an idea that extends as far back as Plato&#039;s Republic).  I don&#039;t know the specifics of those involved in this instance, but if I was a betting man I would bet that many, most, if not all of them came from broken homes.  Daniel Patrick Moynihan predicted the breakdown of poor families would be the result of welfare, which punished nuclear families in relation to &quot;rewarding&quot; single mother families and out of wedlock childbirth.  Our original good natured intent to help the worst sufferers of fate has been transmogrified by the far too often ignored law of unintended consequences into subsidizing the corrosion of the basic moral unit that has carried on civilization since Ur, the two parent mother-father based family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lex, I&#8217;m not normally one to blow smoke but this is one of the best posts I&#8217;ve seen on the internet.  Thanks for continuing to provide this forum and regularly posting your insights. (I know, the tip jar&#8217;s always open)</p>
<p>I think you hit the nail on the head with the line of substituting the state for the family (an idea that extends as far back as Plato&#8217;s Republic).  I don&#8217;t know the specifics of those involved in this instance, but if I was a betting man I would bet that many, most, if not all of them came from broken homes.  Daniel Patrick Moynihan predicted the breakdown of poor families would be the result of welfare, which punished nuclear families in relation to &#8220;rewarding&#8221; single mother families and out of wedlock childbirth.  Our original good natured intent to help the worst sufferers of fate has been transmogrified by the far too often ignored law of unintended consequences into subsidizing the corrosion of the basic moral unit that has carried on civilization since Ur, the two parent mother-father based family.</p>
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		<title>By: RHINOWSO</title>
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		<dc:creator>RHINOWSO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, social networking isn&#039;t the cause.  This happened in the Liberal Epicenter of the country...  nice work Califorina...  real nice...

And people wonder why I carry whenever legal...  Because there is no telling when something bad could happen and I&#039;m not counting on being &#039;protected&#039; by the police...  

Just because CA is burning doesn&#039;t mean the rest of the country is.  Some people still take pride in raising their children correctly, as well as protecting them from harm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, social networking isn&#8217;t the cause.  This happened in the Liberal Epicenter of the country&#8230;  nice work Califorina&#8230;  real nice&#8230;</p>
<p>And people wonder why I carry whenever legal&#8230;  Because there is no telling when something bad could happen and I&#8217;m not counting on being &#8216;protected&#8217; by the police&#8230;  </p>
<p>Just because CA is burning doesn&#8217;t mean the rest of the country is.  Some people still take pride in raising their children correctly, as well as protecting them from harm.</p>
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